Battlezone:quanchi112 vs nverbeenwthagirl

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nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok since nverbeenwthagirl has brought up the Superman Batman angle i will fully explain what happened prior to Darkseids cheapshot.
These scans right here demonstrate Batmans brilliant thinking when pitted against Darkseid and shows that he can be out thought and even on his own planet against a few characters with a whole planet backing him up. The goal here was to bring back Supergirl home alive and safe. I think they accomplished their goal here.
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What happens next we later found out was another ploy basically by Batman and Darkseid baiting Darkseid into attacking Superman here. Basically he was out thought twice in this overall story and in these scans beaten down physically as well. He lost all across the board here and this also further demonstrated that Darkseid can and has been beaten physically. Also note that Darkseid wasnt the 400 foot monster that nver describes him as.
At the beginning of this fight Darkseid comes out of nowhere. No warning just a cheapshot to start this fight.
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Now the fight is personal so to speak. Darkseid is prepared to boomtube away but Superman doesnt let him just leave the battlefield.
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I also want the judges here to pay attention to this crucial point here. We have just seen Darkseid and Superman now get put into the Sourcewall by one another. Superman took Darkseid's beaten body across the known universe and accomplished it. After Superman saved Darkseid and pulled him from the wall Darkseid just seized the opportunity to strike on an unsuspecting Superman who was right next to the Sourcewall. Note the differences here please.

I would like for everyone to pay attention to what quan is trying to say. He's Trying to say that DS allowed Superman to take him across the universe. If you look at the scans, DS is injured from his own OB. Then when he recups, He says enough and breaks Superman's hold. By then they are damn near the surface of the sun or a sun or where ever they are. SO DS is injured and Superman is Getting a nice sun amp. We already know that the source wall did the rest of the work. this victory for Superman is thus rendered INVALID.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I see a pattern that you are seeing. I dont see any of the being relevant to a forum battle. This isn't who's the cooler character Quan. This is who can kick who's ass when handed a challenge.

This is relevant. I showed how Thanos and Darkseid both respond to more powerful characters than themselves. Thanos fought while Darkseid cowered in a sense. He was dismissed rather easily whereas Tyrant gave Thanos credit into being more than these others were. I also showed what Tyrant is capable of. He caused the mighty Galactus to shriek out in pain. So a loss to this character isnt so bad when you take a look at his overall power level. He is up there. Darkseid didnt even attempt to fight his father. He was humiliated as Desaad sensed and enjoyed his fear.

Thanos and Darkseid are not all powerful here and we must take a look at how they react when facing an extremely powerful opponent. My point has been made and the judges will decide how relevant this is.

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is relevant. I showed how Thanos and Darkseid both respond to more powerful characters than themselves. Thanos fought while Darkseid cowered in a sense. He was dismissed rather easily whereas Tyrant gave Thanos credit into being more than these others were. I also showed what Tyrant is capable of. He caused the mighty Galactus to shriek out in pain. So a loss to this character isnt so bad when you take a look at his overall power level. He is up there. Darkseid didnt even attempt to fight his father. He was humiliated as Desaad sensed and enjoyed his fear.
Thanos and Darkseid are not all powerful here and we must take a look at how they react when facing an extremely powerful opponent. My point has been made and the judges will decide how relevant this is.

If you want to show how DS reacts to an extremely powerful opponent, then make note that DS struck out at the Spectre without flinching. Face to Face with the wrath of God. Thanos faced tyrant who used a lot of prep to beat Galactus. Let us also note that DS would respond Differently to Thanos than he would to Yuga. DS is after all more powerful than Thanos by a Good margin. As I'm about to demonstrate with authority.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So you want to bring up important roles in saving the universe. Ha Ha. Surely you jest. Let me just post the many times DS has contributed to saving ALL of existance.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid91/p962355ae7d748fdb28ddb31ecd53acd4/fa68a8f6.jpg
Above is DS and the power of Kismet Destroying the Multiversal Universal Being known as Imperiex. You would think that Kismet's multiversal power was enough, But no, DS had to expend his Omega's in a join effort. If DS was a weakling, Anyone could have done it. Hell, Some think Superman's Heat vision is equal to the omegas. Surely Superman could have just added his own Heat vision then. 😆 😆 😆
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid88/p9ed9a6ffd5d5e37c2753d80695d888b4/fa8e2bcc.jpg
Here DS uses a conduit to shoot HIS GAZE thru luthor's eyes to Severly injure the Antimonitor. Seems that there is a pattern developing with DS and his so called Weak OE. It seems to be needed to injure Multiversal beings.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid104/p2cc3eb271b26eed5469a2a6e1b4d41e4/f98db9da.jpg
Here DS and highfather manage to break open the source wall. This feat would later have to be done by 5 skyfathers combined into one.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid103/p01fa630d716408e92db0f2108ad9b802/f9aa2085.jpg
So Thanos is Good at prep and Tech? LMAO. The scan above shows DS actually freezing the power of the Godwave. Aren't you the one who tried to claim that Chronos had the power of God in the God wave? Well DS stopped dead in it's tracks the more than Multiversal power of the Godwave. name a feat Thanos has done of similiar nature in aid of the universe. Thanos with The IG might not be able to stop the power of the God wave. DS did it and did it with lil time. So much for DS being a dummy and not being instrumental in the saving of the cosmos.
http://img335.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fa8e2bd7jpgorig3ty.jpg
In the scan above, the uberly smart and near all knowing brainiac states that there is only one being powerful enough to aid them against the Am. Guess who that is? You guessed it right.
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I want to call your attention to how DS contributes to the salvation of The DCU proper. Now only does Dr. Fate Tap DS and HF as well as himself and others to collapse a Universe, They actually fight off the ALE entity. Which is billions of times more powerful than anyone had imagined. I'm going to be using the ALE Entity later on show a very important point. But We all know that It takes a shit load of power to collapse a universe. Actually reality is what is used. In comics realities tend to mean clusters of universes and time lines. You think Thanos has that kind of power to contribute to destroying a reality and fighting of The ALE? And for the record, Orion's AF has been shown to bust galaxies. As for the demon, He had a little bit to do with the feat. LMAO. 😆

Darkseid has contributed in saving the universe. Kismet is more than a force to be reckoned with. With the scan i showed it was Adam Warlock,Thanos, and Professor X helping to save the known universe. It wasnt Thanos and Eternity. Kismet could offer a lot more help than just Adam Warlock and Professor X at their base power levels.

But if you want to show Darkseid getting help from someone as powerful as Kismet ill show Thanos here and his role in defeating the Magus. Note that it was Thanos who had the reality gem and had also been behind the master plan to fool the Magus who was also a universal threat. Magus had five powerful cosmic cubes at his disposal but it wasnt enough power and his true goal was to set in motion a chain of events leading to the infinity gauntlet back in use. In his hands and making him seemingly all powerful.Here are the scans.

Of course you EMPHASIZE Darkseid's role in weakening the Anti Monitor. Luthor was needed specifically for this. He was just as vital to this feat as Darkseid was. Another thing is I have never referred to the Omega Effect as weak. The Omega isnt as powerful as it was say during the times of Crisis on Infinite Earths and around then. Darkseid along with his omega effect was both more powerful back then but have been toned down. The Spectre also severely weakened the Am prior to Ds and Luthor's involvement and please do not leave this crucial detail out.

Darkseid and High Father breaking open the Sourcewall. Both of their power stems from the Source itself. It is yin and yang working together. So of course they are going to be able to tamper with the Sourcewall.

With regards to Braniac's mentioning of Darkseid being powerful enough to aid them against the Am. Thanos has also helped save reality and be a major piece as well as i have just shown you with the Goddess and Magus earlier in this very post.
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nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by quanchi112
Darkseid has contributed in saving the universe. Kismet is more than a force to be reckoned with. With the scan i showed it was Adam Warlock,Thanos, and Professor X helping to save the known universe. It wasnt Thanos and Eternity. Kismet could offer a lot more help than just Adam Warlock and Professor X at their base power levels.
But if you want to show Darkseid getting help from someone as powerful as Kismet ill show Thanos here and his role in defeating the Magus. Note that it was Thanos who had the reality gem and had also been behind the master plan to fool the Magus who was also a universal threat. Magus had five powerful cosmic cubes at his disposal but it wasnt enough power and his true goal was to set in motion a chain of events leading to the infinity gauntlet back in use. In his hands and making him seemingly all powerful.Here are the scans.
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Of course you EMPHASIZE Darkseid's role in weakening the Anti Monitor. Luthor was needed specifically for this. He was just as vital to this feat as Darkseid was. Another thing is I have never referred to the Omega Effect as weak. The Omega isnt as powerful as it was say during the times of Crisis on Infinite Earths and around then. Darkseid along with his omega effect was both more powerful back then but have been toned down. The Spectre also severely weakened the Am prior to Ds and Luthor's involvement and please do not leave this crucial detail out.
Darkseid and High Father breaking open the Sourcewall. Both of their power stems from the Source itself. It is yin and yang working together. So of course they are going to be able to tamper with the Sourcewall.
With regards to Braniac's mentioning of Darkseid being powerful enough to aid them against the Am. Thanos has also helped save reality and be a major piece as well as i have just shown you with the Goddess and Magus earlier in this very post.
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Yes Kismet is severly powerful, and Yet it was DS power that was needed along with hers to accomplish the goal. I have already established that DS has been shown to hurt multiversal beings with his OE. As for the AM, He had absorbed his own universe, which was the equal of everything the multiverse was. He repowered himself then DS channelled his power thru AL. AL was the conduit and changed the form of energy. But the power itself was DS. As for DS and highfather busting the source wall, Yugah couldn't do it. And he is >>>>>>>>>DS and HF when in comes to controlling the power of the source.

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Ok now for some Feats and displays of power:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/Ale016.jpg

Here DS merges his power with the limitless source of nature that Etrigan taps. They actually mange to ensnare and bind the ALE entity.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/Ale017.jpg

Here DS again Shows how fast he can calculate and react.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So you want to bring up important roles in saving the universe. Ha Ha. Surely you jest. Let me just post the many times DS has contributed to saving ALL of existance.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid91/p962355ae7d748fdb28ddb31ecd53acd4/fa68a8f6.jpg
Above is DS and the power of Kismet Destroying the Multiversal Universal Being known as Imperiex. You would think that Kismet's multiversal power was enough, But no, DS had to expend his Omega's in a join effort. If DS was a weakling, Anyone could have done it. Hell, Some think Superman's Heat vision is equal to the omegas. Surely Superman could have just added his own Heat vision then. 😆 😆 😆
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid88/p9ed9a6ffd5d5e37c2753d80695d888b4/fa8e2bcc.jpg
Here DS uses a conduit to shoot HIS GAZE thru luthor's eyes to Severly injure the Antimonitor. Seems that there is a pattern developing with DS and his so called Weak OE. It seems to be needed to injure Multiversal beings.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid104/p2cc3eb271b26eed5469a2a6e1b4d41e4/f98db9da.jpg
Here DS and highfather manage to break open the source wall. This feat would later have to be done by 5 skyfathers combined into one.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid103/p01fa630d716408e92db0f2108ad9b802/f9aa2085.jpg
So Thanos is Good at prep and Tech? LMAO. The scan above shows DS actually freezing the power of the Godwave. Aren't you the one who tried to claim that Chronos had the power of God in the God wave? Well DS stopped dead in it's tracks the more than Multiversal power of the Godwave. name a feat Thanos has done of similiar nature in aid of the universe. Thanos with The IG might not be able to stop the power of the God wave. DS did it and did it with lil time. So much for DS being a dummy and not being instrumental in the saving of the cosmos.
http://img335.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fa8e2bd7jpgorig3ty.jpg
In the scan above, the uberly smart and near all knowing brainiac states that there is only one being powerful enough to aid them against the Am. Guess who that is? You guessed it right.
http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cinque26gf.jpg
http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cinque36tq.jpg
http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cinque42yu.jpg
I want to call your attention to how DS contributes to the salvation of The DCU proper. Now only does Dr. Fate Tap DS and HF as well as himself and others to collapse a Universe, They actually fight off the ALE entity. Which is billions of times more powerful than anyone had imagined. I'm going to be using the ALE Entity later on show a very important point. But We all know that It takes a shit load of power to collapse a universe. Actually reality is what is used. In comics realities tend to mean clusters of universes and time lines. You think Thanos has that kind of power to contribute to destroying a reality and fighting of The ALE? And for the record, Orion's AF has been shown to bust galaxies. As for the demon, He had a little bit to do with the feat. LMAO. 😆

It does take a crap load of power to destroy reality. Here is Thanos encounter with Hunger. He had previously warned Galactus to shut his new device down but he didnt listen. This is what Galactus actions caused.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Thanos0512.jpg
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Listen carefully to how Thanos describes this interdimensional parasite and what he says he is capable of. He can absorb all of reality. Darkseid had uber help with him against the ALE but Thanos had only a plan and a clueless Galactus at his disposal who had caused this whole unneeded affair.

Watch as Thanos calmly deals with and defeats this being who is capable of absorbing ALL of REALITY.

This blast was so powerful it severely injured the mighty Galactus here. Thanos defeated the Hunger basically on his own while Darkseid had equal help. Thanos was the reason the Hunger was defeated. Thanos and Thanos alone.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Ok I'm skipping ahead abit cuz I gotta get ready to go to church, I'll come back to some of my other points later, But I want to call to attention a major ability that DS has that Eludes Thanos, and shows that Thanos is weak against It.
http://img51.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/stone.jpg
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The above shows pre-ressurection Thanos being turned to stone.
Now I'm sure you are wondering why I'm using pre ressurection Thanos. It's simple. Warlock is far the inferior of DS own Reality altering powers and so even tho Thanos was in a weaker form, it's showing that he is able to be transmuted. DS who is far Superior to Warlock should have no trouble turning Thanos into kibbles and bits should he choose. Think not? Let's look at how powerful DS own reality altering powers are.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Darkseid/darkseidmanipulation.jpg
DS is manipulating living beings across the Universe like they are chess pieces. We've only seen power like that when Batmite and Mxy where playing around. Talk about power.
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Take a look at each of these scans and look with the eye of someone who notices everything about the new gods. The first scan clearly shows DS avatar in human form creating new realities daily that keep mr. miracle trapped. He's creating living universes for mr. miracle to be trapped in.
Now Some say it was a mental thing. Impossible. For It says that it's the trap that moves with you. He's not trapped in his mind. He would know that. If you look at the scan, the OMEGA IS the REALITIES that he's being trapped within.
On top of all of this, the entire earth and all of it's people, and the black hole that the story took place in, where created and sustained by the DS avatar Dark Side. It should also be noted that DS managed to warp the Death avatar the black racer and even depower HighFather.
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Here he just freaking talks and turns a DAXAMITE into Ash. Note that Daxamites have all the same powers and durability as Superman.
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And for the record, I found a scan showing beings superior to the Infinity Man. DS erased an entire pantheon of Zombie Old Gods. And if you think they were weak, the leader was able to resist the OE the first time around and DS was impressed by his power. Then He zapped him again and he was gone.

Ok let me begin to dissect your flawed logic here. For one you compare Adam Warlock's reality altering powers against Darkseid's correct? This was Adam Warlock's spirit so it surely was different altogether than Warlock in the flesh. Thanos had already defeated him and his spirit came back and did this. We cannot factor in the difference between what Warlock is capable of in human form in comparison to his ghost form. If he could have done this in human form he would just have done it. He couldnt and only his ghost could accomplish this.

Here is a scan after his resurrection where Thanos has been upgraded immensely so this is a moot point.

Reality like all other outside influences has a minimal effect on me. Thanos always stays true to himself.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/ThanosQuest1-10.jpg

Again no one has transmuted Thanos into anything after his first death. The reason is because they cant. Thanos can deal with reality warping as this scan has proved.

I believe he trapped Mr. Miracle in his mind. This makes sense to me as the mind can be the ultimate trap that you cant escape from.

Darkseid attacked their minds as He hasnt used this power since this event. He defeated Orion with a hand gesture and didnt reality warp him or attack his mind. He didnt implement this strategy against Orion then.

All daxamites arent capable of what Superman is capable of. You yourself have said that Superman and him only in DC is capable of skyfather feats. Superman has and will always stand out as the greatest of the kryptonians.

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Here DS laughs at the master blaster. A weapon capable of killing any lifeform.

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Here DS is shown again using his uber reality manipulating powers in the form of his famous chess board, ( In the same fashion that mxy and joker used) to recreate parasite from his memories of the Precrisis days.

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If you think Thanos has the goods to put DS down then gander at the above of DS true Durability. He takes an aspect of the ALE pointblank, which overloads his machine that has other power of the ALE collected. Earlier in the same story, one such aspects of the ALE had shattered a solar System.

Speaking of power that it takes to collapse reality, I doubt Thanos is powerful enough to cause this to happen if he were removed from reality:
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DS can travel Thru time:
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Darkseid/darkseidtimetravel.jpg

DS has power over life and Death:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid100/p9406aa7df57f1a8e09bb8041e1788b38/f9e3ae19.jpg
Brings Bernadeth back to life

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Brings Orion back to life, right after he kills him

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Ressurects Literally hundreds or thousands of Parademons who had been slain in battle with the amazons simply by raising his hand. Has Thanos ever shown such mastery over the forces of Life and death and the soul? I think not.

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by quanchi112
It does take a crap load of power to destroy reality. Here is Thanos encounter with Hunger. He had previously warned Galactus to shut his new device down but he didnt listen. This is what Galactus actions caused.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Thanos0512.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Thanos0513.jpg
Listen carefully to how Thanos describes this interdimensional parasite and what he says he is capable of. He can absorb all of reality. Darkseid had uber help with him against the ALE but Thanos had only a plan and a clueless Galactus at his disposal who had caused this whole unneeded affair.
Watch as Thanos calmly deals with and defeats this being who is capable of absorbing ALL of REALITY.
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This blast was so powerful it severely injured the mighty Galactus here. Thanos defeated the Hunger basically on his own while Darkseid had equal help. Thanos was the reason the Hunger was defeated. Thanos and Thanos alone.

Although Thanos planning was impressive. It doesn't show him defeating this being on his own. And the being itself doesn't look to be that impressive. Yes Thanos is a master strategist. No, He didn't defeat nor did he stand up to this being with any fraction of his own power.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Now I have to bring up hand to hand. DS doesn't really need to fight Thanos in hand to hand, and in a prolonged hand to hand fight he would lose 6-7/10. But here I shall prove that DS doesn't have to make it a prolonged fight if he fights like he's been shown is within his ability. The vast majority of his history he's pwned superman lvl beings in the form of daxamites, Superman more times than Superman has beat him, wonder woman, orion, lightray, metron, ect.
But let's just say that Thanos tries to take the fight to DS physically becuz He's heard about the Being Superman being able to do the same.
Let's look and see What DS has and Superman also has that Thanos doesn't. Speed. Super Speed and Reaction Times. DS also has uber Martial Arts skills and agility. Thanos hasn't shown any Martial arts skill or Agility on par with DS. Just look at these speed, skill, and agility feats:
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Note that Superman was blitzing DS and he Got bitched.
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In this scan, DS shows Utter Speed and Fighting Skill as he trashes the amped up Batman. Batman had a special Battle suit on and a mother box, and DS completely overwhelmed the uberly skilled batman And he's using superspeed. Note the blur in the first panel.
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Note in the above scans, DS and Orion are fighting manoymano in a martial arts fight of equal footing. Orion is using superspeed as well as skills and he still wouldn't have won. It was later revieled that DS threw the right.
Ok so I've shown DS blitzting or repelling a blitz by superman. So now what we have to do is play out the averages. Let's I've already posted a many a blitz by superman and others who have gotten pimp smacked. now let's look at one of the sad moments in DC history. Look at how this fight was going:
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Continued in next post.

Darkseid losing to Superman hurts his case. His durability is what cost him the fight we have seen thus far. If Darkseid cant end the fight quickly he tends to lose steam and fast. Remember the Doomsday fight. It was a massacre. Thanos could also defeat Superman,Wonderwoman,Lightray,Metron so this doesnt prove anything. I remain confident that Thanos doesnt lose Superman outside a plot device. Thanos hasnt lost to a Superman level being from Marvel and that is what we have to go on.Ds does have the majority against supes but not a perfect record,not even close. In the loss we saw thus far he was literally pummeled into submission.

the Silver Surfer has speed,reaction times and Thanos has defeated him everytime the they have fought. Thanos doesnt lose to beings that are faster than him. Show me where someone with Ds speed has beaten Thanos and it was because of speed. Dont claim it prove it. The difference here is Thanos hasnt lost to a being as fast as Darkseid because of his speed but Darkseid has lost to Superman. One has happened and more than once and one is your theory and your theory alone. I will say again prove someone with Ds speed can defeat Thanos because of his speed!

Ok you are bringing up the Orion thrown fight here. For one this is an isolated incident. Darkseid hasnt shown this type of ability before to pull him out of a pickle. Thanos trained Gamora and made her arguably the deadliest woman in the universe. For Thanos to train someone in this way one could only assume he knows how to defend himself against this if need be, he is Thanos and wouldnt be prepared against something like this. With his track record this is something he just didnt oversee. If you think Thanos can be beaten by martial arts when is he is in an actual fight.

I cannot believe you are using Batman here. Batman with this amp did nothing special to warrant him being an actual threat to Superman let alone someone like Thanos or Darkseid.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok let me begin to dissect your flawed logic here. For one you compare Adam Warlock's reality altering powers against Darkseid's correct? This was Adam Warlock's spirit so it surely was different altogether than Warlock in the flesh. Thanos had already defeated him and his spirit came back and did this. We cannot factor in the difference between what Warlock is capable of in human form in comparison to his ghost form. If he could have done this in human form he would just have done it. He couldnt and only his ghost could accomplish this.
Here is a scan after his resurrection where Thanos has been upgraded immensely so this is a moot point.
Reality like all other outside influences has a minimal effect on me. Thanos always stays true to himself.
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Again no one has transmuted Thanos into anything after his first death. The reason is because they cant. Thanos can deal with reality warping as this scan has proved.
I believe he trapped Mr. Miracle in his mind. This makes sense to me as the mind can be the ultimate trap that you cant escape from.
Darkseid attacked their minds as He hasnt used this power since this event. He defeated Orion with a hand gesture and didnt reality warp him or attack his mind. He didnt implement this strategy against Orion then.
All daxamites arent capable of what Superman is capable of. You yourself have said that Superman and him only in DC is capable of skyfather feats. Superman has and will always stand out as the greatest of the kryptonians.

Now the fun begins quan. First of all, Mr. Miracle himself says that they are alternate Realities. And We know DS can create alternate realities. Guess where the story is taking place? In a black hole, on a planet, with billions of people, all created by Darkside. DS also has used his reality maniplulation powers in Firestorm, which is why I argued to have everything until the end included. He reached right into the RED or Firestorm matrix and pulled the professor out. That is a reality manip feat of the highest order.

Now, We get to superman. You like to use Superman to bring down DS. Yet every other being that is in Superman's class gets bitched By DS. Even Superman himself has far more embarrassing moments against DS than DS has with Superman. Superman gets outright owned, While DS has to have plot devices or simple stupid writers to get pwned. I have posted far too many scans of Superman getting his ass handed to him for you to ignore it.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Now, I'm sure DS durability will be brought into question. I want to bring to everyone's the attention the overwhelming majority of durability feats DS has. And That I can only think of two instances where his durability was comprimised without him self injuring. One is when Doomsday was uber powerful and had just been KO'd by DS and powered up with his energy. And the other is when he cried out saying he was blinded by superman. As I can accept the Doomsday one since Technically DS got a KMC win with a KO, Then we are left with the Superman PIS fest. I will now undermind any attempt to question Just how Durable DS is. Since his durability would come into play should he be hit by one of Thanos's mighty blast or a punch.
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Here Lobo, the guy who's been able to beat the JLA at times, and rock superman hurts his hand on DS face
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Here Dr. Fate, you know the guy who is DC's resident mage supreme, is giving DS his mighties blast and it's laughed off. Then DS uses hand beams and pwns fate.
More to come on DS durability.
Edit: I forgot to include this scan in DS speed and reaction section. Check it out:
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I will go into greater detail later addressing Darkseid's durability and his lack thereof. Ok let me say that Ds wouldnt get a win over Doomsday with a ko as all he really did was bury him under rubble. He wasnt dead and that is why he recovered and came back at the overconfident Ds so quickly. If you have a scan of Doomsday getting killed and resurrecting himself immediately like here you may have a point but if you dont then you have nothing. Doomsday was abeing powerful enough to survive the OE just like Thanos. And we all saw what quick work he made of Ds when he got his hands on him. Ds didnt land another blow. Not one. Durability in this fight. 😆

Lobo hurt his hands on Ds face, Superman's fists havent. Doomsday's fists felt fine as well. In the Superman loss that we saw Ds face got rocked.

Wasnt this Desaad posing as Darkseid because if you maintain that it was the real Ds I have a scan in store for you. Anyways this Dr. Fate was nothing in terms of expereince and power as previous ones. This feat stands unimpressive even if you contend it was the real Ds. I await your answer on this.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
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Here we have the power of Violet, Superboy, and the awesomely powerful Kid Quantum and uber powerful Livewire/Element Lad combo go to work on DS. They had to actually work to push him back, and that was when they caught him by surprise. When he gets thru the portal we see not a scratch on him.
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Now in the scans above mantis had absorbed the FULL power of a GL ring. He blasted DS with everything he had and DS actually called the powers pathetic. Imagine that, the full brunt of a GL ring was pathetic to him. Some would try to use the Raker battle as a low showing for DS. I use this as example of why it's true that DS truly did let raker live. He is DS and he always serves his own means.

Ok let me first again go back to Foundations here.

All these three scans show is that they pushed Ds back without him doing anything at all to significantly damage any of the Legion that drove him back. They didnt want to injure him but only wanted him back to his proper place and proper time. It wasnt their goal to him. What injuries did you see on the Legion members that drove him back?

The second scan was Darkseid defeating someone who was under Darkseid. He defeated someone who had received a power up but was given his true power in the first place by Darkseid himself. He was never more powerful than Darkseid. So him defeating on of his elite here does not stand out in the slightest.

Oh with raker I will definitely clear things up later. You are not getting off that easy.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
I will go into greater detail later addressing Darkseid's durability and his lack thereof. Ok let me say that Ds wouldnt get a win over Doomsday with a ko as all he really did was bury him under rubble. He wasnt dead and that is why he recovered and came back at the overconfident Ds so quickly. If you have a scan of Doomsday getting killed and resurrecting himself immediately like here you may have a point but if you dont then you have nothing. Doomsday was abeing powerful enough to survive the OE just like Thanos. And we all saw what quick work he made of Ds when he got his hands on him. Ds didnt land another blow. Not one. Durability in this fight. 😆
Lobo hurt his hands on Ds face, Superman's fists havent. Doomsday's fists felt fine as well. In the Superman loss that we saw Ds face got rocked.
Wasnt this Desaad posing as Darkseid because if you maintain that it was the real Ds I have a scan in store for you. Anyways this Dr. Fate was nothing in terms of expereince and power as previous ones. This feat stands unimpressive even if you contend it was the real Ds. I await your answer on this.

I've already pwned you on DS durability. Check out my scan showing him taking a blast from the ALE at point blank range. Also, Doomsday was down for the count and DS had time for a monologue. That means he was down. We also know that Doomsday is an uber being with static strength. I do not count it as a low feat that DS got beat up from behind. As a matter of fact, I've already thrown suspicion on the nentire story becuz DD didnt' boom tube to new genesis. there for he should have been an ant to the new Gods. The story is unreliabel and doesn't hold credit due to the author having many oversites. As for Superman, we've already talked about him. He has ONE I repeat ONE solid win over DS. And given the forum rules, that would be PIS.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok let me first again go back to Foundations here.
All these three scans show is that they pushed Ds back without him doing anything at all to significantly damage any of the Legion that drove him back. They didnt want to injure him but only wanted him back to his proper place and proper time. It wasnt their goal to him. What injuries did you see on the Legion members that drove him back?
The second scan was Darkseid defeating someone who was under Darkseid. He defeated someone who had received a power up but was given his true power in the first place by Darkseid himself. He was never more powerful than Darkseid. So him defeating on of his elite here does not stand out in the slightest.
Oh with raker I will definitely clear things up later. You are not getting off that easy.
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You miss the point. All the legion could do was drive back the DS. With all that power, DS sustained no injuries. And mantis wasn't using his power against DS. He was using the FULL power of a GL Ring. Nice try tho.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You miss the point. All the legion could do was drive back the DS. With all that power, DS sustained no injuries. And mantis wasn't using his power against DS. He was using the FULL power of a GL Ring. Nice try tho.

No you missed the point. They DIDNT want to injure Darkseid and he didnt injure them in return. No one was injured. So while ds wanted to injure these beings for driving him back to where he came from the Legion just wanted him back. Ds wanted to injure them and failed while the Legion wanted him through the portal. They succeeded while Darkseid failed.

Also note nver that they went back in time to save the younger ds from being destroyed by the timestream.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Darkseid losing to Superman hurts his case. His durability is what cost him the fight we have seen thus far. If Darkseid cant end the fight quickly he tends to lose steam and fast. Remember the Doomsday fight. It was a massacre. Thanos could also defeat Superman,Wonderwoman,Lightray,Metron so this doesnt prove anything. I remain confident that Thanos doesnt lose Superman outside a plot device. Thanos hasnt lost to a Superman level being from Marvel and that is what we have to go on.Ds does have the majority against supes but not a perfect record,not even close. In the loss we saw thus far he was literally pummeled into submission.

First of all, I've already shown that Superman can accomplish skyfather lvl feats. You yourself just said that Superman can accomplish what even daxamites cannot. And Monel has some uber feats of his own. We also know that Doomsday is a beast. He also blind sided DS from behind, After he recieved a nice amp via the omega beams.

Originally posted by quanchi112

the Silver Surfer has speed,reaction times and Thanos has defeated him everytime the they have fought. Thanos doesnt lose to beings that are faster than him. Show me where someone with Ds speed has beaten Thanos and it was because of speed. Dont claim it prove it. The difference here is Thanos hasnt lost to a being as fast as Darkseid because of his speed but Darkseid has lost to Superman. One has happened and more than once and one is your theory and your theory alone. I will say again prove someone with Ds speed can defeat Thanos because of his speed!

The silver surfer never uses his speed in a one on one as does Superman or even DS for that matter. The point is moot. We have almost no examples of surfer doing any kind of tacticle speed blitzing. I also want you to realize that DS is more powerful than anyone that Thanos has faced who would use Superspeed. It's not that Thanos can't take speed alone. We know he can. But show me Thanos taking The speed of DS with the POWER and STRENGTH of DS.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Ok you are bringing up the Orion thrown fight here. For one this is an isolated incident. Darkseid hasnt shown this type of ability before to pull him out of a pickle. Thanos trained Gamora and made her arguably the deadliest woman in the universe. For Thanos to train someone in this way one could only assume he knows how to defend himself against this if need be, he is Thanos and wouldnt be prepared against something like this. With his track record this is something he just didnt oversee. If you think Thanos can be beaten by martial arts when is he is in an actual fight.

One reason DS doesn't use those skills is becuz he doesn't have to. He has a planet full of warriors. He's also said out of his own mouth that he let's others fight becuz he likes to corrupt them. You also miss the point about Gamora, she was evading his attacks and drew blood. DS is easily faster than her, and was shown using uber agility. Now DS is also far stronger than Gamora. So one can't just easily look over the fact that DS can replicate Gamora's hand to hand and with greater effect becuz he's FASTER AND STRONGER.

Originally posted by quanchi112

I cannot believe you are using Batman here. Batman with this amp did nothing special to warrant him being an actual threat to Superman let alone someone like Thanos or Darkseid.

You miss the point. Batman had a special suit that had allowed him to be as effective on the mission team as everyone else. He was in the company of Barda, Superman, and Wonder Woman. Up until that point, He had sustained not an injury. Batman has evaded Superman's blows before. And yet amped with a special suit, And a MOTHER BOX, he got owned in hand to hand. DS bitched him with speed and skill.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Now the fun begins quan. First of all, Mr. Miracle himself says that they are alternate Realities. And We know DS can create alternate realities. Guess where the story is taking place? In a black hole, on a planet, with billions of people, all created by Darkside. DS also has used his reality maniplulation powers in Firestorm, which is why I argued to have everything until the end included. He reached right into the RED or Firestorm matrix and pulled the professor out. That is a reality manip feat of the highest order.
Now, We get to superman. You like to use Superman to bring down DS. Yet every other being that is in Superman's class gets bitched By DS. Even Superman himself has far more embarrassing moments against DS than DS has with Superman. Superman gets outright owned, While DS has to have plot devices or simple stupid writers to get pwned. I have posted far too many scans of Superman getting his ass handed to him for you to ignore it.

I have already shown you the scan of Thanos being able to resist reality warping.

Superman has defeated darkseid by plot devices but also without one. Calling a writer stupid isnt a valid point. We can only go on what each character has done through canon panel evidence. Your personal feelings about something that has happpened over and over again means nothing here.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok let me first again go back to Foundations here.
All these three scans show is that they pushed Ds back without him doing anything at all to significantly damage any of the Legion that drove him back. They didnt want to injure him but only wanted him back to his proper place and proper time. It wasnt their goal to him. What injuries did you see on the Legion members that drove him back?
The second scan was Darkseid defeating someone who was under Darkseid. He defeated someone who had received a power up but was given his true power in the first place by Darkseid himself. He was never more powerful than Darkseid. So him defeating on of his elite here does not stand out in the slightest.
Oh with raker I will definitely clear things up later. You are not getting off that easy.
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You'd be wise to try and prove Thanos ability to beat DS. So far, Thanos is looking like he's going to get his ass kicked. And I haven't even begun to list the many ways DS can do it and Thanos can do NOTHING ABOUT IT. I'll save that for my summation. 😆 😆 😆