Originally posted by quanchi112
Now the second part of this post.This features Darkseid and his battle with the green lantern known as Raker.
The scans.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/GreenLanternv380-PageGiant3pg55.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/GreenLanternv380-PageGiant3pg56.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/GreenLanternv380-PageGiant3pg57.jpgOk lets make note of the differences in these two fights. Ok in the Thanos battle he was there to bring Thor to his father Odin and was attacked without provocation. Now in contrast we have the Darkseid battle. There was a war going on against green lanterns. Meaning they were both there to kill the other.
Thanos took a lot of more punishment than Darkseid took in his fight. Thanos stood under his own power. Also note that Odin was shocked during the fight that Thanos did in fact live. Meaning he was intending on killing him. He thought he did once, he was wrong and underestimated the titan as nverbeenwthagirl is doing in this very debate.
Darkseid was stabbed and taken up into the air only to be rained down on the ground after his green lantern blocked his omega beams from even being brought into play here. He had a shovel to his face and the Guardians showed up and offered a truce.
Again I am using scans to back up my theories. Ds didnt land one blow in. He was on his back and did nothing of the sort to suggest he would have won this fight. Ds didnt lose just as Thanos because both fights ended without an actual winner.
Odin is much greater than Raker and Thanos stood under his own power while a third party stopped the fight while Ds has failed to even mount an offensive strike against Raker before the third party stopped this battle.
Here's a hint. DS had destroyed his ring. 😛
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlI cant figure out what fight you are looking at here. How can you say that Raker was desperate when failed to even land a blow. Really how can you make the claim Ds had several powerups since then but disregard this when addressing Adam's ghost turning Thanos into stone. Sounds like a double standard to me. Thanos was upgraded as well. This green lantern humbled Ds plain and simple. A green lantern humbles ds. we will let the judges decide how much weight these scans hold.
NO where in thier battle is DS injured at all in the slightest. Also, Quan you seem to forget that DS has had several power ups since then via killing and absorbing pantheon's of Gods. DS had a shovel in the face and that means what? that Raker was desperate. Did the shovel actually harm DS? No.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I cant figure out what fight you are looking at here. How can you say that Raker was desperate when failed to even land a blow. Really how can you make the claim Ds had several powerups since then but disregard this when addressing Adam's ghost turning Thanos into stone. Sounds like a double standard to me. This green lantern humbled Ds plain and simple. A green lantern humbles ds. we will let the judges decide how much weight these scans hold.
Actually You missed what I was saying about thanos and his transformation. At a weaker stage in his career, warlock, a weaker being was able to transmute him.
Darksied is much more powerful than Warlock and has shown far greater reality manip. So this is what I was trying to say.
Warlock's Reality Manip>Weaker Thanos
Darksieds Reality Manip>>>>>>>>>>Warlock
Current Thanos>>Warlocks Reality Manip
Darkseid's Reality Manip>>>Current Thanos
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlYes he destroyed his ring the first time the met. Raker didnt know who he was or how powerful he was. He proved that he didnt make that same mistake the second time they met, now did he? The second meeting of these two beings was as different as night is to day. 😛
NO where in thier battle is DS injured at all in the slightest. Also, Quan you seem to forget that DS has had several power ups since then via killing and absorbing pantheon's of Gods. DS had a shovel in the face and that means what? that Raker was desperate. Did the shovel actually harm DS? No. Oh one more thing Quan, why exactly was Raker using a shovel and other weapons in the first place? I know the answer, do you. 🙂Here's a hint. DS had destroyed his ring. 😛
Originally posted by quanchi112
One time. Ill prove you wrong there as we have already seen Superman beat Ds once. That is for later.
You haven't shown us Superman beating DS once under his own merit yet. I'm sure you will show apok now. that is the one time i'm referring to. I've already shattered any hope you have of trying to use any other "victories" of superman. And since I've shown that superman has better feats than Thanos, It doesn't really matter does it?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes he destroyed his ring the first time the met. Raker didnt know who he was or how powerful he was. He proved that he didnt make that same mistake the second time they met, now did he? The second meeting of these two beings was as different as night is to day. 😛
And yet, The guardians didn't want a war with DS and we also know that DS threw that fight becuz he wanted to spare Raker for his own means. Oh you didn't know that did you? I'm betting you did. 😕
Originally posted by quanchi112
The point is this shows you how very impressive Thanos durability is. Raker a being who would be bitchslapped by Thanos as he isnt even superior to the Silver Surfer. Yet he managed to rock Ds without him countering one thing he did. I also 100 percent believe that Odin>>Darkseid. No doubt in my mind. We arent here to debate that though. Again all skyfathers are not equal.I responded to why i think that Odin wasnt holding back in my second parter to my original post here.
Show me Odin creating some alternate realities, Or Collapsing a fifth of a reality, or Holding back half of a megaversal omniversal destructible being like the ALE. Or hurting the LT. Or Huring abraxas even with aid. Odin and all the other skyfather couldn't even hurt the celestial. And that was with all thier power. enough to throw the planet out of obrit. LMAO. 😆 😆 😆
DS on the other hand, has Reality creating feats, Reality Altering Feats, Has faced Serveral multiversal, megaversal, and even an omniversal being before. He's also stalemated Highfather. He is as premier a skyfather as you can get. Nuff said. Thanos faces marvel's premier skyfather who was basically toying with him. And you realize that Odin beat surtur. Surtur>>>>>>>Thanos. As I said before, Odin was holding back. It's very obvious as he aske Thanos if he would yeild. For goodness sake they were tearing up his house!!
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlAt weaker time in Ds career a green lantern was able to temporarily best him.
Actually You missed what I was saying about thanos and his transformation. At a weaker stage in his career, warlock, a weaker being was able to transmute him.Darksied is much more powerful than Warlock and has shown far greater reality manip. So this is what I was trying to say.
Warlock's Reality Manip>Weaker Thanos
Darksieds Reality Manip>>>>>>>>>>Warlock
Current Thanos>>Warlocks Reality Manip
Darkseid's Reality Manip>>>Current Thanos
Again I have already stated my opinion on this matter. This hasnt happened to Thanos yet after his resurrection. So you assuming this could happen to him after he had been immensely powered up is speculation. So there goes you whole greater than or less than theory you had going on.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlSuperman doesnt have better feats than Thanos under his normal power. Again no one on Superman's level has beaten Thanos. Plain and simple.
You haven't shown us Superman beating DS once under his own merit yet. I'm sure you will show apok now. that is the one time i'm referring to. I've already shattered any hope you have of trying to use any other "victories" of superman. And since I've shown that superman has better feats than Thanos, It doesn't really matter does it?
Originally posted by quanchi112
At weaker time in Ds career a green lantern was able to temporarily best him.Again I have already stated my opinion on this matter. This hasnt happened to Thanos yet after his resurrection. So you assuming this could happen to him after he had been immensely powered up is speculation. So there goes you whole greater than or less than thoery you had going on.
I didn't see any green lantern injure DS or best him? Did you? Show me please DS injured or bested. 😆 😆 😆
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlShow the scan where Ds states that he personally lost the fight to Raker. Ds cant see into the future and didnt know the Guardians were going to show up when they did. Again please provide proof to back up your claim that Ds intentionally let him shoot him and drive him into the ground.
And yet, The guardians didn't want a war with DS and we also know that DS threw that fight becuz he wanted to spare Raker for his own means. Oh you didn't know that did you? I'm betting you did. 😕
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlSo Ds wasnt injured. And the shot didnt matter right. And him driving him into the ground felt good as well.
I didn't see any green lantern injure DS or best him? Did you? Show me please DS injured or bested. 😆 😆 😆
How did Ds injure raker here? Where is that scan that confimrs Ds saying that he threw the fight. Why wouldnt he jus beat him down and take him in as a prisoner. Would he rather fool him and let him think he was winning knowing full well the key moment when the gurdians were going to show up and stop the fight.
I also said temporarily as he did. Ds didnt land one blow. Not one.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Show the scan where Ds states that he personally lost the fight to Raker. Ds cant see into the future and didnt know the Guardians were going to show up when they did. Again please provide proof to back up your claim that Ds intentionally let him shoot him and drive him into the ground.
pwned. DS totally says to Raker that he let him live. For his own purposes.
Oh and just to make sure it stings so good
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lantern12bl.jpg
Originally posted by quanchi112
Is this uber Superman the one who fights Darkseid. I did not know that he changed and became uber when he meet Ds head on.
I've already shown superman being handled By DS many times. And with great ease. I've already shown DS beating other beings who operate around Superman's normal power lvls. I've already shown DS harming himself and giving Superman time for a sun amp. What more do you want? I've also shown that No other top tier in the history of comics has performed the feats that superman has. I've also given proof that Superman's durability may be better than Thanos's. Superman is thus rendered null and void. Take your pick. To date he only has one victory over DS and that would be considered PIS by Forum standards. Or we can look at it as another one of Superman's many uber feats since he can do skyfather lvl feats at the drop of a dime.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlLet me clear this up for you and for all on here. judges note that Ds was referring to after the war was over and when Raker was forsaken by the guardians. He didnt let him live in the actual battle. He allowed him to live afterwards. How is Raker going to defeat Ds and all his troops by himself. I know the scan wouldnt say tha he let him live and survive their battle but meant that he allowed him to survive afterwards as he was held captive on this hellish world where Ds had all the power.
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lantern7uj.jpgpwned. DS totally says to Raker that he let him live. For his own purposes.
Oh and just to make sure it stings so good
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lantern12bl.jpg
Pwned.
😛
Originally posted by quanchi112
Let me clear this up for you and for all on here. judges note that Ds was referring to after the war was over and when Raker was forsaken by the guardians. He didnt let him live in the actual battle. He allowed him to live afterwards. How is Raker going to defeat Ds and all his troops by himself. I know the scan wouldnt say tha he let him live and survive their battle but meant that he allowed him to survive afterwards as he was held captive on this hellish world where Ds had all the power.Pwned.
😛
UM, Quan, The gaurdians didn't want to fight DS. So what in the world makes you think Raker stood any chance? Especially since He never hurt DS. But DS had hurt him and destroyed his ring. DS let Raker live and he's talking about thier previous encounters as well as the current situation. Do you note how DS is basically talking trash about the guardians and thier green lanterns and how he just kills them. LOL @you. Obviously he did spare Raker for just what had transpired. Read the scans. You sir haven't proven that any herald lvl beings can defeat DS outside of some clause, a superman jobber aura that allows him to knock over multiversal beings, or DS injuring himself. We already see that DS let raker lives and laughs at the guardians for such an attempt. I'd wager you need to focus on beings more powerful. Cuz The herald lvlers aren't looking too good.
