Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm not arguing that he's not RESISTANT, just that he's completely immune. It's been a while since I checked out the issue in detail, but I'm pretty sure that Radiant's blast had NO effect on Doomsday what so ever, and that's what immunity is.
I'm saying that the concussive force of the blast has nothing to do with how resistant DD is to energy going by the example you brought up.
Originally posted by Estacado
In the same issue he got pushed back by heat vision again......
Originally posted by Avlon
I'm saying that the concussive force of the blast has nothing to do with how resistant DD is to energy going by the example you brought up.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Isn't concussive force a form of energy? If DD is COMPLETELY immune to ALL forms of energy, then he shouldn't be effected by concussive force either. For that matter, it shouldn't be possible to put him down physically either, because things like punches are actually just delivering focused kinetic energy to do damage...
So we should disregard weight/balance and gravity in order to say that concussive force is equal to heat energy?
And can concussive force is in the EM spectrum?
Originally posted by Avlon
So we should disregard weight/balance and gravity in order to say that concussive force is equal to heat energy?And can concussive force is in the EM spectrum?
Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm not trying to disregard anything, I'm pointing out that unlike the Radiant(who's energy DD was truly immune to) Supes was still able to affect DD with an energy blast. I'm not just basing it on DD's showings against Supes, I'm basing it off the comparison. After DD came back from his defeat at the hands of Radiant, Radiant's energy blast didn't do a damn thing to him(thus indicating that he was immune to RADIANT'S energy) while Supes HV DID do something(thus indicating that he wasn't immune tp HV).
Originally posted by Galan007
I'm pretty sure DD only evolves if said attack(s) harm him in some way.Thus,
Even though HV was pushing DD back, if it was not physically harming him, there would be no need to adapt.
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The radiant example would have nothing to do with the original debate.
Originally posted by Galan007
I'm pretty sure DD only evolves if said attack(s) harm him in some way.Thus,
Even though HV was pushing DD back, if it was not physically harming him, there would be no need to adapt.
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Originally posted by darthgooberFor DD to be immune to all types of energy, he would have had to experience, [and subsequently have been harmed/killed by], all types of energy.
My whole point has been that DD isn't immune to all energy, which is the claim that was originally made for him. If DD isn't adapted to HV, then he obviously isn't immune to ALL energy types.
And we simply can't make this assumption, because we have only seen him go up against a handful of differing energy types.. So you are correct where that's concerned, imo...
Regarding Superman's HV though,
DD did block it with one hand, like it was nothing -- So it leads me to believe that he is 'immune' to it in some fashion.
Originally posted by Galan007
For DD to be immune to all types of energy, he would have had to experience, [and subsequently have been harmed/killed by], all types of energy.And we simply can't make this assumption, because we have only seen him go up against a handful of differing energy types.. So you are correct where that's concerned, imo...
Originally posted by Galan007
Regarding Superman's HV though,DD did block it with one hand, like it was nothing -- So it leads me to believe that he is 'immune' to it in some fashion.
Originally posted by darthgooberCool beans. 👆
😎Oh I haven't said that he's not immune to it NOW, the complete immunity claim was made in regards to DOS DD(who's the version being used in this thread), which is why I pointed out Supes nailing him with HV during the arc. I don't doubt that HV wouldn't work on him anymore unless Supes becomes significantly more powerful.
Originally posted by darthgoober
My whole point has been that DD isn't immune to all energy, which is the claim that was originally made for him. If DD isn't adapted to HV, then he obviously isn't immune to ALL energy types.
I agree that DD isn't immune to all types of energy. He's extremely resistant to it, and highly adaptable...but not completely immune.
Hell, characters that wield energy aren't immune to it.
Radiant unfortunately had the experience of fighting a Doomsday that had evolved thousands of years past him, so DD was already past his level of damage. Superman had evolved twice by that time (once through the Eradicators process of rebirth, and 2nd with the motherbox amp) and HV still was ineffective against him.
Originally posted by Avlon
I agree that DD isn't immune to all types of energy. He's extremely resistant to it, and highly adaptable...but not completely immune.Hell, characters that wield energy aren't immune to it.
Originally posted by Avlon
Radiant unfortunately had the experience of fighting a Doomsday that had evolved thousands of years past him, so DD was already past his level of damage. Superman had evolved twice by that time (once through the Eradicators process of rebirth, and 2nd with the motherbox amp) and HV still was ineffective against him.
Originally posted by TroltHaha I believe I used that idea before on Konvict vs WWH.
ahh arguing with only regards to high feats and none to the low feats.Why booster gold still has his head on his shoulders = doomsday isn't that strong.
Konvict give JLA a hard time, knockout Superman, but couldn't taken off Hawkgirls & Vixen head with the same punch....
I believe Iron Man Dies even if he calls up some register hero, too bad Dr. Strange isn't register.