Originally posted by Sundipped
As far as The Dreaming Celestial goes, his main intentions were to destroy the earth so I have a hard time seeing him fight for it. The S-Corps will do for him what he was planning to do anyway.There is no evidence currently that the Beyonder or Molecule Man are anywhere near the level they were in Secret Wars. They better stay where they are and hide or hitch a ride away from planet earth.
Yeah but the dreaming celestial isnt allowed.
Originally posted by Draco69Let's assume a normal scenario match where the Sinestro Corps attacks Marvel Earth and how they USUALLY respond to an alien invasion.
I.E. Avengers, SHIELD, X-Men, etc.
Anyway if the Dreaming celestial were allowed could Sinestro Corps take out sans Anti-monitor?
It seems without Dreaming Celestial its a complete and utter curbstomp.
Originally posted by Priest
Actually Marvel earth has The Dreaming Celestial that is leagues above an average Celestial imo..The entire 5th host couldn't kill him.The Beyonder at the LEAST is still a global threat, he was able to create planet earth to his image..He's still is a pretty nifty reality warper.
Post Recton MM is still powerful has hell, and still has control of every Molecule.
Any of these three can solo the Sinestro Corps sans Anti Monitor. Thier all well ABOVE Skyfather level.
It was the second host that attacked him
Post Retcon MM can probably collapse the multiverse
Most of earth is decimated in seconds.
Sentry might be elite top tier, but i'd doubt he can take more than 3 of the Corps without aid, unless he's got some light control i've forgotten....
I don't know how Thor ranks currently, but he'd go down to the sheer numbers sooner or later.
The one thing Marvel earth does have over DC, is that many of them will kill if need be.
Tiamut can likely blink out the corps, or MM can turn them into gases to repair the atmosphere and combat global warming.
Antimonitor isn't in the picture, but if he's counted......it wouldn't make any sense.
Originally posted by Superherovandal
SC. Seriously you have to wonder why the SC hasn't just had Sinestro fire an uber beam that would destroy the Earth.
Sinestro's main goal is to take control via fear.
He doesn't like chaos, and destroying the earth would be a chaotic thing to do.
Plus he wants Jordan to suffer.
Originally posted by K3VIL
Current Prime Eternal is Ikaris.Dreaming Celestial was disabled the last time he tried to use the power of Ashema.
The Beyonder is no more.
The only way I see Marvel Earth surviving is thank to this roster:
Thor
He should be back at his classic power levels, so he has access to most of the abilities the writers make him "forget" in all these years.
Dr. Strange
Do you believe the Vishanti wouldn't grant him enough power to back off the SC?
Sentry
Despite he may transform into the Void, he's still an available resource.
Dr. Doom
He always has something under his sleeve for this sort of situation.
Earth Skyfathers
Considering the decimation of mutants and death of many heroes after CW, M-Day and so, and the havok the SC could bring to Earth with beings like SBP, Cyborg Superman and the Anti-Monitor, Earth Skyfathers will surely join the rumble, thus setting things eaier for the Marvel Earth side.Each earth skyfather has power equal to Odin or close to that range, consider there are lik 15 of them, you got it.
You make a good point, but...
King Thor got basically pwned by Genis-Vell,
what do you think SBP, someone who retconned
an entire multi-verse is going to do to someone
that got pwned by someone that needed help to
destroy the universe? Not to put down Genis,
because he is an awesome character, and he was
pretty powerful, but still do you get my point?
Dr. Strange got pwned by Sentry.
...that's right... the same guy who
couldn't lift a helicarrier.
Sentry is nowhere near Henshaw in feats, and
can anyone say CLOC? Henshaw is an Omni-technopath.
With Superman level or above power.
Dr. Doom won't matter, there's no prep.
Earth Skyfathers...? Vs the Antimoniter?
No. Just no.
Even without the Antimoniter, have you seen the number
of Sinestro corps members? Not counting thier individual
abilities. Henshaw alone could make it so that NOTHING
electronic on Earth would work for ANYONE but him.
King Thor got basically pwned by Genis-Vell,
what do you think SBP, someone who retconned
an entire multi-verse is going to do to someone
that got pwned by someone that needed help to
destroy the universe? Not to put down Genis,
because he is an awesome character, and he was
pretty powerful, but still do you get my point?
SBP altered the universe.
Genis destroyed the multiverse with Entropy.
So, changing a few histories vs. erasing everything and anything.
Thor also has the Odinforce...Odin would beat the shit out of SBP, sorry.
Dr. Strange got pwned by Sentry.
...that's right... the same guy who
couldn't lift a helicarrier.
He's also the guy who beat a Herald of Galactus with ease.
Surfer has fought Terrax and never done that well.
Earth Skyfathers...? Vs the Antimoniter?
No. Just no.
A-M isn't in the fight and even if he was, how strong is he now? Maybe he's a piss-ant like the new Parallax and Ion.
Even without the Antimoniter, have you seen the number
of Sinestro corps members? Not counting thier individual
abilities. Henshaw alone could make it so that NOTHING
electronic on Earth would work for ANYONE but him.
Molecule Man wouldn't like that.
Originally posted by Validus
Can anyone come up with a way for Marvel to win without bringing up Celestials and Cosmic Cube characters? If not, this might as well be locked.
Let's see, you've got 7200 mid-high herald levelers (Sin corp members), a godly technopath who can take control of the entire planet (Henshaw), a PC kryptonian with perma sun-amp (SBP), The Manhunters (Not sure where to rank them, let's just go with low-mid herald), Kyleax who's trans levelish, Warworld with Henshaw controlling it, the sin corp's central power battery, and of course, Anti-Monitor who is at an unknown level of power.
Yep, they're screwed. Lock this one down. 😄
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
SBP altered the universe.Genis destroyed the multiverse with Entropy.
So, changing a few histories vs. erasing everything and anything.
Thor also has the Odinforce...Odin would beat the shit out of SBP, sorry.
He's also the guy who beat a Herald of Galactus with ease.
Surfer has fought Terrax and never done that well.
A-M isn't in the fight and even if he was, how strong is he now? Maybe he's a piss-ant like the new Parallax and Ion.
Molecule Man wouldn't like that.
I have the comic, and it doesn't say that he destroyed
the multi-verse. He destroyed the UNIVERSE. That
wasn't multi-eternity that Entropy killed, it was one of
his incarnations. Also, Genis needed the help of a high
end abstract entity to destroy the 616 Universe. SBP
retconned the entire DC continuity on his own. There
is a BIG difference. Also, if Genis needed help to
destroy one universe, and he pwned King Thor, who
was said to be more powerful than Odin, then SBP
will stomp current Thor as easily as he will the great
majority of CURRENT marvel Earth characters.
As far as Terrax goes, The THING has one-shotted
Terrax. All Terrax does is get pwned. That's his job.
Beating Terrax is no big deal. He is literally the
weakest Herald there is imo.
We haven't seen the AM in action yet, so I'm going by
his showings in COIE.
And it doesn't matter what Molecule Man likes or doesn't
like. To my knowledge, his feats were either retconned
out of existence, or he forgot about his uberness. If
I'm wrong, then where was he during WWH? Or
Annihilation for that matter?
Marvel Earth isn't in good enough shape to take the SC
of all things. Currently they'd get pwned.