The Sinestro Corps. vs. Marvel Earth

Originally posted by Priest
Genis and Entropy Destroyed at leas 2 universes, the 616, and the micro universe for sure.

And he still got pawned by a weakend K-nite Superman 🙄

King Thor was a novice with the Odin Power imo..Odin>King Thor
BUT RUNE King Thor>>Odin.
We're using current characters, their is no indication that Thor lost his power since the end of Ranaok
Oh the Current Marvel earth has bigger guns, not just Thor.(MM, Beyonder, Timut)

Shortly after Terrax got pawned by Sentry, Terrax (weakened) one shotted a planet with the same attack used, something that even Superman can't muster up.

u should, even tho the thread starter banned him in the fight 🙂
because without him the SC will get curbstomped.
Oh yea i forgot, Mad Jim Jaspers is on Marvel earth, and shit last time i checked he was still a threat to the OMNIVERSE.

Current MM still has the power to implode the MULTIVERSE. And is still one of the most powerful beings in existence according to The LT.

Oh and why would these uber Characters have beef with the Hulk? His beef is with the Illuminati and anyone that wants to get in his way.

MMJ, MM, can solo the SC 🙂

As far as Superboy-Prime getting "pawned" by a
weakened K-nite Superman. You "forgot" to tell the whole story.
Superboy-Prime lost all of his powers from being flown through a
red sun at the time. Also, have you ever heard of jobbing?

Also, tell me when a Celestial has EVER interfered with a shift of
authoritative power on Earth? Where th f**k was he when Galactus
came to eat Earth? The f**ker is going to remain sound asleep
while the Sinestro Corps rape Earth and all of it's inhabitants.
Also, as far as MM goes, he's not even on Earth right now. He
locked himself away in another dimension or something.

And last I heard the Beyonder got dealt with also. He got rendered
inert or something. Either way, I don't think that he's on Earth right
now either.

So, you actually don't believe that SUPERMAN can't one-shot a planet?
Are you serious? 😆

Also, last time I checked, WWH wanted to destroy everything.
He's pissed because they destroyed his world, so he's going to
destroy theirs. That's the concept. I'm sure that with all of his
Omniversal power, MJJ heard this, either on the enormous,
city-wide (possibly planetary) alert that Hulk gave to Earth,
alerting them that he was basically going to kill them all, or
he was alerted by his Omniversal powers. However, did he
rise to the occasion and send WWH to the corn field? No.
So, why would he act differently with the Sinestro Corps?

Originally posted by Sirius77
As far as Superboy-Prime getting "pawned" by a
weakened K-nite Superman. You "forgot" to tell the whole story.
Superboy-Prime lost all of his powers from being flown through a
red sun at the time. Also, have you ever heard of jobbing?

Originally posted by Sirius77
Also, tell me when a Celestial has EVER interfered with a shift of
authoritative power on Earth?

Originally posted by Sirius77
Where th f**k was he when Galactus
came to eat Earth?

Originally posted by Sirius77
The f**ker is going to remain sound asleep

Originally posted by Sirius77
Also, as far as MM goes, he's not even on Earth right now. He
locked himself away in another dimension or something.

Originally posted by Sirius77
And last I heard the Beyonder got dealt with also. He got rendered
inert or something. Either way, I don't think that he's on Earth right
now either.

Originally posted by Sirius77
So, you actually don't believe that SUPERMAN can't one-shot a planet?
Are you serious? 😆

Originally posted by Sirius77
Also, last time I checked, WWH wanted to destroy everything.

Originally posted by Sirius77
He's pissed because they destroyed his world, so he's going to
destroy theirs. That's the concept.

Originally posted by Sirius77
I'm sure that with all of his
Omniversal power, MJJ heard this, either on the enormous,
city-wide (possibly planetary)

Originally posted by Sirius77
alert that Hulk gave to Earth,
alerting them that he was basically going to kill them all, or
he was alerted by his Omniversal powers. However, did he
rise to the occasion and send WWH to the corn field? No.
So, why would he act differently with the Sinestro Corps?

lets keep this little debate on topic now..

Originally posted by Sundipped
There is no evidence currently that the Beyonder or Molecule Man are anywhere near the level they were in Secret Wars.

They better stay where they are and hide or hitch a ride away from planet earth.

Molecule Man solos ftw!
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Owen Reece in NOT a Cosmic Cube anymore.

His power has reached a potential that seems to rival Pre-retcon Molecule Man.

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Owen Reece has TWO personalities, a passive limited side that makes him:

"One of the MOST Powerful beings in ALL Creation"

That's the Living Tribunal talking. 🙂
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Owen Reece's OTHER side is the unlimited potential personified that he has.

This other side is called Molecule Man ... and this is what that looks like.

Owen Reece (POST-Molecule Man) ... becomes Molecule Man:

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When Molecule Man manifested out of Owen Reece,
he went out to find POST-Retcon Beyonder to kill him out of revenge.

Molecule Man is something like Pre-retcon Molecule Man,

Multi-versal for sure...

since his separation from the Cosmic Cube,

his power has reached levels that are unimaginable to Cube Beings.

Post-retcon Molecule Man is a MONSTER!

Molecule Man actually extracts the essence of the Beyonder that's within Kosmos.

"power unimaginable...it's reaching through time and space"

"ripping the essence of that being from me"

"My Soul...Gone"


"Is this death"?
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Continues...

"Who dares summon the Beyonder from Oblivion?

"I darebehold me...and despair"

"a conflict spanning PLANES of existence"

"a battle in which the laws of physics are tortured
beyond recognition and eventually shattered"

Molecule Man: "there are Infinities Beyond your limited perception"

"from the Quantum to the Trans-Multiversal,
Reality trembles as the forces unleashed reverberate through out creation"

Realize how ALL Reality (in the Multi-verse) is being affected because of them, (both are POST-Retcon).

A WATCHER even goes blind in another Universe.

And Beings in the FlatLand Universe are completely Warped,
from a Two Dimensional existence to Three Dimensional.

Continues...

Now part of the retcon of the Beyonder, is that he was made an intrinsic part of the Multi-verse.

"to rend the Life Force of such a being as the Beyonder"
"Havoc unthinkable would be wrecked across Multiversal Cosmography"

At first, some of us thought this was nonsense since the Maker
(current incarnation of the Beyonder)
was seemingly dead during the Annihilation series.

I began to turn pages and found this out: The Maker is NOT dead at all...

This is how the Maker "supposedly" ended up "Dead"...

as you can see, it's NOT TRUE.

Beyonder, (Maker) still imposing limitations like his PRE era, takes on Mortal Form.

"The Mind is Dead...Do NOT kill the body"...

This is in order to keep the essence of the Beyonder in prisoned within the Maker.

"Keep her body alive"

"a Living Prison"

"The ONLY prison capable of containing the Beyonder...it's essence"

"had we killed the Maker Form? The prisoner goes free"

"We would of ENABLED the thing we'd sought to prevent"
(the destruction of the Universe that is)

In this Thanos series,
the Maker could have imploded the Universe on a whim if it had not gone mad.

Continues...

Thanos knew of the Maker's potential:

Thanos says his only recollection of the Beyonder or Kosmos is "Unlimited power"

he repeats this.

This is Thanos after having possessed a Cosmic Cube that made him a Universe...
after having the Infinity Gauntlet that made him a "god"...
after having THOU ... which absorbed Living Tribunal.

The Maker was rendered unconcious,
because it took on mortal form and it was spiraling into madness:

They wanted to kill the Maker in it's vulnerable state... Gladiator asks,
"Can you kill a god?"

Here Gladiator calls the Maker
"the most powerful being in the known Universe"...

and again refers to it as a god...
but it' decided to take on mortal form, which made it vulnerable:

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Now back to Molecule Man...

Molecule Man's power, has FAR greater potential than any Cube Being
or even the Beyonder:

Kubik BEGS the Molecule Man not to kill the Beyonder,
which would bring forth the END of Reality:

Finally Molecule Man is calmed down and Owen is able to take control again,
he reverts back to passive, limited Owen Reece:

"Ripping galaxies apart, bending the Laws of nature at Whim ...That's easy stuff"

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Hope that cleared that up

And make no mistake about it folks,

this is the Same Molecule Man & Beyonder that began as Cube Beings,

still Canon to this day.

(excerpt from the official Marvel handbook Update #2 - Mid 2007)

MM went on to flourish into something far greater than a Cube Being.

Beyonder is still a Cube Being,
As Kosmos (with the Beyonder's essence trapped inside)
he and Kubik could Warp Time & Space on a near-Universal scale.
As the Beyonder himself, essence released)
he encompasses an entire Universe,
less powerful than an Aspect of Eternity (a Universe within the Prime Multiverse)

So now that Prime has a ring, will Kal become an Green Lantern?

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
So now that Prime has a ring, will Kal become an Green Lantern?

All Kal gets is a necktie.

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1434/kalneckue5.jpg

Having read more of Marvel&DC, I'm abit more aware of how powerful Molecule Man is. fear

That being said, what are the odds that he's going to give a damn about the Sin Corp? 😛

Originally posted by Soljer
All Kal gets is a necktie.

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1434/kalneckue5.jpg

Tiamut is the most dangerous thing on Earth

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
So now that Prime has a ring, will Kal become an Green Lantern?

I haven't seen Prime with a SC ring.

Originally posted by Estacado
Rather a dog leash......

Still a necktie. ermm.

Just an irregularly-shaped one.

Originally posted by Sirius77
You make a good point, but...

King Thor got basically pwned by Genis-Vell,
what do you think SBP, someone who retconned
an entire multi-verse is going to do to someone
that got pwned by someone that needed help to
destroy the universe? Not to put down Genis,
because he is an awesome character, and he was
pretty powerful, but still do you get my point?

Dr. Strange got pwned by Sentry.
...that's right... the same guy who
couldn't lift a helicarrier.

Sentry is nowhere near Henshaw in feats, and
can anyone say CLOC? Henshaw is an Omni-technopath.
With Superman level or above power.

Dr. Doom won't matter, there's no prep.

Earth Skyfathers...? Vs the Antimoniter?
No. Just no.

Even without the Antimoniter, have you seen the number
of Sinestro corps members? Not counting thier individual
abilities. Henshaw alone could make it so that NOTHING
electronic on Earth would work for ANYONE but him.

Originally posted by K3VIL
Dr. Strange is jobbing and majorly.Marvel writers themselves sayed they consider him a Deus Ex Machina, and if required, his powers are limitless, LIMITLESS.
King Thor and Genis wasn't even a fight, they just jobbed at each with one shooting an nrg blast to the other, and that's it.

Limitless is a very loose term in comics. Thanos w/ IG was
said to have limitless power. Hell, even without the IG, Odin
said that his power reserves were limitless, but how many
times has Thanos been beaten? What makes you think that
Dr. Strange would be different?

Actually, Genis was pwning Asgard. I have the comic. He wasn't
breaking a sweat. Also, he was winning quite easily in the King
Thor fight. He was even toying with Thor. That was the entire
reason why he was there.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Continues...

Thanos knew of the Maker's potential:

Thanos says his only recollection of the Beyonder or Kosmos is "Unlimited power"

he repeats this.

This is Thanos after having possessed a Cosmic Cube that made him a Universe...
after having the Infinity Gauntlet that made him a "god"...
after having THOU ... which absorbed Living Tribunal.

The Maker was rendered unconcious,
because it took on mortal form and it was spiraling into madness:

They wanted to kill the Maker in it's vulnerable state... Gladiator asks,
"Can you kill a god?"

Here Gladiator calls the Maker
"the most powerful being in the known Universe"...

and again refers to it as a god...
but it' decided to take on mortal form, which made it vulnerable:

..................................................................................

Now back to Molecule Man...

Molecule Man's power, has FAR greater potential than any Cube Being
or even the Beyonder:

Kubik BEGS the Molecule Man not to kill the Beyonder,
which would bring forth the END of Reality:

Finally Molecule Man is calmed down and Owen is able to take control again,
he reverts back to passive, limited Owen Reece:

"[B]Ripping galaxies apart, bending the Laws of nature at Whim ...That's easy stuff"

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Hope that cleared that up [/B]

I never said that Molecule Man wasn't powerful enough to
fight the Sinestro Corps. All I was trying to say was that he
wouldn't bother. I mean come on, hew locked himself away
in another dimension, why would he get involved in the very
planet that he was trying to distance himself from?