Does Luke Cage and colossus

Started by Battlehammer6 pages

Originally posted by Newjak
How about you actually describe a feat that Punisher and Hawkeye have that outdo Colossus 😉

I need to valiadte it for myself because I don't take your word for it.


give me the title and issue number for your feat and I will respond with my feat.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
what you said makes really not sense since if punisher has greater feats and is shown with greater reflexes then he has them.

I mean can any one actaully give pannel evdience of colossus beign stated with enchanced reflexes?

I don't follow your logic. First you say stuff like, Wolverine doesn't need to dodge bullets, but he is able to yet most of the time it doesn't seem like that.

Then you ramble about the fact that Colossus (a friggin' durable armored beast) doesn't have many/ superior speed feats compared to guys like Punisher or Hawkeye.. Ugh..

It's a pretty much universal law that people who don't have healing factors/super durability have super feats of speed and reaction time. Who'd want to read a comic where a peak human hero dies in the second panel because he's slow enough to dodge a bullet?

Besides, are you sure they're not just faster than the one operating the weapon, outspeeding the shooter.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
hahahaha that can turn into a statue............ 😛

Awww damn I'v been outdone...

Originally posted by Jyppe
I don't follow your logic. First you say stuff like, Wolverine doesn't need to dodge bullets, but he is able to yet most of the time it doesn't seem like that.

huge differences Logan has feats support this such as dodging gun fire, deflecting gun fire, cacting a bullet, being stated to have beyond human relfexes and so on.

Originally posted by Jyppe
Then you ramble about the fact that Colossus (a friggin' durable armored beast) doesn't have many/ superior speed feats compared to guys like Punisher or Hawkeye.. Ugh...

Not that he does not have many it the fact he does not have one superior to there and he hardly ever shows any sort of increadable reflexes.

Colossus has enhanced reflexes and speed.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Colossus has enhanced reflexes and speed.

Yup.

prove it. The reflex part since speed pritty moot most heavy hitters have soem sort of enchanced speed.

I mean when was colossus stated with enchanced relfexes? if colossus has enchanced reflex would not thing and so forth?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
if colossus has enchanced reflex would not thing and so forth?

Nope.

why not? it not like colossus has doen any thing reflex wise thing can't or has not.

also I have yet to see any one provide evidence of colossus on pannel being stated with enchanced reflexes

Originally posted by Battlehammer
why not? it not like colossus has doen any thing reflex wise thing can't or has not.

Sure he has.

He's received enhanced reflexes from his transformation into armored form.

Thing received no such enhancement.

Originally posted by Soljer
Sure he has.

He's received enhanced reflexes from his transformation into armored form.

Thing received no such enhancement.


again prove it. You state it alot but have yet to prove it.

when in any comic has colossus ever been stated with enhanced reflexes?

there way to much cock stroking on colossus part.

his reflexes are no better then thing it his agility that is. Though even that still well with in human limits comic wise.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

his reflexes are no better then thing it his agility that is. Though even that still well with in human limits comic wise.

Untrue.

His reflexes are enhanced. Thing's are normal human.

Originally posted by Soljer
Untrue.

His reflexes are enhanced. Thing's are normal human.

PROVE IT. WERE HAS THIS EVER BEEN STATED IN A COMIC?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
PROVE IT. WERE HAS THIS EVER BEEN STATED IN A COMIC?

Yes.

Originally posted by Soljer
Yes.

Really what issue and title?

becuase I read most all of colossus apearences and I never seen this

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Really what issue and title?

becuase I read most all of colossus apearences and I never seen this

If you haven't read it, then I doubt you've read the majority of his appearances.

Originally posted by Soljer
If you haven't read it, then I doubt you've read the majority of his appearances.

Oh I have it kinda of hard not to when you read x-men comics..........

you still have yet to give me an issue number and title of the issue. If it so obviously presented in comics then you should ahve no trouble doing this?

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The Uncanny X-Men (1963) #95 - 'Warhunt!'
The Uncanny X-Men (1963) #96 - 'Night of the Demon!'
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The Uncanny X-Men (1963) #191
Les Mystérieux X-Men (1981) 27/28
Marvel Super-Heroes Secret Wars (1984) #12
ROM (1979) #65
The Uncanny X-Men (1963) #192

And that's only till April '85. 😐

what was the point in putting that down? I ask for you to present the title and issue in which it states colossus has enchanced human reflexes.

.......which again you ignored and now instead of giving me the issue you just post a whole bunch of issues he been in..........seems like your avoiding the question as if you don't have any evdience to suport your claims. Which is odd coming from you. Though the colossus hype is huge around here and most people take what people say about him as fact when in fact it not.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
what was the point in putting that down? I ask for you to present the title and issue in which it states colossus has enchanced human reflexes.

.......which again you ignored and now instead of giving me the issue you just post a whole bunch of issues he been in..........seems like your avoiding the question as if you don't have any evdience to suport your claims. Which is odd coming from you. Though the colossus hype is huge around here and most people take what people say about him as fact when in fact it not.

Nope.

It was in one of those.

For someone who has read almost every issue colossus has ever been in, it's kinda funny that you've never read something that's been stated no less than a dozen times before 1985.