I didnt see that rule. He can still use it im not restricting him from not using it. It just wont have any effect due to lack of medichlorians . He can wave his hand infront of Ryu all he wants
Nihilus:*attempts force choke* Feel the power of the dark side
Ryubusa:........huh?
Nihilius:*attempts again*I said feel the power of the dark side
Ryubusa:...*confused*...
Nihilius:NOW YOU WILL TRUELY UNDERSTAND THE POWER OF THE DARK SI-.........
Ryubusa:*Does Blade of the Nirriti followed by a well placed Inuzna Drop*You now know the true power of the Asian Invasion....*****
But um yeah Im only saying this stuff cuz that Blaix dont feel like pressing back to get his name Said all Nihilus has to do was use the force to snap his neck and their is nothing he could do about it. So i gave him a valid canon reason why Nihilus couldn't
Originally posted by Csdabest
I didnt see that rule. He can still use it im not restricting him from not using it. It just wont have any effect due to lack of medichlorians . He can wave his hand infront of Ryu all he wantsNihilus:*attempts force choke* Feel the power of the dark side
Ryubusa:........huh?
Nihilius:*attempts again*I said feel the power of the dark side
Ryubusa:...*confused*...
Nihilius:NOW YOU WILL TRUELY UNDERSTAND THE POWER OF THE DARK SI-.........
Ryubusa:*Does Blade of the Nirriti followed by a well placed Inuzna Drop*You now know the true power of the Asian Invasion....*****But um yeah Im only saying this stuff cuz that Blaix dont feel like pressing back to get his name Said all Nihilus has to do was use the force to snap his neck and their is nothing he could do about it. So i gave him a valid canon reason why Nihilus couldn't
Saying jedi/sith can't use their force powers on things from other universes is as lame as pokémon can't kill -.-'
What about sith lightining? doesn't look like you need medichlorians to get that....or to you know, throw lots of heavy stuff at/on them.
Anyways, since in V2D's thread and he hasn't stated otherwise, Force power do affect Ryu in this VS ;p
Originally posted by CsdabestThe yuuzhan vong arent connected to the force nor touched by itat all and yet force powers are still able to kill them.Now relevence. If Ryu Hayabusa is not from the star wars universe and does not have Medichlorians in his body to manipulate. How is Darth Nihilus suppose to use any force powers aginst him? He can't unless its indirectly such as lifting objects and tossing them at the Ryu which Ryu would mainly dodge. Ninpo on the other hand is using Ryu own energy to create his phenomon so his wouldnt be out of whack. Which is why Ryu would most likely pwn Darth Nihilus even with force powers. but the Telekenesis is another thing to worry about.
And before you ramble "Zomg! but it isnt canon!"
It already is as stated by The new essential chronology and various sources.
Face it, the force WILL effect ryu hayabusa
The only attack which wouldnt work on ryu is his drain attack because it only effects force users seeing that it cuts them off the force causing them to die.
All other force powers will work on ryu, force lightning, force crush , force grip and from what we have seen, darth vader can instally kill his victims using TK based attacks. Most of these save for lightning ARE tk based attacks
Ryu gets wtf pwned seeing that force users are omnipotent no non-force users. I take it you never heard of force speed which is a basic force power?
With that power mace windu was described as invisible against his fight with kar vastor, Sidious too could move faster than the speed of light, so fast that the eye couldnt see him(Dark empire)
Originally posted by CsdabestProve it, luke still killed the vong who are untouched by the force nor do they have midichlorians
Fine. I'll bring it like this since we think force is instant win. The force only works in the star wars universe.
Originally posted by CsdabestWrong, just wrong, The jedi use the force to lift an object, not manipulate the midichlorians, So tell me, seeing that metal, wood this and that do not contain midichlorians, how do they telekenetically lift them? Through the force.
Why because it is the manipulation of medichlorians. Medichlorians is basicly the atom of the star wars universe. The Force users have the ability to manipulate the medichlorians in an object.
Originally posted by CsdabestIs there anything to back up this ridiculous assertion? Or are you speculating ?
That is how Strong force weilders severe someone from the force. They use their medichlorians to jam the control or cut the control of the other users from manipulating other medichlorians since that is thing that connect and binds everyone in the universe.
Originally posted by CsdabestAbsolute bullshit, Just to let you know anakin has the highest midicholorian count and had he achieved his full potential he would be the most powerful force user ever in SW history.
Force Drain is draining the medichlorains from another user or an object.
The point im saying is more midichlorian = more power as stated by george lucas and going by what you say which is clearly wrong, draining another force user will make you more powerful becuse you drain his midicholirian? And the fact that we have seen sith lords draining there victims and not getting any more powerful?
What the hell are you talking about? FD is draining the life force from another person
Originally posted by CsdabestIronically vader still could cause a guys head to explode despite him being dead, Name that book, now
There is a book which are canon that further proves this theory when Jedi youngling with their master are out in the forest trainning. Their master ordered them to lift up a creature and move it out of the way because it was dead. Neither the students nor the master was able to remove the creature because it had been completely drained of its medichlorians thus dying.
Your theorys are destroyed
Originally posted by CsdabestThe scepter of ragnos? Was there any proof that it will even work? Tavion and the diciples planned to use it, and so far the only thing it did was awake the spirit of marka ragnos, it didnt ressurect him
Which led further into the bigger part of the story to find the person who has been trying to drain the force out of others. To Ressurect some dark jedi.
Originally posted by Csdabestalready dealt with
Now relevence. If Ryu Hayabusa is not from the star wars universe and does not have Medichlorians in his body to manipulate. How is Darth Nihilus suppose to use any force powers aginst him? He can't unless its indirectly such as lifting objects and tossing them at the Ryu which Ryu would mainly dodge. Ninpo on the other hand is using Ryu own energy to create his phenomon so his wouldnt be out of whack. Which is why Ryu would most likely pwn Darth Nihilus even with force powers. but the Telekenesis is another thing to worry about.
Originally posted by shin_gear
Meh...I guess so, since the starter stated both had chances.I'll agree that Ryu can take a number of wins.
Since violent stated ryu can block the LS with his swords, In a pure duel, ryu utterly annihilates nihilus as we know jack about nihilus dueling ability.
In most other cases nihilus wins.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeHaya wouldnt even be able to give a fight if nihilus uses instantaneous tk attacks.
Hayabusa can handle Nihilus' lightsaber with the plasma saber. 131As for the matchup...though Hayabusa will give a hell of a fight he has no actual defense against the force. He pretty much loses by default unless Nihilus is hungry.
And nihilus being hungry wouldnt effect hayabusa simply because hayabusa isnt connected the the force.
Nihilus special draining technique effects those touched by the force
As for a duel, hayabusa owns him
Originally posted by Manslayer
Haya wouldnt even be able to give a fight if nihilus uses instantaneous tk attacks.And nihilus being hungry wouldnt effect hayabusa simply because hayabusa isnt connected the the force.
Nihilus special draining technique effects those touched by the force
As for a duel, hayabusa owns him
So what the **** are you trying to say...that the force won't work on Hayabusa? You said earlier it would. Regardless of where you stand I think it will work on him. Qui-Gon described the midichlorians as lifeforms that coexisted with all living beings. Hayabusa being a living being would classify him...well...except there is a possibility Hayabusa is actually undead or a spirit since Doku killed him in NG.
never the less...what was your point? I did say Hayabusa loses by default. Should I take the hunger part out, eventhough you are telling me right now the force won't work on him.
Please elaborate because I'm somewhat lost in translation.
I am not scanning every book that explains it. Go to your local libary and read like I have. You will see it hinted and clearly explains how the force works. Go outside of the movies and two games to get your information. The Force would not work on Ryu Hayabusa because he has not medicholorians to manipulate. Metal wood and all contain it and is move by manipulating the medichlorians. Argue with George Lucas on the subject. He stated in a interview that the Jedi's manipulate medichlorians and thats how the force works. The Interveiw happened about 7 or 8 years ago. Go argue with the person who created the series on the matter. The interview happened around or before the release of Episode 1.
Originally posted by Csdabest
I am not scanning every book that explains it. Go to your local libary and read like I have. You will see it hinted and clearly explains how the force works. Go outside of the movies and two games to get your information.
In a debate you have to provide proof, regardless of whether they can look it up themselves or not. If you do not provide proof, then you're point is automatically void.
I didnt see that in the rule book nor is it in their. But Nihilus instant kill is taken away but Ryu's is still in soo....
Ryu Art of the Inazuma
or Art of the Hurricane
Instantly kills Nihilus Since he doesnt have instant Kill.
Setting having to find one another
Ryu uses Art of the Spirit Clone and makes exact copies of himself send his copies in to distract while Real RYu used Instant Kill Ninpo.
Or Ryu gets killed Nihilus walks away Ryu gets ressurected by hawk once again and Kills an unexpecting Nihilus
Ryu Teleports behind Nihilus and slices.
Ryu Teleports away from the battle feild and prepare Spirit CLone Tactic.
Most Of Nihilus claims to win is for Ryu to sit there and look dumb which is something Ryu wouldnt do.
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
In a debate you have to provide proof, regardless of whether they can look it up themselves or not. If you do not provide proof, then you're point is automatically void.
Also please provide proof where Darth Nihilus force powers which only works in his universe through medichlorian manipulation would work Aginst Ryu.
Second thought provide proof for each and every single point or statement you have made since you been in at this forum. I looked back and you dont provide. So why should waist my time and provide proof when you can easily pick up a book or find the interview yourself. Specialy with the books. Whats your adress I will mail you my copy.
If I am wrong then George Lucas is wrong. Because on quote
"The way a Jedi taps into the force is through medichlorian manipulations. Which is where medichlorian counts of a jedi steps in. The more one Jedi has the more control over the force he has."
More or less along those lines. So I guess George Lucas is wrong. My bad. Next time I'll listen to the people who had nothing to do with the creation of the star wars universe