Darth Nihilus vs. Ryu Hayabusa

This pretty much debunks your whole thing of midichlorians being the atom of the SW universe, and clearly refers to them as in the cells. Jedi and Sith manipulate THEIR OWN midichlorians. The Force works on droids, and they have none. Here is the link: http://www.theforce.net/midichlorians/

But as you stated he can use the force . But no instant kills. Well Ryu has access to Ninpo which most if not all are instant kills. So Ryu Kills Nihilus with Ninpo. Spirit Clone to distract Nihilus while real Ryu goes in for the instant Kill

Nihilus w/o instant kill. Ryu wins 7/10.

No. 😐 I stated he cannot use Force Kill, which is what I named Nihilus' unique attack that he killed Katar with. Phail.

Um exactly...Cant use force kill. Not instantly killing Ryu....So your point....

Ryu uses his Assortment of Ninpo and kills Nihilus.

...HE CAN'T USE FORCE KILL, THE MOVE HE USED TO KILL THE PLANET KATAR! He could also, you know, TK the shit out of him.

Yeah. But if Ryu uses Art of the Spirit CLone making multiple copies of himself. Is he really going to take out multiple copies with TK who beats him in speed?

Yes, with the force that would be easy to do. All he has to do is just snap his fingers and all of the copies, including the real one, would just levitate in the air, unmoving. Besides, with the force Nihlus could easily just see through the copies and attack the real one.

Um All copies are real or atleast Just as Deadly as the original. And your statesment is why im arguing more than I would want to.

He Snaps his fingers all go floating right. Hayabusa Puts his hands togeather or one of the clones and Performs art of the Inazuma or Hurricane and basicly messed Nihilus Once again. I know what Nihilus can do. But Capturing ALL high speed targets that are indeed faster than him. When you need to focus to use the force. Its not just snap and oh everything is my will. To use the force you need to focus. So How is Nihilus going to capture all multiple targets that poops on him in the speed department?

You can't outrun the force.

Nihilus tore a fleet of ships from the surface of a planet with TK, he can TK a bunch of clones. 😬

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
So what the **** are you trying to say...that the force won't work on Hayabusa?

Originally posted by Csdabest
I am not scanning every book that explains it. Go to your local libary and read like I have. You will see it hinted and clearly explains how the force works.

Originally posted by Csdabest

Go outside of the movies and two games to get your information. The Force would not work on Ryu Hayabusa because he has not medicholorians to manipulate.

Why dont you shut the hell up and accpet the fact the force WILL work on him, seeing that it works on vongs who DONT have midicholrians

Originally posted by Csdabest

Metal wood and all contain it and is move by manipulating the medichlorians. Argue with George Lucas on the subject.

Quigon in the movies states it exists in all living things, not non living things

Originally posted by Csdabest

He stated in a interview that the Jedi's manipulate medichlorians and thats how the force works.

Originally posted by Csdabest

The Interveiw happened about 7 or 8 years ago. Go argue with the person who created the series on the matter. The interview happened around or before the release of Episode 1.

Originally posted by Csdabest
To use the force you need to focus. So How is Nihilus going to capture all multiple targets that poops on him in the speed department?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Nihilus tore a fleet of ships from the surface of a planet with TK, he can TK a bunch of clones. 😬

I already proved him wrong, making your post unnecessary. 😛

Now im argueing that haya cant out run the force seeing that the force is everywhere

He claims you need focus to kill your opponent thru the force, vader does that sub conciously w/o even focusing to kill his opponent

Originally posted by Manslayer
Now im argueing that haya cant out run the force seeing that the force is everywhere

He claims you need focus to kill your opponent thru the force, vader does that sub conciously w/o even focusing to kill his opponent

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
True. Nihilus is essentially a Force Demi-God,

Vader, exar kun and revan greatly surpass him

Originally posted by Manslayer
I wont agree with you on that part, His special attack is the only thing he has which makes him strong, In other aspects of the force like other powers,

Vader, exar kun and revan greatly surpass him

Ok yeah You dont need to focus to use the force...And obvious my statement was saying he can outrun the force. Not the person controling the force. Yeah and the ships oh they werent moving aroundthey were just standing not moving around. not faster in scale when it comes to Nihilus. Oh and people wont read multiple books of star wars or just look up the interview and wanna say George Lucas is wrong. But since topic creator said he has force powers just not force kill. If that was the case Jedis wouldnt have to worry about storm troopers ore other non force users . Also we clear that the force just happens with out concentrating. That it just happens. No level of concentration or focus is need. What else have we establish. Force> Everything else.

So lets see what we hit on. That the creators of star wars is wrong about their force theory. That you dont need to think or focus to use the force it just happens. Hmmm What else. Oh and slow moving space ships that are clearly visible due to scale equals someone who is in scale with you and is easily faster and wont be able to see most of the fight that you can not only keep up with one that you cant see or focus in on. That they can focus on not only one but multiple targets that are faster than him greatly in him in scale. That he is a demi-god and other Jedi's are way strong them him making them practicaly gods. Becausee well above a Demi-god is god.

Now in a nutshell ^^^ thats all you have basicly said

Csdabest. You get your ass handed and you come back for more.

Now i will severely humuliate you

Originally posted by Csdabest
Ok yeah You dont need to focus to use the force...And obvious my statement was saying he can outrun the force.

Luke skywalker and palpatines duel in DE was so fast than even leia couldnt see either of them, and when palpatine or luke threw force powers at each other, it still hit either of them despite the fact that they moved faster than the eye can see

Source: Dark empire

Originally posted by Csdabest

Not the person controling the force. Yeah and the ships oh they werent moving aroundthey were just standing not moving around. not faster in scale when it comes to Nihilus.

Originally posted by Csdabest

Oh and people wont read multiple books of star wars or just look up the interview and wanna say George Lucas is wrong.

Again the movies disprove your theories, metal and wood are non living things, and force users still can lift them using the force.

And i HAVE read more books than you, I have the new essential chronology, i have the ultimate visual guide, every of these books disproves your unsupported idiotic theories

Originally posted by Csdabest

But since topic creator said he has force powers just not force kill. If that was the case Jedis wouldnt have to worry about storm troopers ore other non force users .

Originally posted by Csdabest

Also we clear that the force just happens with out concentrating. That it just happens. No level of concentration or focus is need. What else have we establish. Force> Everything else.

Did i say absolutely no concentration is needed? Watch the empire strikes back and your wrong

Originally posted by Csdabest

So lets see what we hit on. That the creators of star wars is wrong about their force theory.

Originally posted by Csdabest

That you dont need to think or focus to use the force it just happens.

Your claim was that nihilus needs to fully focus inorder to use a force attack to kill some one.
I disproved that when i brought up the case where vader kills someone with the force while he is talking to his officer.

Originally posted by Csdabest

Hmmm What else. Oh and slow moving space ships that are clearly visible due to scale equals someone who is in scale with you and is easily faster and wont be able to see most of the fight that you can not only keep up with one that you cant see or focus in on.

Originally posted by Csdabest

That they can focus on not only one but multiple targets that are faster than him greatly in him in scale. That he is a demi-god and other Jedi's are way strong them him making them practicaly gods. Becausee well above a Demi-god is god.

Only luke skywalker and emperor palpatine are

Originally posted by Csdabest

Now in a nutshell ^^^ thats all you have basicly said

Now, concede or i will destroy your next arguement

im done