Originally posted by Hannibal-LectorOkay, you are taking that immune to heat thing too literally. A LS would cut him, but nontheless, he wins.
Well, Sion pretty much is limitted to force me thinks... (Sephiroth was stated immune to heat which is pretty much a Lightsaber and even if he was vulnerable, Genesis's sword was in a lightsaber like state and was still paryable....)
Id say Sephiroth...
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
What Blax said. Nihilus IMO is the 2nd strongest Sith Lord.
Uh hell no, 2nd goes to either revan or exar kun.
Only thing nihilus is special is his draining technique which several force users can counter with the fallanasi technique.
In other aspects of the force , Vader, exar and revan are greater and stronger than nihilus
Originally posted by Hannibal-Lector
Well, Sion pretty much is limitted to force me thinks... (Sephiroth was stated immune to heat which is pretty much a Lightsaber and even if he was vulnerable, Genesis's sword was in a lightsaber like state and was still paryable....)
Id say Sephiroth...
Just where does it state sephiroth is immune to heat?
Anyways sephiroth wins this, sions "immortality" is only avalible when he is empowered by the dark side of the force in planets like malachor
Originally posted by ManslayerTK. 😐 He at a weakened state brought the Exile to her knees with a gesture, his mere presence and speech slowly kill all around him. How is Revan stronger? Name one feat that puts him on the level of Nihilus, in power. Nihilus holds his ship together, keeps his crews minds enslaved, and keeps them alive, simultaneously. He TKed his whole fleet for crying out loud. He can also feel beings thru the Force all across the galaxy. He in cut content pwned the so-called "invincible" Sion easily in 10 seconds with one attack of Force Lightning.
Uh hell no, 2nd goes to either revan or exar kun.Only thing nihilus is special is his draining technique which several force users can counter with the fallanasi technique.
In other aspects of the force , Vader, exar and revan are greater and stronger than nihilus
Originally posted by Violent2DopeSidious and yodas TK surpass his, Vaders TK has been shown to instantly kill its victims
TK.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeHis mere presence effected the non force users and the weak minded. Mandalore and the mandalorians didnt get effected by this
his mere presence and speech slowly kill all around him. How is Revan stronger? Name one feat that puts him on the level of Nihilus, in power. Nihilus holds his ship together,
Originally posted by Violent2DopeAgain its one ship, not a fleet as the out of universe source states
He TKed his whole fleet for crying out loud.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeCut content = non canon nor did it ever happen,
He can also feel beings thru the Force all across the galaxy. He in cut content pwned the so-called "invincible" Sion easily in 10 seconds with one attack of Force Lightning.
So what if he senses beings on the other side of the galaxy? Vader demonstrates this in TESB, Obi wan demonstrates this in ANH
And feat wars? Revan simply has much greater knowledge of the force than nihilus. He studied everything nihilus didnt know when he plundered malachor and his biggest feat is problably using malachors dark side aura to destroy the mandalorian crusaders i think
@Edit.
Though its claimed nihilus holds his ship together with the force, the ship still stayed together after he died
Originally posted by Manslayer1. Sidious, yes, Yoda, don't know why he's even being mentioned. Vader, good for him, Nihilus TKed his fleet, as Tobin stated. Nihilus in a weakened state took the Exile to her knees with a mere gesture, and could have easily killed her, but tryed to Force Kill her, and failed due to her nature as a wound.
Sidious and yodas TK surpass his, Vaders TK has been shown to instantly kill its victimsHis mere presence effected the non force users and the weak minded. Mandalore and the mandalorians didnt get effected by this
Again its one ship, not a fleet as the out of universe source states
Cut content = non canon nor did it ever happen,
So what if he senses beings on the other side of the galaxy? Vader demonstrates this in TESB, Obi wan demonstrates this in ANH
And feat wars? Revan simply has much greater knowledge of the force than nihilus. He studied everything nihilus didnt know when he plundered malachor and his biggest feat is problably using malachors dark side aura to destroy the mandalorian crusaders i think
@Edit.
Though its claimed nihilus holds his ship together with the force, the ship still stayed together after he died
2. Mandalorians? The only Mandalorian in his presence was Canderous, who is a veteran, and very familiar with Jedi and Sith.
3. Tobin states it.
4. True, but come one, he was always meant to be the strongest KOTOR 2 character. 😬
5. It still shows power thru the Force, and Nihilus did it to find the exact location of one being.
6. Kay. Nihilus killed a planet's population by speaking.
7. It blew up soon after he did. 😬 Also, what about him keeping his whole crew enslaved and keeping them alive at the same time?
Finally, another good feat, Nihilus while doubly weakened(by his hunger and trying to Force Kill the Exile) fought three opponents, the Exile, who knew at least 3 saber forms, and was stronger than an average Jedi now, Visas, and Canderous, the 2 former using sabers and the latter either using blasters or a vibroblade. Then, it turns out, Nihilus WAS WINNING according to dialogue by Visas, then he eventually fell, either by fighting hard with the power of friendship and love(ROFL) or having Visas f*ck with his flow of power via her Force Bond with him.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeTobin is fallible, he was not there when nihilus drawed his ship out of the gravity well, Again the loading screen states only nihilus lifted out his flagship and makes no mention of other ships.
1. Sidious, yes, Yoda, don't know why he's even being mentioned. Vader, good for him, Nihilus TKed his fleet, as Tobin stated.
Out of universe statements > tobins statement. This is a basic rule in star wars debating
Originally posted by Violent2DopeNihilus never brought her to her knees, he just stunned her
Nihilus in a weakened state took the Exile to her knees with a mere gesture, and could have easily killed her, but tryed to Force Kill her, and failed due to her nature as a wound.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeZuka was in there, he didnt get effected, so was the neo crusaders, watch th cut scene and you are wrong
2. Mandalorians? The only Mandalorian in his presence was Canderous, who is a veteran, and very familiar with Jedi and Sith.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeHe is fallible nor did he see nihilus lifting his ship from malachor, the other sith warships looked undamaged and brand new thus they couldnt have been near malachor
3. Tobin states it.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeAgain revan, vader and the others can easily do this, even ANH obi wan did it
5. It still shows power thru the Force, and Nihilus did it to find the exact location of one being.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeYou are taking things too litrally, the comic
6. Kay. Nihilus killed a planet's population by speaking.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeThat doesnt show great strength in the force. And the ship which blew up was due to the bombs the exile planted
7. It blew up soon after he did. 😬 Also, what about him keeping his whole crew enslaved and keeping them alive at the same time?
Originally posted by Violent2DopeSo? Vader fights 8 jedi masters at once, wtf pwns 4 of them and his clone troopers came in to kill the other 4,
Finally, another good feat, Nihilus while doubly weakened(by his hunger and trying to Force Kill the Exile) fought three opponents, the Exile, who knew at least 3 saber forms, and was stronger than an average Jedi now, Visas, and Canderous, the 2 former using sabers and the latter either using blasters or a vibroblade. Then, it turns out, Nihilus WAS WINNING according to dialogue by Visas, then he eventually fell, either by fighting hard with the power of friendship and love(ROFL) or having Visas f*ck with his flow of power via her Force Bond with him.
And this purge vader hasnt even been trained by sidious yet seeing it happens only 3 weks after revenge of the sith
Originally posted by Csdabest
I just realised. When in the world did Force Users get Telekensis. Am I missing something here
Never seen vader using telekenesis in The empire strikes back? Never seen dooku using it in AOTC? Never seen luke skywalker using it on dagobah?
Shut up already
You obviously know jack about star wars and you act like your some star was intellect
Originally posted by Csdabest
You know.I cant find it anywhere were they state they use teleknesis. Look who is going on speculation. Looked on different sources on their jedi and sith abilities. I dont see telekenesis. but if you want to keep arguing about it sensely..Be my guess. Have fun Manslayer
DSSB states telekenesis is part of their abilities
Look here you DOLT, Vader sends objects flying at luke skywalker in the movies . Oh wait you are so idiotic ill post you a link of vader actually doing it while being backed up by the omniscient narrator
^ Read the upper left hand corner and shut the hell up.
Oh and to further disprove your theory the force is about manipulating midicholrians, That guy vader flung in the air is a cyborg
NOW for the serious matter : heres a request
Originally posted by Csdabest
Interesting...and I love you too Manslayer....I like how you keep following me around and PMing all the time even though I told you to stop...Your making me blush...Honestly
Firstly i didnt pm you, I was the one who pmed violent2k and then you came in and reply and argue like a dumbass who never shuts up or backs his claims.
I merely replied, you replied with crap and i corrected you, period and now you accuse me of stalking you?
If you didnt want me to reply to your PMs then in the first place you shouldnt have PM! Whats so hard to understand?
Sheesh i can be mentally retarted and out debate you
How bout i be nice enough to post what you sent me in your PMs?
Originally posted by Csdabest
Dude..I like Sooo wanna french you right now...Those lovely 8 PM you sent me were fantasticly romantic. I think Im in love. You vast knowlege of the science fiction world is soooo turning me on. Give me more.
Lets see, seems to me you are in :
Lol behaving like a lunatic huh? How are those anti depressants going?
Tell you what im not going to bother to argue with you anymore seeing that we are derailing the topic.
@ To the ones interested in this versus match
Back on topic, sephiroth wins, sion is an overrated bullshit character, his immortality is only on malachor V, no where else, and maybe on dark side empowered worlds.
Since this fight isn't there, sephiroth wins quite comfortably
No I just truely Admire yours feeling to me. Sephiroth wins do to the nerfed Darth Sion and that he is not that effiecent with Force Powers. But I will be picking you up around 8. And I'll stop when you stop backing up each of your arguments with insults. But untill then....I'll just pretend you my cute little fudge muffin