I don't care about rankings but it's quite obvious that Nihilus is more powerful than the likes of Exar and Revan. Also, to manslayer Revan never used the ds energy of Malachor to defeat the crusaders. He only ever used Malachor's ds energy to turn Jedi - still nowhere near as powerful as Nihilus though.
As for this fight it depends, if Sephiroth can match or eclipse the speed of a force user like Sion he probably wins it.
However I'll say that taking away Sion's invulnerability is like taking away more than half of Sephiroth's powers. He's invulnerability is what makes him special.
Originally posted by AllanklesSettle this in the SW lietrature forum. Name the thread what ever you want
I don't care about rankings but it's quite obvious that Nihilus is more powerful than the likes of Exar and Revan. Also, to manslayer Revan never used the ds energy of Malachor to defeat the crusaders. He only ever used Malachor's ds energy to turn Jedi - still nowhere near as powerful as Nihilus though.
Originally posted by AllanklesSion never demonstarted force speed nor was he ever depicted to "move faster than the eye can see" such like sidious luke or vader when vader dodged a blaster bolt after it was fired
As for this fight it depends, if Sephiroth can match or eclipse the speed of a force user like Sion he probably wins it.
Originally posted by AllanklesAnd his "invulnerability " is only on dark side empowered world as he him self stated. And his "invulnerability" can be taken away by stronger willed and more powerful force users
However I'll say that taking away Sion's invulnerability is like taking away more than half of Sephiroth's powers. He's invulnerability is what makes him special.
Originally posted by Manslayer1. How do you even know he was not there?
Tobin is fallible, he was not there when nihilus drawed his ship out of the gravity well, Again the loading screen states only nihilus lifted out his flagship and makes no mention of other ships.Out of universe statements > tobins statement. This is a basic rule in star wars debating
Nihilus never brought her to her knees, he just stunned her
Zuka was in there, he didnt get effected, so was the neo crusaders, watch th cut scene and you are wrong
He is fallible nor did he see nihilus lifting his ship from malachor, the other sith warships looked undamaged and brand new thus they couldnt have been near malachorAgain revan, vader and the others can easily do this, even ANH obi wan did it
You are taking things too litrally, the comic
clearly illustrates nihilus draining the planet, Visas quote is hyperbole and the fact that when he spoke to them, he drained them at the same time
That doesnt show great strength in the force. And the ship which blew up was due to the bombs the exile planted
So? Vader fights 8 jedi masters at once, wtf pwns 4 of them and his clone troopers came in to kill the other 4,And this purge vader hasnt even been trained by sidious yet seeing it happens only 3 weks after revenge of the sith
2. Are you sure? I can't really remember, been awhile. Either way, he easily could have killed her after doing so, but didn't.
3. Kay, I will.
4. They maight not have suffered the great damage the Ravager did.
5. When the hell has Revan done this? I'm not saying he can't, just want to know when. And also, Vader, Revan, and ANH Kenobi are strong in the Force, well, Kenobi kinda is...
6. Said comic clearly states he did it by speaking. And that is still a greater feat of power than Revan has.
7. I know that's why it blew up, but ever think that it may of exploded before Nihilus' power over it wore off? Also, he kept it together, enslaved his crew, and kept them alive, how does that not=power over the Force?
8. Kay. Nihilus was beating 3 people, one of whom I can confidently say is a great Jedi with the power of a master, and beyond the ones Vader fought, and was winning, and this is while doubly weakened as I said, at full power he would have murked them.
On a side note, this Csdabest guy is a moron.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeBecause the ravager was pulled out prior to the sith civil war and at that time tobin was in onderon
1. How do you even know he was not there?
Originally posted by Violent2DopeNo, she got stunned
2. Are you sure? I can't really remember, been awhile. Either way, he easily could have killed her after doing so, but didn't.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeIf they suffered any damage at all it would have been made obvious. Again after the jedi civil war there are still sith warships in existence, namely those who didnt participate in the battle of rakata prime4. They maight not have suffered the great damage the Ravager did.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeRevan can seeing he is a very powerful force user
5. When the hell has Revan done this? I'm not saying he can't, just want to know when. And also, Vader, Revan, and ANH Kenobi are strong in the Force, well, Kenobi kinda is...
Originally posted by Violent2DopeYour taking things out of context, if he kills people by talking, wouldnt that make him more powerful than sidious? Wouldnt mandalore die because he spoke?
6. Said comic clearly states he did it by speaking. And that is still a greater feat of power than Revan has.
Again the comic clearly illustrates him draining the planet and not killing everything by "talking". He cuts them off the force causing them to die and feeds on the death it causes.
Prove that he kills people by speaking,
Visas said this when my master spoke, everything on katar died ,
She merely said that when he spoke, people began to die, That doesn't mean his words killed them, he could have communicated with them telepathically and then at the same time drained them.
So if this guy says "When guy B spoke, Guy A dies" Does that mean Guy B killed Guy A by speaking? Considering the fact that he has a weapon in his hand?
Considering the fact that nihilus kills his victims by using his variant of the force sever technique?
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
7. I know that's why it blew up, but ever think that it may of exploded before Nihilus' power over it wore off? Also, he kept it together, enslaved his crew, and kept them alive, how does that not=power over the Force?
Well if he did held the ship together while being alive, how come the ship stays intact after he dies when he can no longer control the ship?
Originally posted by Violent2DopeProve that the exile is greater than the jedis vader killed. The jedi he fought were powerful enough to survive order 66 and fight through dozens of clones.
8. Kay. Nihilus was beating 3 people, one of whom I can confidently say is a great Jedi with the power of a master, and beyond the ones Vader fought,
Again nothing special about the exile other than learning a few lightsaber forms quickly and being unable to master them as quickly as vader did
The council already stated the exile is an average jedi master .
Name me a few feats please, other than simply learning a few forms and being able to bond with people quickly
Oh by the way george lucas stated PT era jedi > Kotor jedi, he refers the PT jedi as "Prime of the jedi" in the revenge of the sith commentary
Meaning the jedi vader killed were alot stronger than the ones in kotor
Originally posted by Violent2DopeMurked them with the force, not a saber duel as we know shit about his dueling abilties.
and was winning, and this is while doubly weakened as I said, at full power he would have murked them.
Who is to say that the fight between him and the party was a saber duel? It could have been a force duel where visa and mandalore and exile are clearly surpassed seeing they got nothing impressive on them
And yes csdabest is an idiot, by the way how did he get my pm? I thought i messaged you
Originally posted by Manslayer1. A'ight then, I'll just take your word for it.
Because the ravager was pulled out prior to the sith civil war and at that time tobin was in onderon
No, she got stunned
If they suffered any damage at all it would have been made obvious. Again after the jedi civil war there are still sith warships in existence, namely those who didnt participate in the battle of rakata prime
Revan can seeing he is a very powerful force user
Your taking things out of context, if he kills people by talking, wouldnt that make him more powerful than sidious? Wouldnt mandalore die because he spoke?Again the comic clearly illustrates him draining the planet and not killing everything by "talking". He cuts them off the force causing them to die and feeds on the death it causes.
Prove that he kills people by speaking,
Visas said this when my master spoke, everything on katar died ,
She merely said that when he spoke, people began to die, That doesn't mean his words killed them, he could have communicated with them telepathically and then at the same time drained them.So if this guy says "When guy B spoke, Guy A dies" Does that mean Guy B killed Guy A by speaking? Considering the fact that he has a weapon in his hand?
Considering the fact that nihilus kills his victims by using his variant of the force sever technique?
Well if he did held the ship together while being alive, how come the ship stays intact after he dies when he can no longer control the ship?
Prove that the exile is greater than the jedis vader killed. The jedi he fought were powerful enough to survive order 66 and fight through dozens of clones.Again nothing special about the exile other than learning a few lightsaber forms quickly and being unable to master them as quickly as vader did
The council already stated the exile is an average jedi master .
Name me a few feats please, other than simply learning a few forms and being able to bond with people quickly
Oh by the way george lucas stated PT era jedi > Kotor jedi, he refers the PT jedi as "Prime of the jedi" in the revenge of the sith commentary
Meaning the jedi vader killed were alot stronger than the ones in kotor
Murked them with the force, not a saber duel as we know shit about his dueling abilties.
Who is to say that the fight between him and the party was a saber duel? It could have been a force duel where visa and mandalore and exile are clearly surpassed seeing they got nothing impressive on them
And yes csdabest is an idiot, by the way how did he get my pm? I thought i messaged you
2. And? Are you saying he couldn't have lobbed off her head with his saber while she was stunned?
3. Makes sense, I'll concede this point. Man it sucks that Nihilus supporters have so little to work with lol.
4. Revan, IMO, did have more knowledge in the Force, but Nihilus had greater power over it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not undermining Revan, he was of course powerful, and had many powerful attacks like the Thought Bomb. He is in the top 5 Sith for sure.
5. He actually DOES slowly Force Kill people by speaking, only to a much lesser extent, and my take on it is that he has control over when he uses its full power.
6. It blew up soon after Nihilus died, maybe it would take time to crumble.
7. The Exile WAS average, before she became a wound. Going by that logic, Vader is a weak little boy who would get pwned by Sebulba. Exile murked Kreia, who easily one shotted 3 Jedi Masters. Also, on the whole, yes, PT Jedi are stronger, but not EVERY PT Jedi is stronger than any KOTOR Jedi.
8. Yeah, unfortunately Nihilus' saber abilities are an unknown, he could have been average, or he could have been the best in the game, we don't know. Also, the Exile and her party started off close to Nihilus, he had to logically use his saber, tho how the fight went is also unknown.
9. I have no idea. I never got a pm.
Also, here is a bunch of info Nik put together.
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
The Lord Of Hunger[b]Powers of Darth Nihilus
"This ship… is it his weakness? It should not exist, yet it cruises the darkness between the stars. He tore it from the mass shadows of Malachor, along with his fleet… that is a measure of his power."
--TobinMandalore: [The Ravager] is barely holding itself together. The structural damage should have destroyed it long ago.
Tobin: He holds it together. And he keeps us all alive, just enough, like rotworms in a dying beast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EogIiuZI9PQ"When my Lord spoke, every living thing on Katarr died."
http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/6753/nihiluszx9.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/Nik_TehPimpXor/Nihilus2.jpgAdditional Info:
"The last Jedi conclave was on Katarr, a Miraluka colony. And all of Katarr was destroyed, all of the Jedi killed...Including Master Zhar...As we see, Nihilus easily tosses around a Jedi Master and his former tutor but that is not all.
What Traya later says happened to her:
"And there would be those, like me, who have had the Force stripped from them."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2bcS4uZWtYForce Choke
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wt4fwDx1lEAble to transfer his consciousness to other objects
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=646&page=070Nihilus vs. The Jedi Exile, The Mandalore and (his former) apprentice Visas Marr
First and foremost, what shape was Nihilus in prior to the fight with the Exile?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EogIiuZI9PQ
1:49
"The Master suffers... If he can not feed, then the hunger begins to consume him The planet Telos... He may feed on something upon its surface to sustain himself a while longer."
2:33
"[Kreia] spoke of the Jedi academy here on Telos...and my Master was forced to come here." -Tobin2:54
"If there are no Jedi here, then my Lord cannot feed his hunger. He will destroy the planet, the station... he will cleanse it of life. ...and if there are no Jedi below, he will have no other choice."So, the Exile, Visas and the Mandalore all proceed to the bridge of The Ravager and confront Nihilus in this condition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV8iniopJ3U
The subtitles aren’t in English but it’s the clearest vid I could find of this.
At 00:34, Nihilus stuns the Exile. The Exile and everyone else is at his mercy with no more than a gesture after turning around.
But he chooses not to. He chooses, because he “suffersâ€, to try and drain the Exile. (1:08) He then falls down before getting back up, withdrawing his saber and preparing to fight.
Jump to the end of the fight. After the Mandalore, Visas and the Exile have been assaulting him.
What were the results of that initial conflict?
Visas: “He... is too powerful...†(1:56)
So, the only canon account we have of how that first skirmish went was that apparently he was either beating the crap out of all of them or whatever they did had no effect. And this is him doubly weakened.
But yes, Nihilus does eventually lose the fight. If he had chosen to, however, he could have beaten the Exile in the first seconds of the fight. And the Exile overcame Nihilus with 2 assistants.
About Nihilus
His Power:
Kreia: it is a means of severing connections between life, the Force, and feeding upon the death it causes
(presumably what he did to Katarr)Kreia on Nihilus:
"One cannot have power of that magnitude and still think and perceive the universe as we do.""his mere presence kills all around him, slowly, feeding him."
Visas: I do not believe he knows his ship has been boarded. And if he did, he would not care. The extent of his power can not be put into words. And his perceptions have grown as well. To him...
Tobin: You are dust motes in a storm. A grain upon the beach and as insignificant as a body that orbits the graveyard of Malachor.
Canderous: If he’s so powerful, why hasn’t he stopped us, then?
Tobin: It is because he sees planets, stars...not people. To him, the planet below, the station with its teeming life, only that is massive enough to demand his attention.
Visas: He is a wound in the Force, more presence than flesh, and in his wake life dies… sacrificing itself to his hunger."
"You have taken this trophy from the remains of Darth Nihilus - it is the last surviving piece of the beast who died and was reborn in the shattered world of Malachor V.
Evil Never Dies: The Sith Lords says Nihilus is a Dark Lord of the Sith.
"Many times the title of "the last Dark Lord" has been erroneously applied. First the Dark Lord Naga Sadow, vanquished by the Galactic Republic in the Great Hyperspace War 5,000 years before the Battle of Yavin, was thought to be the last. Then a thousand years later, the fallen Jedi Exar Kun was considered the last of these dark siders' twisted kind. Then Darth Nihilus . . . then Lord Kaan . . . then Darth Vader."
NON-CANON/CUT CONTENT
Darth Nihilus owns Darth Sion
Originally posted by Manslayer
Settle this in the SW lietrature forum. Name the thread what ever you want
I don't have to. Unless you can tell me how Revan and Kun have force power comparable to draining the life out of a planet or telekinetically lifting a fleet including using TK to lift the Ravager out of Malachor 5 gravity well.
He already tramps them in dark side power, his TK is on another level to theirs. Kreia pretty much states that he's no longer a man but more like a force of nature. Of course Revan and Kun aren't on the same level in terms of power
As far as Tobin being a fallible third party source. Since when did stating the details of an event that happened in-universe become fallible? How can a fictional characters account on an in-universe EVENT be fallible?
And the only reason you state for making such an assertion is that, he wasn't there? How do you know? How do you know how Tobin acquired such knowledge? We don't even know when Nihilus lifted his fleet with TK.
Originally posted by Manslayer
And his "invulnerability " is only on dark side empowered world as he him self stated. And his "invulnerability" can be taken away by stronger willed and more powerful force users
Debatable, it's not relevant to this thread anyway.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeHe wanted to feed on her right?
1. A'ight then, I'll just take your word for it.2. And? Are you saying he couldn't have lobbed off her head with his saber while she was stunned?
Originally posted by Violent2DopeMore knowledge = more power and strength in the force
4. Revan, IMO, did have more knowledge in the Force, but Nihilus had greater power over it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not undermining Revan, he was of course powerful, and had many powerful attacks like the Thought Bomb. He is in the top 5 Sith for sure.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeThe weak minded ones yea but the jedi and the mandalorians? No
5. He actually DOES slowly Force Kill people by speaking, only to a much lesser extent, and my take on it is that he has control over when he uses its full power.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeAgain because of the bombs, if the ship were really held together and if it would fall to pieces, then the exile wouldn't need to plant the bombs in the first place
6. It blew up soon after Nihilus died, maybe it would take time to crumble.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeThe "weak little boy" wasnt even a jedi yet so your point holds no water
7. The Exile WAS average, before she became a wound. Going by that logic, Vader is a weak little boy who would get pwned by Sebulba.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeKreia easily shotted 3 inferior jedi whom arent even powerful.
Exile murked Kreia, who easily one shotted 3 Jedi Masters. Also, on the whole, yes, PT Jedi are stronger, but not EVERY PT Jedi is stronger than any KOTOR Jedi.
And the fight between kreia and exile could have been a very very hard one, So because exile beats kreia = she > vader? This has been settled long before on SWV, Vader wtf owns the exile seeing that she never does anything with the force
Originally posted by Violent2DopeAgain we dont know shit about his ability so no point argueing
8. Yeah, unfortunately Nihilus' saber abilities are an unknown, he could have been average, or he could have been the best in the game, we don't know. Also, the Exile and her party started off close to Nihilus, he had to logically use his saber, tho how the fight went is also unknown.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeYou just repeated what he said and i refuted it, so no point using other peoples arguement unless you own one stands
Also, here is a bunch of info Nik put together.
Originally posted by AllanklesAgain prove that nihilus lifted a fleet, he was never at malachor when nihilus lifted his ship out, The reason why you dont want to set a thread in the star wars section is because you get your ass handed by darth sexy on a constant basis about this issue
I don't have to. Unless you can tell me how Revan and Kun have force power comparable to draining the life out of a planet or telekinetically lifting a fleet including using TK to lift the Ravager out of Malachor 5 gravity well.
Originally posted by AllanklesSettle this in the EU thread if you dare. You said you dont have to for fear of severe pwnage by darth sexy and gideon
He already tramps them in dark side power, his TK is on another level to theirs. Kreia pretty much states that he's no longer a man but more like a force of nature. Of course Revan and Kun aren't on the same level in terms of powerof Malachor 5 gravity well.
Originally posted by AllanklesBecause simply he wasnt there you frickin hypocrite, you are so fond of b!tching how fallible kreia is and now you contradict your self by saying since when an in universe source became fallible?
As far as Tobin being a fallible third party source. Since when did stating the details of an event that happened in-universe become fallible? How can a fictional characters account on an in-universe EVENT be fallible?
Really? Then i guess the rodian in kotor statement of exar kun being the most poweful sith lord must be 100% true going by what you said
Originally posted by AllanklesBecause nihilus lifted his flagship as the loading screen said prior to K2 where TOBIN IS IN ONDERON? So how could he have seen him lifting his flaship?
And the only reason you state for making such an assertion is that, he wasn't there? How do you know?
Name me an out of universe source which says he lifted a fleet rather than an fallible third party character, now
Originally posted by AllanklesCorrection, its ship not a fleet. And yes we DO have a slight idea of when he lifted his ship, certeinly before he even met tobin, prior to Kotor 2 when tobin has never even met the guy
How do you know how Tobin acquired such knowledge? We don't even know when Nihilus lifted his fleet with TK.
Again the sith warships in telos ARE NOT damaged, meaning if they were actually in the gravity well the exterior damage WOULD have been obvious, heres a screen to prove it
^ The sith interdictors are not damaged thus they couldnt have been in the gravity well which WILL show obvious exterior damage. Just to remind you there are warships who survived the star forge battle and those could have been the one
Originally posted by Manslayer1. Yeah he wanted to feed on her, and this helps my point, even while already weakened,he would have EASILY killed her, but his starvation forced him to try and Force Kill her, and it backfired, which weakened him further.
He wanted to feed on her right?More knowledge = more power and strength in the force
The weak minded ones yea but the jedi and the mandalorians? No
Again because of the bombs, if the ship were really held together and if it would fall to pieces, then the exile wouldn't need to plant the bombs in the first place
The "weak little boy" wasnt even a jedi yet so your point holds no water
Kreia easily shotted 3 inferior jedi whom arent even powerful.And the fight between kreia and exile could have been a very very hard one, So because exile beats kreia = she > vader? This has been settled long before on SWV, Vader wtf owns the exile seeing that she never does anything with the force
Again we dont know shit about his ability so no point argueingYou just repeated what he said and i refuted it, so no point using other peoples arguement unless you own one stands
2. Feats>Speculation, Revan was more knowledgable, sure, but Nihilus has by far the better feats of Force power. He is also stronger in the Dark Side.
3. Well, I don't know if weak minded would be the right word, more like people who have no experience with Force users. But it still helps the point that he speaks to do it.
4. Faulty logic. How the hell was the Exile supposed to know Nihilus kept it together? She never has seen Nihilus or his ship, and Visas either didn't tell her or she had no clue herself, due to being blind.
5. And the Exile is no longer an average Jedi. Inferior? What makes you call them inferior? Vrook wielded the Ataru, Shien, Niman, and Juyo saber forms, and was skilled at using the advanced Force forms as well, and was different among most Jedi in that he masters Force Lightning. Zez-Kai-Ell used a dual bladed saber, and used Ataru, Juyo, Shien, and Niman, and mastered advanced Force forms. Kavar fought with two sabers(Jar'Kai), one was normal, the other short, and used Niman, Ataru, Juyo, and Shien, and also mastered advanced Force forms, and was so skilled at Force Stun he could use it on multiple opponents. He was a famed Jedi Guardian, and the Mandalorians thot he would have been the one to lead the Jedi to war. Out of the 4 Jedi you are talking about, only Drallig and Keto are even worth 2 shits, the other were fodder for Vader.
6. Stop twisting my words. I never said Exile>Vader, and Exile is much weaker than Nihilus as well. Nihilus was doubly weakened, and fought three people, was winning half the fight, til he eventually fell.
7. Wasn't arguing. just said his saber skills are unknown.
8. I actually was just taking that from the Nihilus respect thread, which happened to be made by Nik.
Originally posted by Violent2DopePoint? The fact is the exile is nothing special and so is nihilus, what indicates he would have killed her easily?
1. Yeah he wanted to feed on her, and this helps my point, even while already weakened,he would have EASILY killed her, but his starvation forced him to try and Force Kill her, and it backfired, which weakened him further.
Originally posted by Violent2Dopeknowledge = power, Sidious mastered every technique and along with that his connection to the force hence he is dubbed "The most powerful sith lord in history"
2. Feats>Speculation, Revan was more knowledgable, sure, but Nihilus has by far the better feats of Force power. He is also stronger in the Dark Side.
Prove nihilus is stronger in the dark side seeing that the only thing he ever does is drain and TK as opposed to revan who could use dark side energies from dark side empowered worlds to corrupt jedi and turn him to his side
Originally posted by Violent2DopeSorry, obi wan states the force effects the weak minded greatly
3. Well, I don't know if weak minded would be the right word, more like people who have no experience with Force users. But it still helps the point that he speaks to do it.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeAgain prove to me that its nihilus will who kept the ship together seeing that after he dies, the ship stays intact.
4. Faulty logic. How the hell was the Exile supposed to know Nihilus kept it together? She never has seen Nihilus or his ship, and Visas either didn't tell her or she had no clue herself, due to being blind.
Faulty logic? Hell yea you have
Originally posted by Violent2DopeProve it
5. And the Exile is no longer an average Jedi.
Inferior? What makes you call them inferior? Vrook wielded the Ataru, Shien, Niman, and Juyo saber forms,
[/B][/QUOTE] Prove that knowing many forms equates you to a powerful force user. Right cin drallig and kasim mastered every lightsaber form to its highest degree and guess what happens in the end?
Cin gets tooled by anakin and kasim gets annihilated by bane.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeGameplay mechanic, any source to back this up? No, other than non-canon gameplay
and was skilled at using the advanced Force forms as well,
Originally posted by Violent2DopeLol? A jedi mastered dark side force lightning? LOL back up your claims
and was different among most Jedi in that he masters Force Lightning.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeSo? Using a dual bladed saber doesnt mean shit, vader still could contend with the reborn darth maul in a pure saber duel. Just because you wield a double bladed lightsaber, it doesnt mean shit
Zez-Kai-Ell used a dual bladed saber,
Originally posted by Violent2DopeAgain that doesnt mean shit when he hasnt done anything remarkable with lightsaber dueling and the force, theres nothing to even indicate he is at the least an above average force user
and used Ataru, Juyo, Shien, and Niman, and mastered advanced Force forms.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeAgain so what? Anakin as of AOTC used jar kai against count dooku and gets owned again.
Kavar fought with two sabers(Jar'Kai), one was normal, the other short, and used Niman, Ataru, Juyo, and Shien, and also mastered advanced Force forms,
Originally posted by Violent2DopeAnd exar kun could stun hundreds and thousands of senators on coruscant during the sith war, stunning people doesnt mean shit
and was so skilled at Force Stun he could use it on multiple opponents.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeSo? Doesnt mean he is a strong force user
He was a famed Jedi Guardian,
Originally posted by Violent2DopeSerra keto is nothing but a piece of shit whom vader annihilates her when he brought down a pillar on her. Just to remind you the average force users of the PT era > kotor era.
and the Mandalorians thot he would have been the one to lead the Jedi to war. Out of the 4 Jedi you are talking about, only Drallig and Keto are even worth 2 shits, the other were fodder for Vader.
Bulter swan, sialan wezz them selves were able to participate and survive the ravaging clone wars whom is even more dangerous and lethel than what the jedi civil war was like. They were generals on the battle field.
Oh and to back that up, other than PT jedi >>> kotor jedi, Sidious states in RODV that in the order of tens and thousands of jedi during the PT, Most of them are not even half as powerful as suited vader save for mace and yoda who surpasses him
Originally posted by Violent2DopeVisas merely says "hes too strog", that doesnt mean they were losing the fight
6. Stop twisting my words. I never said Exile>Vader, and Exile is much weaker than Nihilus as well. Nihilus was doubly weakened, and fought three people, was winning half the fight, til he eventually fell.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeWhich darth sexy had the liberty of shredding it to pieces
8. I actually was just taking that from the Nihilus respect thread, which happened to be made by Nik.
Originally posted by Manslayer
Obvious for a ff7 fanboy to say. I can rip that to pieces but i choose not to
Just like your a SW fanboy?
And i'm a KH fan
And V2D's a Ganon fanboy
What's your point? all fans of something, damn proud of it too.
So if you can, do it, if not, shut up and stop bashing other people
Originally posted by Remindme
Just like your a SW fanboy?And i'm a KH fan
And V2D's a Ganon fanboy
What's your point? all fans of something, damn proud of it too.
So if you can, do it, if not, shut up and stop bashing other people
i cant belive it man!! you missed out me being a Kain fanboy.... 😠 crybaby
