Apokolips vs Thanos

Originally posted by Desaad
What I mean is, if Quanchi did a better debating job in Soljer's estimation, shouldn't soljer have voted for Quanchi?

Exactly. He's just saying that to be a bother to me. One reason why I wont' do any more battle zone's with him as judge.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
For the record, he actually didn't. he stuck to one failed attempt at using superman. to which I diffused from the onset. As if.. Had he did a much better job, he should have won. period.

Originally posted by Desaad
What I mean is, if Quanchi did a better debating job in Soljer's estimation, shouldn't soljer have voted for Quanchi?

Not necessarily.

You can debate much much better than I do with, say, Daredevil.

If I'm representing Captain Marvel, it doesn't really matter how well you debate.

Originally posted by quanchi112
But come on now you know he and Warlock have always respected each other and have worked together before to take on gret evil. He most certainly could have adam warlock and the infinity watchs support. He did in the infinity war and the crusade and there are others to. So I could most defnitely make a case for him to be an ally of Thanos in this situation. So I could bring dumb drax into play here. Warlock wouldnt screw him over and Darkseid is more of a villain than Thanos is anymore. So of course he would help Thanos here as he has in the past. I know I m going to have t bring up Thanos early appearances a lot. I actually could get terrax to maybe. Oh this could get interesting.

There you go; you can certainly make those arguments, and thats fine with me 100%.

Whats more, you could extrapolate things we've seen Thanos successfully do into a war situation.

So if he's created a replica of Death's throne for himself, you might argue that he creates a number of them for use of his elite or something.

This is the fun of a debate like this; the possibilities are limitless, if you are willing to do your research and argue them.

Soljer thinks Darkseid is more powerful than Thanos thats why he gave nver the vote. I wanted to change soljers mind but his opinion stayed the same pretty much. Im glad to hear he thought I outdid nver though. in terms of debating.

Originally posted by Soljer
Not necessarily.

You can debate much much better than I do with, say, Daredevil.

If I'm representing Captain Marvel, it doesn't really matter how well you debate.

But if I bring up examples of Daredevil taking on Captain Marvel level foes, and Captain Marvel losing to Daredevil level foes (Or, even, below Daredevil level foes) then certainly that is what you mean by "being a better debater", ie creating better and more convincing arguments, no?

And certainly I would win that debate, wouldn't I?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Soljer thinks Darkseid is more powerful than Thanos thats why he gave nver the vote. I wanted to change soljers mind but his opinion stayed the same pretty much. Im glad to hear he thought I outdid nver though. in terms of debating.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Soljer thinks Darkseid is more powerful than Thanos thats why he gave nver the vote. I wanted to change soljers mind but his opinion stayed the same pretty much. Im glad to hear he thought I outdid nver though. in terms of debating.

I see.

So it is less a measure of debating skill, and more a measure of who would win in a fight. Fighting against inherent opinion then.

Originally posted by Desaad
There you go; you can certainly make those arguments, and thats fine with me 100%.

Whats more, you could extrapolate things we've seen Thanos successfully do into a war situation.

So if he's created a replica of Death's throne for himself, you might argue that he creates a number of them for use of his elite or something.

This is the fun of a debate like this; the possibilities are limitless, if you are willing to do your research and argue them.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
h0w in the hell did you win? I kept up the precept that DS is more powerful than DS.

There is that 162 IQ I keep hearing about.

Originally posted by Desaad
But if I bring up examples of Daredevil taking on Captain Marvel level foes, and Captain Marvel losing to Daredevil level foes (Or, even, below Daredevil level foes) then certainly that is what you mean by "being a better debater", ie creating better and more convincing arguments, no?

And certainly I would win that debate, wouldn't I?

Not if the CM foes that daredevil fought jobbered, injured themselves, or DD had gotten powerups during the fights. And CM losing to DD foes is acceptible if Daredevil foes had certain plot graces.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Soljer thinks Darkseid is more powerful than Thanos thats why he gave nver the vote. I wanted to change soljers mind but his opinion stayed the same pretty much. Im glad to hear he thought I outdid nver though. in terms of debating.

Make it a physical fight, and Thanos walks all over him - for the record.

Even in a straight up fight, I felt that it was a close victory either way.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This one will really make you think. Its going to be really fun now that I think about it. But its tentative for december. It will happen let me just clear my head a bit after my ww hulk vs thor debate. I always get myself into these debates where i feel like the underdog based on who im representing on kmc here.

I gotta say, with the way that Darkseid is manipulating things in Countdown right now, I am going to have a fun new showing of strategic intelligence to bring to the table.

The way he is manipulating these disparate threads is downright ridiculous.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
h0w in the hell did you win? I kept up the precept that DS is more powerful than DS. That was the goal. So I won.

But really lets drop it. Its over.

Originally posted by Desaad
There is that 162 IQ I keep hearing about.

Is there a point? You know, Fifty cent made a career for himself by going after other entertainers. George Bush was masterful at using 911 to start a war over in Iraq. Reagan was wonderful as using racist undertones to push his agenda. Now hear about that.

Let me also add that this is something of an extended challenge to anyone out there. I'd be happy to debate this same topic with others of you.

Originally posted by Desaad
I gotta say, with the way that Darkseid is manipulating things in Countdown right now, I am going to have a fun new showing of strategic intelligence to bring to the table.

The way he is manipulating these disparate threads is downright ridiculous.

😖hifty:

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again its over you won in the judges minds but one judge felt i did a better job debating than you did. He shared your opinion and it isnt like you swayed him to your side. So drop it. Again in my mind I felt I won and its great hearing soljer say that i did a better job.

But really lets drop it. Its over.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Is there a point? You know, Fifty cent made a career for himself by going after other entertainers. George Bush was masterful at using 911 to start a war over in Iraq. Reagan was wonderful as using racist undertones to push his agenda. Now hear about that.

Am I supposed to be dazzled by the above display of intelligence?

Jesus, you are three years old.

Originally posted by Desaad
Let me also add that this is something of an extended challenge to anyone out there. I'd be happy to debate this same topic with others of you.