Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Did I ever comment that I believed that Wolverine's punch alone was what caused Thor pain?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Haha. Then what the hell do Wolverine fans consider a straight shot? Let me guess, when he tears a character to shreds, it's a straight shot?http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/wolvie_thor3.jpg
Here he strikes Thor's face directly.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/WolverineCutBarely1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/WolverineCutBarely2.jpgHow the hell do you not consider that as a straight shot?
When Wolverine's swinging his arms accross his torso or heaving them upwards into the air how the hell can you then concluded he was attempting at stabbing attack...? 😕
Anyone with even a passing familiarity with fight should be able to understand the difference between something akin to a jab and a hook, no?
I don't consider that intial attack a straight shot because Wolverine's arm is so ridiculously overextended in front of his own torso that it shouldn't even be worth arguing.... (shouldn't be) His arm is shooting all the way across his face directly from left to right. Given which direction Thor's face is then rolling its quite clearly an attack that was intended to land accross.... That's not a straight shot, it's a swipe.. Wolverine took a swipe at Thor and that's the most logical conclussion to be reached for all parties involved. 😬
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Okay I'm confused. You were apparently mocking the believe that it was punches from Wolverine that caused Thor pain yet here your claiming that Wolverine didn't stab Thor? Then what did he do? Punch him? There aren't a lot of options here. You were just mocking that very stance by the way.http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/wolvie_thor5.jpg
It's pretty damn obvious that Wolverine attempted to stab Thor. His very movement suggests that. Who punches like that? And it would follow along with the comic exactly.
But the bottem line is that from all appearances Wolverine didn't stab Thor. There's no blood lines coming off Thor's back which is inconsistent with the black blotches we see in the rest of the comic, Wolverine's claws are mysteriously sheethed after Thor hits him, there's no tear in Thor's cape, or evidence of a wound on his back (a shot we're treated to immediately after that attack), and at the end Thor's more converned with the grazing shots Wolverine landed on him but not the stab wounds? How the hell does that make any sense?
Again from appearances Wolverine pounced on Thor. Thor's response was likely either out of surprise, frustration or a combination of both. Though there's a slight possibility that Wolverine's pouncing on Thor's weightless body caused his torso to contort enough to agitate the already existing wounds.
Stabbing thor obvious? Yeah, exept for the part where he didn't do it. I mean seriously.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You get a comic where Thor's obviously watered down and there entire point of the comic seems to be just to show that Wolverine can break Thor's skin and still you aren't satisfied..
I understand WHY you want to make Thor look better than he is but what part of that was a demonstration of him being watered down?
God this is just like the whole Neferia deal. The guy goes down to the New Avengers and in spite of him being in the comic to validate the NA compared to older team, in spite of him even making a reference to Thor.... Wolverine brought him to knee..... soooooooo.... He's depowered....
As far as "breaking the skin"
Lol if that's what you got from that.... Lordy... I don't know what to say.
Thor was coddling his wounds hunched over at the end of the fight, Wolverine did that damage through his bullet proof armor, and Thor even stated flat out that what durability he had wasn't going to do him good for very long after a whopping two swiping attacks were landed.... 😐
What do you think he was afraid Wolverine would do? Wear his durability down?
I'm not satisified with the typical KMC interpretation of the fight which basically discredits Wolverine and makes his opponent looks more formidable... in this case Thor... making an argument that Thor is resistant to Adamantium claws to a degree surpassing his peers.... It's a frustrating argument to see posted around here when Wolverine has stabbed people as durable as Thor many times, or when every evidence of Thor outside of 616 also has him being severely damaged by Wolverine's claws.
How anyone can look at that fight and claim that Wolverine can only scratch Thor or that he landed straight lined head on attacks..... well it's absurd.
Originally posted by jinzin
There's no blood lines coming off Thor's back which is inconsistent with the black blotches we see in the rest of the comic (...)
Actually, if you look carefully, you'll notice four black botches.
Funny, I remember myself arguing with Rage about that. He was just as sure as you that Logan didn't stab him 🙂
Originally posted by jinzin
those dots? Meh... I guess that COULD be blood... but it looks more like FX coinciding with the motion lines coming off Wolverine's arms... What about all the other inconsistencies?
Dots and smears. Same smears that appeared when Logan did cut him for sure.
Well, it is fairly ambiguous. Maybe Wolverine was supposed to just cut his back? Hard to say what is artist's error and what isn't. Thor's shown good durability in that comic. Enough to resist a stabbing attempt from Logan? Probably not. I'd be inclined to say it was an incredible damage soak feat, but then we have Thor being more concerned about those cuts Logan made on the beginning of their fight... I really don't know what to think about that. Would like to read the script.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWuse some common sense willya...thor obviously was very worried about logan's claws which indicates that logan can gravely injure thor given the right opportunity
Dots and smears. Same smears that appeared when Logan did cut him for sure.Well, it is fairly ambiguous. Maybe Wolverine was supposed to just cut his back? Hard to say what is artist's error and what isn't. Thor's shown good durability in that comic. Enough to resist a stabbing attempt from Logan? Probably not. I'd be inclined to say it was an incredible damage soak feat, but then we have Thor being more concerned about those cuts Logan made on the beginning of their fight... I really don't know what to think about that. Would like to read the script.
Originally posted by Starscream M
use some common sense willya...thor obviously was very worried about logan's claws which indicates that logan can gravely injure thor given the right opportunity
He was seeing Sabretooth, not Thor. These two aren't exactly the same height and bulk, so he could have missed the vital areas.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Dots and smears. Same smears that appeared when Logan did cut him for sure.Well, it is fairly ambiguous. Maybe Wolverine was supposed to just cut his back? Hard to say what is artist's error and what isn't. Thor's shown good durability in that comic. Enough to resist a stabbing attempt from Logan? Probably not. I'd be inclined to say it was an incredible damage soak feat, but then we have Thor being more concerned about those cuts Logan made on the beginning of their fight... I really don't know what to think about that. Would like to read the script.
Yeah that's just it... it's confusingly ambiguous... of course it would be easier to tell just what the hell was going on if the FX weren't equally/moreso ambiguous.... something about black lightning swirling around Logan's attacks is just.... wierd. 😐
Wonder if they had to keep the gore down due to it being more easily accessible via online.
