National Socialism

Originally posted by Zebedee
I see. Why did anyone want to do that?

Must have sucked to have been Jewish. You're not jewish are you? If your not I guess you'd have been fine?

I'm not going to feed you. I'm fully aware of the other groups involved in the holocaust. And I'm certainly aware that I would have been among those sent off to the camps, despite not being Jewish.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Actually, the idea of Israel came before WW1, during the time of the Ottoman Empire. Also, them profiting from the War is still bad, and where did the money from the dead people go?

The idea of Israel has been around for a long time. But the idea of Israel isn't my point. Why it was finally established is, however.

And a lot of the wealth from the camp inmates is still sitting in numbered Swiss bank accounts.

Originally posted by Devil King
I'm not going to feed you. I'm fully aware of the other groups involved in the holocaust. And I'm certainly aware that I would have been among those sent off to the camps, despite not being Jewish.

W-what? W-who? W-why?

D-d-d-d-d-did I stud-d-d-d-d-der?

Originally posted by Devil King
D-d-d-d-d-did I stud-d-d-d-d-der?

Y-yes

Originally posted by Devil King
I'm not going to feed you. I'm fully aware of the other groups involved in the holocaust. And I'm certainly aware that I would have been among those sent off to the camps, despite not being Jewish.

The idea of Israel has been around for a long time. But the idea of Israel isn't my point. Why it was finally established is, however.

And a lot of the wealth from the camp inmates is still sitting in numbered Swiss bank accounts.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Israel came about due to Zionist terrorists forcing the UK out. Truman and Attlee then made the agreement of Israel, under the "returning to home" thing. Which is a lie. All or most israelis come from the Khazars, a tribe who converted to Judaism. The Khazars never even set foot in Palestine!

The specifics, however, are clearly not my point. But they're not my point because they clearly don't matter to the "Zionists", either. We can slice and dice the specifics of muslim history and diversity the same way.

Originally posted by Devil King
The specifics, however, are clearly not my point. But they're not my point because they clearly don't matter to the "Zionists", either. We can slice and dice the specifics of muslim history and diversity the same way.

Originally posted by lord xyz
That has too much association with anti-semitism. Also, not to sound ignorant, but was Hitler really a socialist?

Nazi is short for National Socialist.

Besides, you can be a Nationalist and still a Socialist...look at Ho Chi Min.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Nazi is short for National Socialist.

Besides, you can be a Nationalist and still a Socialist...look at Ho Chi Min.

That could be because...they are the same thing...

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
That could be because...they are the same thing...

Originally posted by Bardock42
It wasn't available in other forms on Wikipedia.

I suppose the simple refers to the skill of the translator not the reader.

And they called themselves National Socialist German Workers Party.

They are the National Socialists. To call them that makes sense....since that's what they are.

Originally posted by Bardock42
However, in other parts of the world, which had little contact with German Nazism, the term "National Socialism" is sometimes used by parties that define themselves as socialist and patriotic, without being racist. In addition, the term was also used by non-racist groups in Europe before the rise of Nazism"

Wikipedia.

I said that didn't I?

I believe I mentioned Ho Chi Min

No, you said a Nationalist can be a Socialist, you didn't say National Socialists aren't Nazis. Infact, you argued they were.

They are...

However, your argument that Nazis are not National Socialist is very misinformed. I think what you actually mean is that while Nazis were National Socialists there are also National Socialists who are very different from the Nazi Party of Germany in the thirties and forties.

This is a correct view, however your view that Nazis are not National Socialist is not...(FYI Hitler was big on privatization)

...Try reading again.

Originally posted by lord xyz
That matter has been debated earlier in the thread, and has been confirmed by the opposing side that they are NOT the same thing.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav

However, in other parts of the world, which had little contact with German Nazism, the term "National Socialism" is sometimes used by parties that define themselves as socialist and patriotic, without being racist. In addition, the term was also used by non-racist groups in Europe before the rise of Nazism"

Wikipedia.

while Nazis were National Socialists there are also National Socialists who are very different from the Nazi Party of Germany in the thirties and forties.

This is a correct view

That is my point. Look, your side is saying this! How can you argue against me?

Your arguing against me, you keep saying Nazis are not National Socialists when you should be saying (by your own admission)

Nazis were National Socialists there are also National Socialists who are very different from the Nazi Party of Germany in the thirties and forties.