Classic Molecule Man vs Ultimator and all of 5d Imps

Originally posted by Astner
Wow, you really have high thoughts about yourself ...

Sigmund Freud would explain it with the defense mechanism known as "identification".

I actually just have low thoughts of most everyone else. Figure it out. Freud my have been the father of modern psychology, but many of his theories have thus been disproven or revised.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Freud my have been the father of modern psychology, but many of his theories have thus been disproven or revised.

If you're at work, do what you're supose to get payed for.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I"m at work right now dont' have it. Give me a feat,and page number and i'll try to find it on the net. He creates a multiverse on panel? He destroys one on panel? I dont' remember that happening.

Originally posted by Astner
Actually Freud is only the father of one aspect known as the psychodynamic perspective.

If you're at work, do what you're supose to get payed for.

I'm the president. I pay myself. Only the board is over me and they are very happy with the results I yield. Right now I have an accountant here and he's going over some books. I'm just here to clarify anything should the need arise.

Originally posted by Air Legend
This proves you have no clue what you are debating against. You are simply lying about a character in a comic book that you have never read.

Air? Lying about? SO have I said the molecule man hasn't destroyed any multiverses? YOu are the one who's lying becuz I have read pretty much every major cross over with the exception of a few. And I read the secret wars when they both came out. Haven't touched them since. So i'm going off of memory. And my memory says that the molecule man never created nor destroyed any multiverses. Let alone universes. Now all the insulting aside, just tell me the feats and pages of him doing so so I can find them myself. I have no problem saying I was wrong if you tell me the issue numbers and pages of him doing those feats.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
[B] Now explain your way out of that .

He was PART of the multiverse.
Having no authority outside of it's reaches becuz that was the beyonder's wrealm.

Now, He has authority over all of that.

LT is still "Part" of the Omniverse today, as he was "Part" of the Multiverse then.

Btw Nvr,
you seem to think the Omniverse blossomed as soon as Beyonder was retconned,
and that's not so.

In Nov. of 86' the New Universe was created
(first Reality outside of the 616 Multiverse besides the Beyonder's)

There was still no multiple Multiversal Omniverse at this point,
and it remained that way till 92',
when the idea of multiple MultiverseS was presented in Quasar.

In 1990, Beyonder was officially retconned,
and the Space he once encompassed (everything outside the Prime Multiverse today)
was retconned into a Universe no bigger than an Aspect of Eternity.
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My point is, that Marvel didn't just automatically convert
the original Beyond Realm into the rest of the Omniverse,
it was imagined as a gradual process from Universe, to Multiverse,
to single Realities (like the New Universe) outside the Multiverse,
to another Multiverse (the one that houses the Ultraverse reality)
to multiple MultiverseS, to the Omniverse.

Which is all in balance with the timetable of Universal expansion.

Now unless stated or depicted on panel or in an official bio,

LT's power has not, and does not increase with the natural expansion of the Marvel universe.
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Sis-Neg ... the cat who re-created all of Marvel back in 1972
is credited with re-creating the SAME Marvel that the
Alien Entity (in 2006), Entropy(in 2002) & Thanos/THOTI(in 2003) re-created.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe

And as we know,
Alien Entity, Entropy & Thanos/THOTI recreated the Marvel reality now as an Omniverse.
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What does this tell us?

The Marvel Reality is Marvel the Reality, regardless of the size.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Let's for one look over some things.

The LT absorbed Protege did he not?

THat is a power up right there if I ever saw one.

The LT absobed Protege with the help of Scathan,
and by using the Ancient One's Amulet as an external powersource.

And no where on panel or in any bio,
is it stated that LT developed a power up from the experience.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Two, The LT cannot always act unless his faces are in agreement.

1. Which has nothing to do with Protege copying LT's power,
2. with Scathan being equal to the LT
3. with Reed's mind getting the better of the LT
4. with Korvac having to be dealt with indirectly, instead of directly.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Let's also look at this. The LT was stated to be part of the multiverse. He had no authority or power over anything of the beyonder wrealm. The LT is shown holding two megaverse, which would have to be part of what once was the beyonder wrealm, since they are both far larger than the 616 multiverse. How can the LT have the POWER over such as in he's shown actually holding them in his hands, and in secret wars had no power over the beyonder wrealm in any part.

The Beyond Realm has nothing to do with the rest of the Omniverse today.

The Beyond Realm was bigger than the Omniverse of today if we look at it technically.
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ie.

The Omniverse has 100s (most probably) maybe 1000s of MultiverseS.

If we placed MultiverseS within the Beyond Realm,
you'd get a number somewhere in the Quintillions.

Mole Man wins.

Who the hell made up this thread? How does molecule man beat everything and ALL 5 D imps? What the hell? Even DC Says that Mr. Mxy has near omniptent powers. This is overkill. Imps and Ultimator.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Who the hell made up this thread? How does molecule man beat everything and ALL 5 D imps? What the hell? Even DC Says that Mr. Mxy has near omniptent powers. This is overkill. Imps and Ultimator.

Originally posted by Astner
The Living Tribunal feared, so it would only be nautral if the imps did the same.

Originally posted by fangirl101
It's power would include any power the molecule man had since it's everything.

Originally posted by Galan007
They're from DIFFERENT f*cking companies.
For christ sake. srsly

why are you swearing? The Rules say the characters are in a neutral zone. And you mean to tell me that molecule man would be more powerful than everything in DC? How can anyone beat everything unless they are God? Or someone with power given by God to rule over everything?

lol wut

Originally posted by fangirl101
And you mean to tell me that molecule man would be more powerful than everything in DC?

Originally posted by Galan007
Cuz I leik TOTALLY sayed dat, rite? dur

Well you cussed. And made it seem as if the molecule man would pwn the combined power of the DCM. There was no need to swear. I was assuming that if all combatant are meeting on a neutral ground, then thier powers would count that way. And since the Ultimator was Everything, then anyone he fought who wasn't above everything, would lose.

In a neutral zone, where they represent the powers they've potrayed.
Judging by Ultimator's lack of knowledge I doubt that he represents the Presnece, the Source, the Hand, the Voice or even the Spectre.

Originally posted by Astner
In a neutral zone, where they represent the powers they've potrayed.
Judging by Ultimator's lack of knowledge I doubt that he represents the Presnece, the Source, the Hand, the Voice or even the Spectre.

Originally posted by fangirl101
And made it seem as if the molecule man would pwn the combined power of the DCM.