Classic Molecule Man vs Ultimator and all of 5d Imps

Started by Violent2Dope26 pages

Originally posted by Air Legend
Ok so this confirms that you agree that LT is greater than DC's fifth and 10th dimension. Yet Classic MM is greater than the LT and you say they outnumber him? What gives?
Oh. Now I feel stupid.

Originally posted by Galan007
Why can't regular forum Mods ban people?

It would makes things SO much easier.

A better question would be:

"Why can't Bran ban people?"

Now that would make a great forum, let me tell you!

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And yet, The beyonder wasn't so powerful as to be the creator of the marvel multiverse. He also wasn't all knowing. Things to which the LT certainly is portrayed to be. And this is the point, You can't use classic MM's standings and status as more powerful than that version of the LT and then justify classic MM"s power to the CURRENT showings of the LT. In this case, we must go SOLELY on what classic MM did on panel. Which isn't much.
Repairing Multiversal damage maybe? Also, Lt has been constant, you said it yourself, he has NEVER been retconned, he has stayed the same, so Classic MM and Beyonder are stronger.

Originally posted by pr1983
yes, because the whining of a person who thinks they have the right to bash others is going to worry me...

get over yourself.


You still haven't proved how my post was bashing others. And if you do prove it , you'll have to give others in this thread, and other threads for that matter, warnings due to the enormous amount of bashing going on in this forum (you're doing it too) because you claim to be unbiased 🙂.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Repairing Multiversal damage maybe? Also, Lt has been constant, you said it yourself, he has NEVER been retconned, he has stayed the same, so Classic MM and Beyonder are stronger.

I want you to think of it like this, If The LT has remained unretconned, That would mean he has ALWAYS been 2nd only to god. Since the MM never showed any power remotely close to the LT's, then It would stand to reason that the omnipotent LT knew the outcome of the secret wars and thus, did not act. As a matter of fact, when the panel talks about reece knowing he is the most powerful guy in the multiverse, it's going by his own knowlege. Reece of course had no idea the true power of the LT. Repairing multiveral dmg is childs play to the LT. Even mr. mxy has destroyed several on panel. and then just put them all back.

Or you know, Secret Wars has been ret-conned into an illusion of sorts... which would be irrelevant to LT's power...

Originally posted by Air Legend
You still haven't proved how my post was bashing others. And if you do prove it , you'll have to give others in this thread, and other threads for that matter, warnings due to the enormous amount of bashing going on in this forum (you're doing it too) because you claim to be unbiased 🙂.

yes, because your accusations are really going to bother me...

you bashed him and you know it, so i'd stop trying to make excuses if i was you.

and this:

there is nothing wrong with saying it's all about making fun of nvr because people do it all the time and I don't see you harrasing any of them.

It's pretty clear to me that you're just saying this to me because of what I said in the Superman vs WWH thread (seeing how you love Superman so much).

basically says you endorse bashing and are annoyed because someone called you on it...

and truth be told, i dont even remember you posting in the superman wwh thread...

if nvr has a problem, he reports it, and the mods take whatever action is neccessary...

if i was such a terrible member going around bashing people, i wouldnt have that big Moderator title under my name... so again, your argument carries no weight.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Or you know, Secret Wars has been ret-conned into an illusion of sorts... which would be irrelevant to LT's power...

That's why it's a "RET-CON". The reason they were ret-conned was cause some dick deemed them "too powerful".

Originally posted by Violent2Dope

That's why it's a "RET-CON". The reason they were ret-conned was cause some dick deemed them "too powerful".

And yet, if they were retconned, that would mean that the LT was in some way affected by said retcon. Which would mean there are two versions of the LT. A dream version or pre retcon version, and a post retcon version.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I want you to think of it like this,
If The LT has remained unretconned,
That would mean he has ALWAYS been 2nd only to god.

Not concerning classic Beyonder.

Pre-retcon Beyonder or MM > any LT (actually, the one and only LT)

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Since the MM never showed any power remotely close to the LT's,
then It would stand to reason that the omnipotent LT knew the outcome of the secret wars and thus, did not act.

This isn't true, not one word of it.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
As a matter of fact, when the panel talks about reece knowing he is the most powerful guy in the multiverse, it's going by his own knowlege. Reece of course had no idea the true power of the LT.

This is also not true, that was Uatu who was stating the facts.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Repairing multiveral dmg is childs play to the LT.

I agree.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Even mr. mxy has destroyed several on panel. and then just put them all back.

🙄

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And yet, if they were retconned, that would mean that the LT was in some way affected by said retcon. Which would mean there are two versions of the LT. A dream version or pre retcon version, and a post retcon version.
🤨

Originally posted by Mr Master
Not concerning classic Beyonder.

Pre-retcon Beyonder or MM > any LT (actually, the one and only LT)

This isn't true, not one word of it.

This is also not true, that was Uatu who was stating the facts.

I agree.

🙄

Master, be a dear and show me something that the beyonder or classic MM did that the LT cannot. And while your at it, please show us what was the LT's greatest feat before the beyonder sagas. This will tell us how to truly gage MM's power.

Originally posted by pr1983
yes, because your accusations are really going to bother me...

you bashed him and you know it, so i'd stop trying to make excuses if i was you.


That doesn't prove that I bashed him.
Originally posted by pr1983
and this:

basically says you endorse bashing and are annoyed because someone called you on it...


Endorsing bashing is different from actually bashing someone. Not saying that I endorse bashing, but since this is what you believed and this is what you gave me a warning for, the warning should have never happened because you can't give me a warning simply because you believe I endorse bashing. 🙂
Originally posted by pr1983
and truth be told, i dont even remember you posting in the superman wwh thread...

if nvr has a problem, he reports it, and the mods take whatever action is neccessary...

if i was such a terrible member going around bashing people, i wouldnt have that big Moderator title under my name... so again, your argument carries no weight.


This verifies my guess that you feel you are higher than others. You think you are superior to others because you are a moderator (notice how he said "big" Moderator title) and thus you feel your beliefs on matters are absolutely right, and this is why I was unjustly warned.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Repairing Multiversal damage maybe? Also, Lt has been constant, you said it yourself, he has NEVER been retconned, he has stayed the same, so Classic MM and Beyonder are stronger.

👆

Given that the LT has remained constant, Then he's always been 2nd only to God correct?

Only because the retcon happened. If the retcon never happened he would have moved down the list by default because Beyonder and MM were greater than the LT.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Given that the LT has remained constant, Then he's always been 2nd only to God correct?
In status, not power.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
In status, not power.

Wait, so you are saying the LT has grown in power? Or he's grown in status? cuz his bio says he's always been 2nd only to god.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Wait, so you are saying the LT has grown in power? Or he's grown in status? cuz his bio says he's always been 2nd only to god.
Because the events of Secret Wars never actually happened. 😉

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Because the events of Secret Wars never actually happened. 😉

Then that would mean, that you can't compare the classic MM to the Actual LT, you can only use what the MM did in the story.