Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
That Hawkeye kill, would count as a win, going by forum standards...
If it would've killed her.
Wanda wasn't battle ready when that happened,
she was being distracted by Strange,
while consciously Warping the 616 Universe
and while subconsciously collapsing the Omniverse.
That's how Hawkeye got that arrow through.
The second arrow shot though, was a whole different story:
Oh I forgot,
she also had created and was controlling a separate Reality inside her domain,
to show Strange what Quicksilver said:
This scenario involving Quicksilver lasted 4 pages:
(a separate Reality of its own as I said also being manipulated by Wanda)
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Wanda becomes very emotional:
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This is when Hawkeye sneaks up on her:
While she's controlling Reality Outside, destroying All Reality outside of that,
Created/manipulating a Reality Inside and on top of that,
she just went through FOUR pages of emotional turmoil:
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Hawkeye shot Wanda dead in the Heart with what he called was a "Kill Shot"
Seems like she's dead:
Notice the arrows Position, right on the side of the Heart.
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Hawkeye came to KILL, READ the scan.
But she CAN'T Die .. arrow in her back deconstructs ... everything is as was:
Hawkeye shot another arrow, almost immediately after the first:
THIS time ... Wanda KNEW it was coming, observe the difference now:
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Wanda breaks Hawkeye up into little blocks ... forget the arrow:
Originally posted by Mr MasterI'm just saying, when she went down, it would have counted as her being KO'ed, or taken out if that was a forum battle.
If it would've killed her.Wanda wasn't battle ready when that happened,
she was being distracted by Strange,
while consciously Warping the 616 Universe
and while subconsciously collapsing the Omniverse.
The scans, and explantions weren't needed.
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
I'm just saying, when she went down, it would have counted as her being KO'ed, or taken out if that was a forum battle.
Like I said,
if Wanda is battle ready (like the second arrow) no one is touching her.
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
The scans, and explantions weren't needed.
Obviously they were, since you returned with the same speculation.
And they're pretty so others can enjoy them. 🙂
Originally posted by Mr MasterSo?
Like I said,if Wanda is battle ready (like the second arrow) no one is touching her.
Obviously they were, since you returned with the same speculation.
And they're pretty so others can enjoy them. 🙂
Someone said that he would kill her, and Galan said:
"'Kill her' like Hawkeye tried to do? 😕 "
And, like I said, the time Hawkeye did hit her, it would count as a win on the forum.
I'm also referring to it as if Galan was talking about the first arrow.
Umm... how exactly is that speculation? 😕
You mean, when she went down from Hawkeye, I was just speculating that it would have counted as a win on teh forum?
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
So?Someone said that he would kill her, and Galan said:
"'Kill her' like Hawkeye tried to do?"
I think he was pointing out that she can't be killed.
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
And, like I said, the time Hawkeye did hit her, it would count as a win on the forum.
I know, but that was the purpose of the scans and explanation,
there was a reason behind Hawkeye being able to hit her with the arrow.
Unless the thread starter considers the exact circumstances taking place
as in that particular incident with Hawkeye,
Wanda can't be harmed. (she wasn't really harmed anyway)
This was proven when she became battle ready (forum rules as well)
with the second arrow.
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
I'm also referring to it as if Galan was talking about the first arrow.
In that case, under those exact circumstances, I agree then.
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Umm... how exactly is that speculation?
You mean, when she went down from Hawkeye, I was just speculating that it would have counted as a win on teh forum?
The speculation?
(her getting ko'd for the win based on that moment with Hawkeye)
But, I now got what you're saying.
And you're right, but the fight would have to begin with the same scenerio,
and I just doubt a thread starter would do that.
That's like a playstation cheese move.
Originally posted by Mr Master
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Where is this stated?Not in HOM or any of its tie-ins that's for sure.
Actually it was due to the actions of some Avengers members but her family did contribute to the madness.
Where is this stated.
Did they not go searching for her? Did Xavier not call a meeting on what her fate should be? To live or die? 😕
😆
What? Is SW immortal or something? SW is flesh and bones. Do u know what Strange could do to that while in astral form?
During HOM, and everyone knows this,Wanda Re-Created the Omniverse, On Panel and in many Bios confirmed.
Yeah she went crazy and had a moment of glory for a little while. Now she's powerless living in a village with no memory whatsoever. How's her tp defenses? Xavier put her in a coma. She is still a mutant w/probability and magic powers. The magic aids her probability powers but if Strange absorbed it her power level would dip =ling less probability.
😂You must be talking about Respect thread Dr Strange
(who for the most part doesn't exist)
Yea, he stalemated the IG, resisted the LT and defeated Eternity.
I'm sure, but not in Marvel comics.
Then what comics are they? Resisting LT was a legit feat. Who said he defeated Eternity? Is that how u interpeted the encounter? I did see him defeat Shuma using the black arts tho. That Strange really exists. Shuma > >>>>SW.
It's cool to speculate but unfortunately,
On Panel, none of that was possible.
It wasn't possible because he didn't try black magic on panel. Doesn't mean he couldn't do it. That's for last resort vs. evil entities. If SW was evil and Strange tried that, SW would go from insane to powerless to banished and/or destroyed. A mind so fragile as SW's during this period should be easy pickings for Stranges tp + the Eye. Wouldn't make for a good read if he just ended like that tho would it?
Originally posted by Sundipped
Actually it was due to the actions of some Avengers members but her family did contribute to the madness.
I never said she wasn't losing her marbles,
but she wasn't a complete mumbling fool either.
Originally posted by Sundipped
Did they not go searching for her? Did Xavier not call a meeting on what her fate should be? To live or die?
Just cause X called a meeting,
didn't mean they were capable of accomplishing their desires.
As we found out, they were all insects to Wanda.
In fact, Wanda was giving them all their dreams,
as for X, Wanda actaully made him more powerful,
just by him arriving in Genosha: (where Wanda was situated)
Originally posted by Sundipped
What? Is SW immortal or something?
In HOM? Yea.
(Hawkeye shot an arrow with the intent to kill right into her heart while she was distarcted)
guess what happened? Nothing really.
Originally posted by Sundipped
SW is flesh and bones.
If she wishes to be, she can be anything she wants.
She made copies of herself, she entered the Astral plane at will and on and on.
Originally posted by Sundipped
Do u know what Strange could do to that while in astral form?
Absolutely nothing,
since Wanda can perceive Strange even while in the Astral Plane,
as though he were in the physical plane:
Oh my, Wanda is no joke.
Originally posted by Sundipped
Yeah she went crazy and had a moment of glory for a little while. Now she's powerless living in a village with no memory whatsoever. How's her tp defenses? Xavier put her in a coma. She is still a mutant w/probability and magic powers. The magic aids her probability powers but if Strange absorbed it her power level would dip =ling less probability.
Thread starter said HOM Wanda, not current.
Originally posted by Sundipped
Then what comics are they? Resisting LT was a legit feat.
Strange never resisted the LT.
LT was just testing Strange with minute traps to see if he was worthy of saving Earth:
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LT was never trying to harm Strange,
he was testing him to see if he had it in him to save the Planet Earth
before LT Erased it.
This is the big wow of the issue for Strange,
he breaks free from the Rings of Raggadorr that LT trapped him in:
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LT here gives Strange another Test, he's Not trying to Harm him in anyway:
"Let it then be the Final TEST of my Powers"
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Strange says about LT.....
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So LT sends Dr Strange on his mission or else:
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Strange PLEADS while paying Homage to LT,
to spare the Earth momentarily while he tries to fix what's wrong:
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Originally posted by Sundipped
Who said he defeated Eternity? Is that how u interpeted the encounter?
The respect thread.
And no, I actually brought to light the truth about the LT, IG and Eternity.
Originally posted by Sundipped
I did see him defeat Shuma using the black arts tho.
That Strange really exists.
So did I, I have the issue.
Shuma is overrated.
Originally posted by Sundipped
Shuma > >>>>SW.
Current? I agree.
HOM Wanda >to Infinity> Shuma
Originally posted by Sundipped
It wasn't possible because he didn't try black magic on panel. Doesn't mean he couldn't do it. That's for last resort vs. evil entities. If SW was evil and Strange tried that, SW would go from insane to powerless to banished and/or destroyed.
Interesting, he didn't seem to hold back during Avengers Disassemble.
In fact, he tried killing that weaker Wanda by frying her brain,
and even that weaker Wanda survived and recovered.
And that was just because she was killing a few Avengers. :🙂
But now that All of Reality (the Omniverse) is on the line,
you believe he was holding back. Ok.
Originally posted by Sundipped
A mind so fragile as SW's during this period should be easy pickings for Stranges tp + the Eye. Wouldn't make for a good read if he just ended like that tho would it?
Easy pickings? Ok.
That's your opinion, and that's cool.
But the fact is, Strange had his little "Eye" during HOM, didn't help him none.
Originally posted by starlock
Classic Strange for the win
HOM Wanda ftw in a horrific stomp.
Originally posted by starlock
Wanda needed xavier for HOM, say what you want, she needed him,
Wanda never needed X to increase HIS power (which she did, as I presented above)
Wanda never needed X to accelerate Genis' potential
(she had him blinking the Universe in and out of existence) 😂
Wanda never needed X to create a pocket Reality withIn her domain,
just to show Dr Strange what Quicksilver had said.
Wanda never needed X to Remake the 616 Universe
Wanda never needed X to collapse the Omniverse.
Wanda never needed X to Re-create the Omniverse.
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The only thing Wanda used X for was to learn about the desires of heroes,
which then ON HER OWN, she delivered their dreams to them,
uhh, including X himself:
Xavier thinks he's Dreaming at first:
Here Gaby tells him she's existing in another Reality simultaneously,
because of Wanda:
Originally posted by starlock
classic strange without the universe to worry about,
in a forum match would beat hom wanda...imo
Classic Strange with or without the Full back of the Vishanti, (or whoever)
get's curbstomped every which way from sunday against HOM Wanda.
Not imo, in Fact.
Eterntiy, the Vishanti, whoever, were all just victims of Wanda, . 🙂
The entire Omniverse was boombashed by Wanda On Panel.
Originally posted by Harry FingermanEven though she came back in a very "reasonable amount of time"? umm
That Hawkeye kill, would count as a win, going by forum standards...ermm
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Meh, that wasn't even my point...
This was the statement made:
Originally posted by King Kandy
I think Strange could win if he killed her before her brain had enough time to process a thought.
This is what I replied with:
Originally posted by Galan007
'Kill her' like Hawkeye tried to do? 😕
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This is the instance I was referencing:
Wanda wasn't 'killed' -- Because she can't die. 🙂
Not to take anything away from Wanda she did some incredible stuff going crazy in the brain but all this means is that she has a brain without strong telepathic resistance that was fried by Proff X and Strange.
In a all out battle on these boards and knowing what her powers are Strange would molest/sodimise/brutally rape Wanda with tp with total disregard for how her family feels, how the Avengers feel, and her seeking some kind of help.
Originally posted by Mr Master
His speed is meaningless.And what thought?
She's invulnerable from the get.
(Strange can do anything he wants first,
she'll simply smile at him instantly afterwards)
Prove to me that Wanda can take a mere bullet to the brain and live.
And don't show me where she was shot through the heart or something(non brain) and lived as she can just heal herself (making it not even happened).
In other words, prove this statement wrong:
Something instantly affecting her brain would prevent her from using her powers and thus she can die.
Originally posted by h1a8
Prove to me that Wanda can take a mere bullet to the brain and live.
And don't show me where she was shot through the heart or something(non brain) and lived as she can just heal herself (making it not even happened).In other words, prove this statement wrong:
Something instantly affecting her brain would prevent her from using her powers and thus she can die.
In the Avengers Disassembled arc,
Dr Strange completely fried the brain of a weaker Wanda.
(she was only able to kill a few Avengers at this point)
Wanda didn't die, recovered,
and came back as an uber god, then re-created the Omniverse.
🙂
Proven.
"A bullet to the head?"
Unfortunately no one was able to hurt Wanda during HOM,
so I can't show you anything else.
Then again,
how does one hurt a being that crumbles the entire Omniverse,
and then Remakes it with a phrase?
Originally posted by Mr Master
In the Avengers Disassembled arc,Dr Strange completely fried the brain of a weaker Wanda.
(she was only able to kill a few Avengers at this point)Wanda didn't die, recovered,
and came back as an uber god, then re-created the Omniverse.🙂
Proven.
"A bullet to the head?"
Unfortunately no one was able to hurt Wanda during HOM,
so I can't show you anything else.Then again,
how does one hurt a being that crumbles the entire Omniverse,
and then Remakes it with a phrase?
You must understand that she uses her brain to do this stuff. Without her brain then she is useless. This is common sense. I will read that arc though. But it seems Strange wouldn't use fatal force on her. So that arc probably doesn't prove anything really.
My argument is that if Strange can stop time before her then he can kill her entire brain function instantly at his leisure.
