I'd wager my 10 years of watching DB/Z/GT multiple times and reading the manga outweighs watching the series piled with pure guesswork and a lack of understanding of FTL feats.
Can you even prove that they're FTL+ by then or are you just saying it 'cause you think it is? And lol at Goku destroying a spirit.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Mercenary Tao was easily Mach 14+ though.
The long time of a few months ago? And it seems youve never read the manga, and manga > all other sources.
Only (hopefully) gonna say this one more time: 1) GT is not canon to the mange thus its feats do not count unless stated by the thread maker. 2) Goku can not destroy someones astral and spiritual forms or jump to 3 dimensions to kill DS.
Also, the nature of the Dispell Bound would neuter Goku. It would nullify his ki since Goku himself doesn't have it or any other sort of defense to counter it (E.G. Lighthawk Wings).
Originally posted by BloodRain
The long time of a few months ago? And it seems youve never read the manga, and manga > all other sources.
I find it odd that many DBZ fanboys have never read the manga.
They rabidly trump the anime but have never viewed the original work.
You'd think that they would. 😬
Originally posted by Karagiannis
everybody shut up.i have read the manga!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by Karagiannis
i dont care
Well I keep a brain where you have that braun ^^ anyhow you obviously don't understand the concept of canon. Nor do you get that only the thread maker can decide if we can use non-canon material, if not we go by the rules here.. not by what you want. 😐
Failed to understand canon, failed prove FTL, failed to prove spiritual attacks, failed to prove astral attacks, failed to put up a good argument, failed to do anything but show blind fanboy tendencies.
Anything else to add besides "Goku wins cos I said so"? If not this thread is over besides the topic carver9 and myself are having. Good day to you sir. 🙂
Originally posted by Karagiannis
everybody shut up.i have read the manga!!!!!!!!!!i dont care if gt is not a manga or that some scenes in the anime didnt seen in the manga.everything counts filler episdos are real and gt is a real anime we can use it all we want!
😆 Wow, your spirit has truly been broken!
Originally posted by Karagiannis
can your braun understand that scenes in the anime that are not shown in the manga are real and not fan fiction?and the fact that dbgt hasnt got a manga matter?NO gt is a REAL anime.stop caring only about the manga!the anime count and thats final.goku wins end of the discussion
It's not a matter of whether or not it's real. It's a matter of it being a canonical work (I.E. Akira Toriyama's vision).
[QUOTE=13344939]Originally posted by BloodRain
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Failed to understand canon, failed prove FTL, failed to prove spiritual attacks, failed to prove astral attacks, failed to put up a good argument, failed to do anything but show blind fanboy
im pretty sure that the thread maker will allow gt and filler episode cuz he supports dragonball.almost everyone after the android saga is ftl.spiritual attack=spirit bomb.astral=super kamehameha.goku wins
Originally posted by Karagiannis
im pretty sure that the thread maker will allow gt and filler episode cuz he supports dragonball.almost everyone after the android saga is ftl.spiritual attack=spirit bomb.astral=super kamehameha.goku wins [/B]
In this regard I agree. The thread maker would certainly intend for GT to count. Most probably anyway. It just has the unfortunate side effect of not changing the outcome of this fight.
I have never seen the spirit bomb destory someones spirit.
I'm actually not sure on how th word astral is being used in this thread. My guess is of the stars, so I suppose any physical attack would in theory cause harm to him. If it is connected in any sense to astral projection, then Goku cannot harm him.
Not that Goku really stands a chance here any who.
See the thing is youre expecting us to take your word that they are FTL after the Android saga. You'll need to show us why you think this. For instance:
DS flew to the center of the galaxy from Earth in under 4 years, so he's FTL - ✓
Everyone after the Android saga is FTL - 〤
Spirit Bomb is just the name, not what it effects. In fact its real name, Genki Dama, means Energy Ball in Japanese. Nothing to do with spirits. Where did you get the idea that a Super Kamehameha can touch astral being? Even if, Goku would have to do these attacks 'at the same time.'
On the other hand, like said already, DS can destroy galaxies by tripping over. 😕
@Aura: "Judas Priest: Destroys the eternal atoms of the user (attacks atoms on physical, astral and spiritual level)" An attack like this is what can put someone like DS down. Astral=soul for them which is different to spirit.
i dont care what you saying d.s never destroyd a galaxy so its not sure if he can.but its sure that he cant destroy the universe just like buuhan.as i said he will collapse dimmension and in the dimmension he will collapse there will be d.s. 3 atoms with that attack d.s. body will also be destroyed and if theres no universe how he will live?anyway just as i said almost everyone after the andoird saga is ftl its so obvious!
Buu's not in the match nor is the full version of that attack canon and DS's atoms are in 3 different dimensions, not one.
If its obvious post a video or a scan showing FTL movements and I'll gladly take a look, make haste.
Some angels destroyed a galaxy by flying past it, there power is nothing compared to DS.
Also a character split the Earth apart with a single punch, DS is stronger than him by a far.
You're not understanding the whole interdimentional, universal threat thing about D.S are you? Goku never had galaxy destroying powers BTW
Goku can't survive in space, has a Spirit Bomb that barely crippled a planet, and has died 2 times. I'm not sure who said this, but I'll reitterate that D.S has to be destroyed simutaneously in seperate dimensions and last time I checked, Goku can't be at two places at once no matter how fast he is.
Sorry...Goku's a legend and all but he looses!