Battlezone Match: Akuki vs. Phenomenol match thread

Originally posted by darthgoober
Just to clarify, yes I said that anime is allowed. But here's the deal, the mods are under no obligation to allow anime threads just because they're Battle Zone matches and they outrank me. So there's a chance that this one may get closed just like the other one did. I'll probably end up PMing Tron and seeing if allowances will be made in regards to Battle Zone matches...

All the links to the posts are here though.

Ok to summarize my points:
1) Phenomenol has made the continual fallacy to claim that since in one small piece of the anime they show Buu gradually destroying a galaxy he is a galaxy level thread. This is completely different from the power level showed in the manga which states that he took several years to destroys hundreds of planets. In addition to this Buu was stronger than Goku, so it can't really be said that Goku was capable of this feat since Goku was only able to take out Buu because he was given a ridiculous amount of time to charge up his energy for the spirit ball, which he would obviously not have in this battle.

NOPE, GOKU AT THE END OF DBZ IS MORE POWQERFUL THAN EVERYONE IN DRAGONBALL Z GOKU WNET TOE-TO-TOE WITH BUU A GALAXY DESTROYER. SMALL PIECE OR NOT THE CANON ANIME SHOWS A GALAXY BEING VAPORIZED AND THAT CAN NOT BE DENIED, YOU BEING A WHINEY DS FANBOY ISN'T GONNA CHANGE THAT FACT.

2) Phenomenol has continually ignored the fact that D.S. is clearly faster than light based upon the the scan from the databook and the original japanese scan that I provided.

LOL NOTHING FROM THE DATA BOOK STATES DS IS LIGHTSPEED IT SAID THAT THE SERAPHIM CAN TRAVEL LIGHTSPEED HERE.....http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=seraphsjk0.jpg

WHILE dS SPEED IS STATED TO BE SOUND SPEED.......
"Moving in the speed of supersonic
Attacking several thousand times in secondS"
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/hitokiri7303/bastard22_41.jpg
http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0003qt3.jpg

AGAIN,YOU HAVE YET TO PROVE THAT THESE ARE A MISTRANSLATION! 🙄 STOP DENYING FACTS!

3) The highest tier characters in Bastard!! which D.S. falls into have consistently shown Galaxy threat levels of power. We have the archangel Michael who states that Fallen Uriel could "crush/overwhelm the galaxy", we have the Judas pain which is said to have the power to destroy the galaxy, and we have Satan whose physical form itself is large enough cover most of the galaxy.

NOWHERE DOES IT STATE THAT FALLEN URIELD COULD CRUSH A GALAXY, YOU HAVE YET TO SHOW ME THIS? DARK SCHNEIDER DOES NOT HAVE ALL THE PIECES OF THE JUDAS PAIN SO THAT POINT IS MOOT. THE POINT IS YOU HAVE YET TO POST THAT DS HAS ANY POWER TO COMPETE WITH GOKU? I CONTINUALLY ASKED FOR FEATS OF HIS POWER AND YOU CAME UP WITH NONE.

4) Phenomenol has demonstrated no clear reason why Goku would be able to break through D.S.'s shields which withstood continuous attacks by planet busting and galaxy threat opponents, and which are also being regenerated at insanely fast speeds

DARK SCHNEIDER'S DISPELL BOUND WAS BEING BROKEN BY ULTRA POWERED PUNCHES NOWHERE NEAR THE PLANET BUSTING ATTACK THAT I CONTINUALLY ASKED FOR YOU TO POST. STOP MAKING UP CLAIMS WHEN IT DOESN'T EVEN STATE ANY OF THAT IN THE SCANS YOU POSTED.

5) IF Goku should for some crazy reason get through D.S's shields he still has to deal with his crazy endurance and regeneration. D.S. is built around a core of eternal atoms and so long as these are not destroyed he will keep functioning. If Goku proved unable to deal with the regen of someone like Buu without the Spirit bomb what's he going to do against D.S.? Also in order to kill D.S. permanently Goku must be able to destroy the soul of his opponent which is clearly not possible for him since we often see the souls of his dead opponents in hell chatting.

SHOW ME WHERE DS REGENERATES FROM A BLAST THAT COULD VAPORIZE EARTH? YOU HAVE YET TO SHOW THIS THROUGH THE ENTIRE THREAD I CONTINUALLY ASKED YOU TO SHOW ME WHERE? DS COULDN'T EVEN REGENERATE FROM GETTING HIS WINGS RIPPED OFF BY FALLEN URIELS ENERGY WHIPS AND GOT BLASTED BY AN ATTACK THAT WAS LESS THAN A PLANET BUSTING ATTACK THAT KNOCKED HIM OUT OF HIS MAJIN DS FORM!

KI IS SPIRIT I SHOWED YOU AN EPISODE WHERE MAJIN VEGETA IS FIGHTING GOKU'S SPIRIT/SOUL! HOW CAN YOU CONSISTENTLY SAY THAT DBZ CAN NOT DAMAGE THE SOUL/SPIRIT WHEN YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE VEGETA FIGHTING GOKU'S SOUL/SPIRIT?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=N2ITE8tKK2k&mode=related&search= 🙄

As a result of this the result of a battle is quite clear. D.S's shields have taken far worse than anything Goku can dish out, and his regeneration far exceeds anything seen in DBZ, while his blasts are far more powerful than anything Goku would be able to take with feats such as shattering the walls of hell.
Therefore D.S. wins because he has the firepower and the speed to put Goku down, while Goku has no real way to take down D.S.

I think I'm done now.

BUU AND CELLS REGENERATION >>>>>>>>DARK sCHNEIDER'S. AGAIN YOU WILL FIND ALL THE SCANS THAT I CONTINUALLY ASKED YOU FOR CONCERNING THIS MATTER IN THIS THREAD AND YOU DID NOT ANSWER ANY OF THEM!!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU??

Originally posted by Akuki
Phenom, do you want to keep going or not? If I have failed to provide evidence then the judges can take that into account, however I feel I have provided all that is necessary.

Stalling by definition means to extend the time in order to gain an advantage, I'm offering you the chance to shorten the time, yet you continue to claim I'm stalling. Please just give me an answer to my question. Do you wish to continue or not?

WHATEVER DUDE, LET ME MAKE SURE TO LET YALL KNOW THAT THE ANIME IS CANON STATED BY TORIYAMA HIMSELF AGAIN!

12: From time to time, il would happen that people whom I didn't even know were approaching me about the anime. Things were often said like: "Oh jeeze, between the manga and the anime, you must never take any time to let yourself breathe!". In reality, I had hardly worked at all on the anime, I had put confidence in my collaborators. I had enough to do just with the manga. I didn't want to work myself to death, you know...

Toriyama: I want to live until I'm 100 years old!

13: For example, drawing an image of a movement in a manga is relatively simple, but to animate this image, you had to decompose the movement and draw all the intermediary movements. That demands a colossal amount of work. (Ok, the example of Kame-sennin might not be the most appropriate...)

14: Of course, those who have read Dragon Ball have noticed that certain stories which are found in the anime didn't existe in the manga.

Oolong: What's this? I never saw that in the manga....

END: As one adventure in the manga corresponds to about 10 minutes of animation, and since one episode comprises on average 30 minutes, the entire series of Dragon Ball would have passed by very quickly. The team of animators therefore had to insert some original stories. I admire what they have done, that's a hell of a job!

Toriyama: Dragon Ball, it's the anime and the manga

........... MORE POWER SHOWING GOKU IS OVER DS....

GOKU USING INSTANTANEOUS MOVEMENT + KAMEHAMEHA =DEAD DS!!

GOKU EASILY SLAPPING AWAY A BLAST THAT EASILY DESTROYED 1/10 OF EARTH! IT IS STATED HERE FOR CONFIRMATION.http://magikarp46.com/dragonball/manga/40.html#475

MY SCANS AND CLIPS SPEAK FOR MYSELF THROUGHOUT THIS THREAD! I BACKED UP MY CLAIMS WHNE AKUKI HAS NOT, I CONTINULLLY ASKED HIM FOR PROOF OF HIS CLAIMS AND HE HAS FAILED TO RESPOND. IT IS OBVIOUS GOKU IS THE SUPERIOR ONE HERE.......

LOL can I add more rape? I think I will.......

At 6:07 watch as Vegeta (Someone Goku BEAT) blows away a planet with two fingers (Goodbye Bastardverse)!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8djP3tEd0pY&mode=related&search=dbz%20dragonballz%20vegeta%20nappa%20trust%20company%20saiyan%20saga%20planet%20arlia%20arlians%20figure%208

Goku at the end of DBZ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saiya-jin saga Vegeta.👆 👆

Battle is over Judges can vote now.

More proof that DBZ can KILL Souls/Spirits, kid buu is in heaven about to kill them(sorry for the crappy dub).
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y9o1TQUFAP4

Judges you can vote now!

Soooooooooo...who won?

With the match being over, I'll cast the first vote.

I'm extremely tempted to vote against Phenom solely on the basis of bringing in his sock to post for him and insulting me. 😒

But I won't. I'll vote on this match honestly.

This is a joke. This is a stupid and insulting joke. This is like putting.............. forget it. I can't even begin to describe the level of spite this match is.

I have the fortune to have to read the 'BASTARD!!' manga and the DBZ manga. And I asked Akuki if he would please not use the Judas Pain. I'm sorry Phenom, you never had a chance to begin with. There is no possible way you could win this fight.

The Judas Pain means that DS is pretty much unkillable. And ignoring that, Goku has no means of destroying his spirit or his essence. And without that, he's ****ed.

I just can't get around the spite involved in this match. ❌ If it was a lesser version, like Majin, it would be a better fight, though still in favor of DS. But this? This is a joke. The Judas Pain puts DS over skyfather and in to low end abstract or perhaps entity level.

Sorry Phenom. But the match was rigged to begin with.

Judge Vote: Akuki.

DS is not a Skyfather unless he can manip matter, wanted to point that out.

Sorry TP nothing against you but IT IS PLAIN OBVIOUS THAT YOU ARE BIAS AND DISMISSED ALL THE EVIDENCE SHOWING GOKU THE WINNER!! I knew this would happen......

Here I will prove it......

With the match being over, I'll cast the first vote.

I'm extremely tempted to vote against Phenom solely on the basis of bringing in his sock to post for him and insulting me.

But I won't. I'll vote on this match honestly..

1. You already stated that you are bias against me and who is my sock? Noone came in here to post for me and noone INSULTED you.

You simply are not being Honest, you are being a Dark Schneider fanboy I will show you why....

This is a joke. This is a stupid and insulting joke. This is like putting.............. forget it. I can't even begin to describe the level of spite this match is

LMAO! this post already shows your BIAS, no wonder why Akuki was quick to heavily request you! YOU GUYS FAIL.

I have the fortune to have to read the 'BASTARD!!' manga and the DBZ manga. And I asked Akuki if he would please not use the Judas Pain. I'm sorry Phenom, you never had a chance to begin with. There is no possible way you could win this fight.

This is fanboyish, you and Akuki NEVER addressed my points or questions. 🙄 You never read Bastard because it is obviosu you wouldn't try and LIE about DS speed being above speed of sound when the scan and the ORIGINAL JAPANESE translation says that he is only sound speed ALOS FASTER THAN AN EXPLOSION NUCLEUS)! NOWHERE DOES IT SAY FASTER THAN LIGHT.

The Judas Pain means that DS is pretty much unkillable. And ignoring that, Goku has no means of destroying his spirit or his essence. And without that, he's ****ed.

WRONG again, DS wit hthe Judas pain can be KNOCKED THE HELL OUT!! and what the hell do you mean that Goku can't kill his spirit??? I gave you clips of Majin Buu going to HEAVEN AND KILLING SPIRITS!...This was the proof!!....KI ATTACKS ON A PHISCAL LEVEL AS WELL AS SPIRITUAL!!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y9o1TQUFAP4

QUIT IGNORING MY FACTS.

LOL NOT TOO MENTION THE FACT THAT NONE OF YOU BIAS MEMBERS EXPALINED HOW DS WAS GOING TO EVEN SCRATCH GOKU??? 🙄

This is a joke. The Judas Pain puts DS over skyfather and in to low end abstract or perhaps entity level.

Sorry Phenom. But the match was rigged to begin with.

Judge Vote: Akuki.

WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

YOU OR AKUKI HAS YET TO POST DS SHOWING ANY POWER TO BE SKY FATHER LEVEL? WHILE GOKU IS A SKYFATHER WHO CAN DESTROY SOLAR SYSTEMS AND MORE, GOKU HAS FACED BEINGS WHO CAN SHATTER GALAXIES AND SOLAR SYSTEMS BUT YOU WANNA IGNORE THE EVIDENCE BEACUSE OF YOUR BIAS?

MY SCANS AND CLIPS ARE ABOVE WHAT YOU AND AKUKI CLAIMED...YOU ARE A BIAS INDIVIDUAL AND PLEASE DON'T LIE ABOUT READING BASTARD ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU AGREED WITH AKUKI'S RESPECT THREAD WHICH IS INACCURATE!

MY SCANS AND CLIPS >>>>>>>>>>> YOUR OPINIONS AND DS WITH THE JUDAS PAIN!

YOU HAVE FAILED. POST WHERE AKUKI EVEN ADDRESED ANY OF MY POINTS? WHEN DID HE EVER MATCH SCANS WITH SCANS? HE NEVER ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS? THIS IS BIAS ASS CRAP....

THIS WAS A RAPESTOMP IN GOKU'S FAVOR, HE IS NOT EVEN PLANET BUSTING LEVEL AND YOU SAY DS IS SKY FATHER LEVEL? lol! 🙄

BIAS JUDGING!

Just wanted to mention this, the main reason why I accepted TP was because he speaks japanese, not because of any bias I thought he would have on my behalf.

Originally posted by Akuki
Just wanted to mention this, the main reason why I accepted TP was because he speaks japanese, not because of any bias I thought he would have on my behalf.

Originally posted by Phenomenol
Sorry TP nothing against you but IT IS PLAIN OBVIOUS THAT YOU ARE BIAS AND DISMISSED ALL THE EVIDENCE SHOWING GOKU THE WINNER!! I knew this would happen......

Here I will prove it......

1. You already stated that you are bias against me and who is my sock? Noone came in here to post for me and noone INSULTED you.

You simply are not being Honest, you are being a Dark Schneider fanboy I will show you why....

LMAO! this post already shows your BIAS, no wonder why Akuki was quick to heavily request you! YOU GUYS FAIL.

This is fanboyish, you and Akuki NEVER addressed my points or questions. 🙄 You never read Bastard because it is obviosu you wouldn't try and LIE about DS speed being above speed of sound when the scan and the ORIGINAL JAPANESE translation says that he is only sound speed ALOS FASTER THAN AN EXPLOSION NUCLEUS)! NOWHERE DOES IT SAY FASTER THAN LIGHT.

WRONG again, DS wit hthe Judas pain can be KNOCKED THE HELL OUT!! and what the hell do you mean that Goku can't kill his spirit??? I gave you clips of Majin Buu going to HEAVEN AND KILLING SPIRITS!...This was the proof!!....KI ATTACKS ON A PHISCAL LEVEL AS WELL AS SPIRITUAL!!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y9o1TQUFAP4

QUIT IGNORING MY FACTS.

LOL NOT TOO MENTION THE FACT THAT NONE OF YOU BIAS MEMBERS EXPALINED HOW DS WAS GOING TO EVEN SCRATCH GOKU??? 🙄

WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

YOU OR AKUKI HAS YET TO POST DS SHOWING ANY POWER TO BE SKY FATHER LEVEL? WHILE GOKU IS A SKYFATHER WHO CAN DESTROY SOLAR SYSTEMS AND MORE, GOKU HAS FACED BEINGS WHO CAN SHATTER GALAXIES AND SOLAR SYSTEMS BUT YOU WANNA IGNORE THE EVIDENCE BEACUSE OF YOUR BIAS?

MY SCANS AND CLIPS ARE ABOVE WHAT YOU AND AKUKI CLAIMED...YOU ARE A BIAS INDIVIDUAL AND PLEASE DON'T LIE ABOUT READING BASTARD ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU AGREED WITH AKUKI'S RESPECT THREAD WHICH IS INACCURATE!

MY SCANS AND CLIPS >>>>>>>>>>> YOUR OPINIONS AND DS WITH THE JUDAS PAIN!

YOU HAVE FAILED. POST WHERE AKUKI EVEN ADDRESED ANY OF MY POINTS? WHEN DID HE EVER MATCH SCANS WITH SCANS? HE NEVER ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS? THIS IS BIAS ASS CRAP....

THIS WAS A RAPESTOMP IN GOKU'S FAVOR, HE IS NOT EVEN PLANET BUSTING LEVEL AND YOU SAY DS IS SKY FATHER LEVEL? lol! 🙄

BIAS JUDGING!

I'm not biased in the slightest. It's just unfortunate that you got a judge who actually has read "BASTARD!!". OMAE WA USOTSUKI YARO DA ZE! KISAMA NO KOE WA KUSO DA! Phenom wa KMC no ichiban baka da yo.

Whitebeard was your sock, everyone knows it. And you called me a liar, when I'm judging your match and trying to be reasonable in a match that is complete and utter spite. Just how stupid are you? 🤨

The match is over. You lost. Stop bitching and accept that you overrated Goku to a gargantuan degree.

And GTFO KMC. stfugtfo

I really don't think I'm even going to vote.

It won't prove shit.

The 'loser' will just ***** and moan about biased judging. 🙄.

Just do it Soljer. 😉

Originally posted by Akuki
Just wanted to mention this, the main reason why I accepted TP was because he speaks japanese, not because of any bias I thought he would have on my behalf.

WRONG!!! Trickster prest can read Japanese? Lets see what Trickster priest said..........

The scan was grossly mistranslated. DS is going far above supersonic speed. I'm having trouble making out the kanji because there's some blurring going on at the part I need to translate. But it is at least lightspeed.

Here is what I said!.........

First of all BOTH of you are wrong, Trickster Priest aren't you a Judge? Are you on Akuki's payroll or something? The JAPANESE original states........

"Moving in the speed of supersonic
Attacking several thousand times in secondS" Another translation was faster than an explosion of a nucleaus (which is sound speed)!
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e...astard22_41.jpg

Which is the same as.......
http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0003qt3.jpg

Dark Schneider IS SUPER SONIC SPEEDS (Sound Speed)! The translation is accurate.

He can read Japanese you say! 🙄

You both fail. Trickster Priest was your WINNIG jusge all along you fanboy!

I'm not biased in the slightest. It's just unfortunate that you got a judge who actually has read "BASTARD!!". OMAE WA USOTSUKI YARO DA ZE! KISAMA NO KOE WA KUSO DA! Phenom wa KMC no ichiban baka da yo.

Whitebeard was your sock, everyone knows it. And you called me a liar, when I'm judging your match and trying to be reasonable in a match that is complete and utter spite. Just how stupid are you?

The match is over. You lost. Stop bitching and accept that you overrated Goku to a gargantuan degree.

1. YOU DIDN'T READ BASTARD AT ALL BECAUSE YOU AGREED WITH aKUKI'S INNACURATE RESPECT THREAD AND LIED ABOUT HIS ABILITIES BEING SKYFATHER LEVEL WHEN HE HAS SHOWN NO MORE POWER ABOVE CITY BUSTING LEVEL! yOU FAIL.

2. WHITEBEARD HAS NOT POSTED IN THIS THREAD IN FACT HAS HE LOGGED IN TODAY? WTF ARE YOU CHATTING? PLEASE SHOW ME WHERE I "OVERRATED GOKU" ESPECIALLY WHEN I SHOWED THE PRROF OF FEATS FROM THE ANIME AND MANGA BACKING UP MY CLAIMS UNLIKE YOU JUST STATING WHAT DS IS WITH NO PROOF AT ALL!

Originally posted by Phenomenol
WRONG!!! Trickster prest can read Japanese? Lets see what Trickster priest said..........

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I'm not biased in the slightest. It's just unfortunate that you got a judge who actually has read "BASTARD!!". OMAE WA USOTSUKI YARO DA ZE! KISAMA NO KOE WA KUSO DA! Phenom wa KMC no ichiban baka da yo.

🙂

and

stfugtfo

You have gone to far, you agreed to the match. When you agree to the match aND the Judges, you have no right to attack them for their discision.

Originally posted by Soljer
I really don't think I'm even going to vote.

It won't prove shit.

The 'loser' will just ***** and moan about biased judging. 🙄.

YOU TOO?

PLEASE DON'T MAKE ME GO GET LINKS WHERE YOU ALREADY ON AKUKI'S NUTS?

1. NONE OF YOU HAVE PROVIDED ANY EVIDENCE THAT DS IS ABOVE GOKU OR EVEN CLOSE!!! YOU IGNORE FACTS.

2. MAJIN DS HAS BEEN DEFEATED BY A CITY BUSTING ATTACK AND YOU SAY HE BEATD GOKU? A GUY WHO CAN CASUALLY SMASH PLANETS? 🙄

I GUESS YOU FAIL AS WELL, I KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN BECAUSE NONE OF YOU CAN'T ACCEPT THE TRUTH!

MY SCANS/CLIPS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>YOUR FANBOYISM AND BIAS FRO MAJIN DS AND aKUKI!

Originally posted by King Kandy
You have gone to far, you agreed to the match. When you agree to the match aND the Judges, you have no right to attack them for their discision.

YES I CLEARLY AGREED TO NO BIAS JUSGES DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE SAYING?

CTY BUSTER >>>>>>>>>>>> A GUY WHO CAN BLOW PLANETS UP WITH EASE!

THE YHAVE NO REASONS TO WHY THEY PICK DS.