Again he doesnt do it in AC where he is described as "his most powerful incarnation" weather nor not he was toying with cloud.
That's because he is not trying against Cloud. You don't use your best moves when you are merely toying with your enemy, its the same thing as him not using any special attacks and not using his negtive lifestream as a weapon.
I'll use quotes. I'm still waiting to see where it's stated AC Sephiroth is more powerful than Seifer Sephiroth. Because the interview was about AC does not cut it for me.
Have you lost the part of your brain that contols logic?! Nomura was talking about Sephiroth in AC, and said of AC Sephiroth that nothing is stronger, meaning Safer is not not stronger than AC. This interview had literally nothing at all to do with Sephiroth anywhere outside of AC, he was not referring to any Sephiroth but the AC one.
Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Yes the did, in the same statement Nomura goes on to talk about how originally all three of the SHM were going to merge when Seph appeared, but he thought that was comical so it was changed to just Kadaj, here is the full quoteIf they were talking about any other form of Sephiroth, the SHM wouldn't be mentioned and they wouldn't need to find a reason form him to re appear.
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NOW I see, you've taken everything completely out of context.
Nomura is sating that Sephiroths will to live and exist is Supreme not his physical strength
NOW I see, you've taken everything completely out of context.Nomura is sating that Sephiroths will to live and exist is Supreme not his physical strength
You really are a complete moron, aren't you? The quote says his will and existence are extremely powerful. It says nohing about his "will to live," it speaks of Sephiroth's very existance, and then goes on to say nothing is stronger than him.
"Sephiroth's existence and will is extremely powerful. There is nothing stronger, nothing above him."
If it was referring merely to Sephiroth's "will to live" it wouldn't say nothing is stronger than him, it would say nothing is stronger than it.
Originally posted by fascistcrusaderYou're still not getting that I am not reading it's AC dude. For all I know it's plain Sephiroth in general. Why would they give Seifer all these insane abilities and make AC Sephiroth look like a wimp compared to the other version?
Yes the did, in the same statement Nomura goes on to talk about how originally all three of the SHM were going to merge when Seph appeared, but he thought that was comical so it was changed to just Kadaj, here is the full quoteIf they were talking about any other form of Sephiroth, the SHM wouldn't be mentioned and they wouldn't need to find a reason form him to re appear.
And for like the fifth time, I go by SHOWINGS. Why? It's so that I can determine the outcome of this fight, as I've said several times.
Again, not mad at you or anything. I don't like it when people claim since this guy is considered more powerful than a guy who can vaporize a solar system, he would curb some other person despite the fact he has shown comparable powers and skills to that other character (that being the KH version) and I can see AC Sephiroth losing some matches against KH Sephiroth, just saying. The fact that he's vulnerable to Cloud's limit breaks makes me believe so, but yes, I'm putting my money on AC in this fight.
Originally posted by fascistcrusaderMy logic is fine thank you. What I've just said explains why I am not notified that he was speaking mainly of AC Sephiroth. It's speculation as far as I can see.
Have you lost the part of your brain that contols logic?! Nomura was talking about Sephiroth in AC, and said of AC Sephiroth that nothing is stronger, meaning Safer is not not stronger than AC. This interview had literally nothing at all to do with Sephiroth anywhere outside of AC, he was not referring to any Sephiroth but the AC one.
You don't need to make attempts to put me down in mere discussions like this. We're fans of similar things anyway.
Originally posted by fascistcrusader
You really are a complete moron, aren't you? The quote says his will and [b]existence are extremely powerful. It says nohing about his "will to live," it speaks of Sephiroth's very existance, and then goes on to say nothing is stronger than him."Sephiroth's existence and will is extremely powerful. There is nothing stronger, nothing above him."
If it was referring merely to Sephiroth's "will to live" it wouldn't say nothing is stronger than him, it would say nothing is stronger than it. [/B]
Note the words 'WILL TO EXIST'.
That defines that his WILL to exist is Supreme, existence doesn't necessarily define physical empowerment. Just that fact that he is physical , real, not part of the life-stream anymore.
You're still not getting that I am not reading it's AC dude. For all I know it's plain Sephiroth in general. Why would they give Seifer all these insane abilities and make AC Sephiroth look like a wimp compared to the other version?
This isn't rocket science. If it were Sephiroth in general, why would it only involve things related to AC Sephiroth, why would the interview say it is an interview about the making of Advent Children? Here is a link to the full thing, it is 100% AC.
http://flaregamer.com/b2article.php?p=109&more=1
And for like the fifth time, I go by SHOWINGS. Why? It's so that I can determine the outcome of this fight, as I've said several times.
For the fifth time, Sephiroth is holding back 90% of what he can do in AC. Of course you aren't going to see much out of him.
Again, not mad at you or anything. I don't like it when people claim since this guy is considered more powerful than a guy who can vaporize a solar system, he would curb some other person despite the fact he has shown comparable powers and skills to that other character (that being the KH version) and I can see AC Sephiroth losing some matches against KH Sephiroth, just saying. The fact that he's vulnerable to Cloud's limit breaks makes me believe so, but yes, I'm putting my money on AC in this fight.
Safer can't vaporize the solar system. Supernova is nothing more than an illusion accompanying a magic attack, if it actually destroyed the Solar System, why are Cloud and Co still on the planet if it were just burned up? How does he do it multiple times if h destroyed it already?
Note the words 'WILL TO EXIST'.That defines that his WILL to exist is Supreme, existence doesn't necessarily define physical empowerment. Just that fact that he is physical , real, not part of the life-stream anymore.
I'm noting that you can't read. Nowhere does it say "will to exist," it says will and existence. Then after it talks about how both Sephiroth's will and existence are extremely powerful, it goes on in a seperate sentence to say nothing is stronger than him, it would not say him unless it was referring to Sephiroth himself.
Now there's one thing I do hate. I hate it when people ask the same questions over and over when I've answered them already in topics (Refering to the last question asked in the first post above me). Go read what I said on the other page please.
Despite if he's stronger than Seifer, he has lesser showings, and yes of course I know he's going to be holding back against Cloud in AC. How do I know of his true abilities though because I don't. Going by showings, which we people here in KMC do, I'm going to say AC Sephiroth takes this slightly. KH and AC Sephiroth have demonstrated comparable speed skill and abilities, as far as my KH and FF7 knowledge is concerned.
Well KH 2 sephiroth fights with his off hand (gives Sora a change) but it would seem KH is more tamed and not embracing Jenova (although embracing darkness/heartless and has desplayed wider variety of powers/magic). All we see in AC Sephiroth is a few vague moments of super speed (when they are inside the building and clouds looking arround and sephiroth just zips in front of him and chops the pillar in half as cloud barely dodges, and telekenesis: willing the building to fall down and what not). Over all i think Advent Sephiroth would win just cause KH Sephiroth doesnt really bother parying ^_^. and of course AC sephiroth can fly up to him like Sora except in a fraction of time
Originally posted by fascistcrusaderThat doesnt change the fact he had ample time to do it when he acknowledged the fact that cloud was going to omni slash him. Infact he has more than enough time to do so. Don't be ridiculous and tell me that "oh so what if he had ample time, he was still toying with cloud".
That's because he is not trying against Cloud. You don't use your best moves when you are merely toying with your enemy, its the same thing as him not using any special attacks and not using his negtive lifestream as a weapon.
Heres a hint at common sense, when you underestimate your enemies and they gain the upperhand and they get a chance to kill you,
1) would you be stupid and continue to "dick around" when you KNOW hes going to kill you
2) Or would you unleash what you have in your arsenal?
Its pure common sense, dont be ridiculous