Illidan Stormrage Vs. Ganon

Originally posted by Burning thought
she was commenting on my Bias towards the WoW heroes, the people in the debate itself, not anything to do with the other WoW characters like Illidan.

Originally posted by Burning thought
You keep saying that, but then why should someone prove themselves to others who have not either,

Originally posted by Burning thought
i can claim at least small scraps of knowledge on the various marvel characters, things the Marvel profile page tells me but you guys seemed to have no thought to Kains powers,

Originally posted by Burning thought
you take into account him surviving things but can wovlerine teleport?

Originally posted by Burning thought
can he control weather,

Originally posted by Burning thought
energy,

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Originally posted by Burning thought
time

Originally posted by Burning thought
move through dimensions?

Originally posted by Burning thought
no...my arguments were far more varied yet you picked upon small things. Just becauses theres lower characters who can do one thing that kain can do, if Kain can do a huge range of things which he can, then he deserves higher for sure

Originally posted by Burning thought
and your being biased for not taking that into account.

Originally posted by Burning thought
You also did not take into account the placing of other characters (dante) and put a character who can do greater powers than he lower on the lader, which is bias...

Originally posted by Burning thought
no matter how irrelevent "you" thought it was.

Originally posted by Burning thought
are you not reading waht ime puting before you, as i was saying, your saying "the characters in game" can beat archimonde so you think this is the story,

Originally posted by Burning thought
wheras none of this has been writen in story, the characters dont excist in story, so in a real fight without CIS do you deny Archi being able to destroy them with ease?

Originally posted by Burning thought
its foolish...you cant honestly belive that comment you put was worthy of discussion, can you honestly belive Ganons going to try and convince Dante not to harm him? or even try to?

No, I just attacked the inaccurate statement that you couldn't use your inteligence to keep from being shot.

You can use your intelligence to keep from being shot. and I gave an example of how: by talking your way out of it. now quit acting like an idiot.

Originally posted by Creshosk
the wow heroes are wow characters are they not? Then my words are not wrong.

because they are previously established criteria, its not up to us to prove the positioning of each character's placement each time someone wan't to change or add a new character.

Marvel's become a wiki, as in edited by fans including fans that overhype haracter abilities like those that think the hulk, wolverine, or storm should be universal level.

Nightcrawler

Storm

Cyclops, Jubilee, gambit etc...

t forge.

Nightcrawler, magik

great he can do what a bunch of metas can do. why should he be above high meta?

See? there you go again. I'm biased for not agreeing with you. That's why you get labeled a fanboy, because that's exactly what a fanboy does. "You're biased for not thinking that my character is as awesome as I do!"

Dante wasn't being discussed, and again with the "You don't agree with me you're biased bullshit.

He was completely irrelivant.

Archimonde dies. That's the story. Not hard to get is it? ARchimonde died as part of the story. The specifics of it being the players is part of the mechanics. Who knows? Maybe in the future we'll have more releases and higher levels and some one will be able to solo Archimonde. The first time you go up against val cleft you need a party.. unless you wait... but I can solo the deadmines in west fall. The number of players, they type, their names the gear they had and any other variable that can change is unimportant. What's important is the fact that storywise he dies.

Yes. as its not part of the story.

Are you always an idiot like this? Did I say that Ganon was going to? Did I say that ganon would win? Did I say that Dante would win?

No, I just attacked the inaccurate statement that you couldn't use your inteligence to keep from being shot.

You can use your intelligence to keep from being shot. and I gave an example of how: by talking your way out of it. now quit acting like an idiot.

the WoW heroes are not official characters, their not story characters like Malfurion and Illidan, they cannot be added to the same characters.

thats all wonderful, anyone who can do all these things at mind thought and is equel or below them? steal souls as well i might add, your still bringing chracters up who can only do one of each ability, i ask can anyone do all of them?

Dante is not irrelevent, hes part of the placings, where they are placed determines the outlook on the character, if a stronger character is put below another, its certainly not irrelevent the confusion it could bring up.

in your own opinino what makes a Herald/skyfather? i mean you agreed pyron is a skyfather did you not? yet he cannot equel Odin or possibly even surfer in some feets.

Archi dies, your right, its the story, from the detonation of wisps and the nature magic Malfurion calls upon, the characters are not part of the story.

you dont think Archi could easily defeat without CIS the WoW heroes? lmao....this sums up this little conflict....your credbility is gone for sure

anyway weve hijacked this thread...illidan wins without invulerabiltiy on ganon, stalemate with

Originally posted by Burning thought
the WoW heroes are not official characters, their not story characters like Malfurion and Illidan, they cannot be added to the same characters.[

Originally posted by Burning thought
thats all wonderful, anyone who can do all these things at mind thought and is equel or below them? steal souls as well i might add, your still bringing chracters up who can only do one of each ability, i ask can anyone do all of them?

Originally posted by Burning thought
Dante is not irrelevent, hes part of the placings, where they are placed determines the outlook on the character, if a stronger character is put below another, its certainly not irrelevent the confusion it could bring up.

Originally posted by Burning thought
in your own opinino what makes a Herald/skyfather? i mean you agreed pyron is a skyfather did you not? yet he cannot equel Odin or possibly even surfer in some feets.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Archi dies, your right, its the story, from the detonation of wisps and the nature magic Malfurion calls upon, the characters are not part of the story.

Originally posted by Burning thought
you dont think Archi could easily defeat without CIS the WoW heroes?

Originally posted by Burning thought
lmao....this sums up this little conflict....your credbility is gone for sure

Originally posted by Burning thought
anyway weve hijacked this thread...illidan wins without invulerabiltiy on ganon, stalemate with

Originally posted by Creshosk
They are characters are they not?

Again I'm pointing out how the powers are meta level abilities. even with a bunch of meta level abilities you still only wind up with high-meta to low-herald level.

He's irrelevant because I don't know much about him. I cannot say wether his placement is good or not I wasn't paying attention when the case was made for him.

Except he's got Galactus level feats... oops, guess that blows your theory out of the water.

Right. Archimonde dies.

The only way to destroy that which does not exist is to create it. to unmake nonexistence. This would not defeat the heroes. You said yourself that the wow heroes are not part of the story.

Its a good thing you never had any reading comprehension in the first place. Other wise I'd say that was gone with your brains, whic you never had before... Ass.

Ganon loses without it and wins with it.

by dictionary defination, yes they are characters....and...

time stop is meta level, seems low for a power that can allow beings to beat almost anyone. But *shrug* marvels a little tipsy

hes irrelevent because you dont know much about him? 😂 i see...

Galactus level feets? eating a planet...thats the only thing he does on Galactus level.....if its planet busting you like then Kain could destroy a planet in a split second...no time at all perhaps.

also back the topic, how do you think ganon wins with it?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Right. Archimonde dies.

Dont forget to add "through vast nature damage"

Originally posted by Burning thought
by dictionary defination, yes they are characters....and...

Originally posted by Burning thought
time stop is meta level, seems low for a power that can allow beings to beat almost anyone. But *shrug* marvels a little tipsy

Originally posted by Burning thought
[Bhes irrelevent because you dont know much about him? 😂 i see...[/b]

Originally posted by Burning thought
[BGalactus level feets? eating a planet...thats the only thing he does on Galactus level...[/b]

Originally posted by Burning thought
also back the topic, how do you think ganon wins with it?

Originally posted by Creshosk
By killing illidan, seiously, Logic is a very sore point for you isn't it? As in you're not good at it in the slightest.

you say something stupid, because you cant debate then you bash me?....youd be good at chicken limbo, how low can ya go!

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
Dont forget to add "through vast nature damage"

Originally posted by Burning thought
you say something stupid, because you cant debate then you bash me?....youd be good at chicken limbo, how low can ya go!

Originally posted by Creshosk
It's only stupid to those incapable of understanding it.

i see lmao...thats a good little tactic isnt it...

so your sum of your debating skills in this thread is

"ganon wins by killing Illidan" most excellent skill you have...

Originally posted by Burning thought
i see lmao...thats a good little tactic isnt it...

so your sum of your debating skills in this thread is

"ganon wins by killing Illidan" most excellent skill you have...

I treat you rudely because you ask for it. We've been over this I treat you with the level of civility you display. Act rude or like an idiot I'll treat you as such.

You have yet to do anything other than whine. Does the baby need a diaper change?

Originally posted by Creshosk
As opposed to yours which is the same?

I treat you rudely because you ask for it. We've been over this I treat you with the level of civility you display. Act rude or like an idiot I'll treat you as such.

You have yet to do anything other than whine. Does the baby need a diaper change?

you started the rudeness and hostility....

no as opposed to mine which is to simply escape or tire Ganon, he cannot kill Ganon, weve got past that, illidan would be able to stop any attack or escape from any attack ganon can possibly do, or just keep his distance....stalemate

and yes you do need a Diaper change it seems

Originally posted by Burning thought
no as opposed to mine which is to simply escape

Originally posted by Burning thought
or tire Ganon,

Originally posted by Burning thought
he cannot kill Ganon, weve got past that, illidan would be able to stop any attack

Originally posted by Burning thought
or escape from any attack ganon can possibly do,

Originally posted by Burning thought
or just keep his distance....stalemate

Originally posted by Burning thought
and yes you do need a Diaper change it seems

I've played both games, you obviously cannot claim the same.

Leaving the field
Combatants who leave the field of combat on purpose forfeit the match. If they are removed from the arena against their will (being punched, thrown, teleported, etc.) and can make it back under their own power in a reasonable amount of time, then they are still in the fight. Obviously, if a combatant leaves the field and cannot return under their own power, then they have lost.[/b]

Originally posted by Creshosk
forfeit via the rules.

that's about as likely as the reverse.

Of course he would. 🙄

then he forfeits via the bfr rule.

Ignoring Ganon's teleportation ability...

I'm not the one whining or who's full of shit.

I've played both games, you obviously cannot claim the same. [/B][/QUOTE]

no, i didnt mean escaping the battlefield, i mean evading and escaping ganons attacks, yes good one, teleportation......hes going to end up teleporting to a space Illidna isnt at anymore when hes moved onto the next area, while in flight how the hells ganon going to keep up at all, teleport in front of him and before he can do anything Illidan could easily be quarter mile ahead of the guy, who will then teleport again i suppose since its his best bet...its only luck if he actually gets a hit in at all,thats if its possible with illidan hurtling around the battlefield, throwing him about with his shadow/laser beams.

yes you are full of it, your own big headedness and now profanity...you cannot debate, your desperate and now your swearing and bashing like a moody toddler...

no ive not played all the Link games..so.......theres no rule saying i cant debate it, if you cant provide proof like "i" have to provide proof for people who dont know the characters many times and people do it all the time, doesnt mean i cant debate this, it means you cannot.

Originally posted by Burning thought

no, i didnt mean escaping the battlefield, i mean evading and escaping ganons attacks, yes good one, teleportation......hes going to end up teleporting to a space Illidna isnt at anymore when hes moved onto the next area, while in flight how the hells ganon going to keep up at all, teleport in front of him and before he can do anything Illidan could easily be quarter mile ahead of the guy, who will then teleport again i suppose since its his best bet...its only luck if he actually gets a hit in at all,thats if its possible with illidan hurtling around the battlefield, throwing him about with his shadow/laser beams.

yes you are full of it, your own big headedness and now profanity...you cannot debate, your desperate and now your swearing and bashing like a moody toddler...

no ive not played all the Link games..so.......theres no rule saying i cant debate it, if you cant provide proof like "i" have to provide proof for people who dont know the characters many times and people do it all the time, doesnt mean i cant debate this, it means you cannot.

Yeah its clear you're an idiot fanboy.

"I know nothing about the other guy, but he still loses!"

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Idiot fanboy go on ignore[/plucky]

Originally posted by Creshosk
And you wonder why I told you you had no credibility back in the mixed genre teirs thread... You a hypocrite being guilty of everything you accuse me of...

Yeah its clear you're an idiot fanboy.

am i..i tihnk your just accusing me of things i dont do at all...."zomg you dont agree with me, fanboy!!"

id be very suprised if you in any thread......if you debate like this in all of them, how did i have no credbiility?.....your the only one who was really debating it....

once again, you cant debate, so your grabbing for anything, mainly bashing...cant counter my arguments..

yeh would be nice to have your foolishness on ignore, then i wouldnt have to read the rubbish and i can debate with people who want to debate and not bash

And like an idiot knowing he's on ignore he still talks to me... why do they always keep trying to talk to me.. can anyone answer that?

Why are they always so stupid that they waste time trying to say one last thing to me?

Anyone?

Edit: oh and I'm guessing he's talking to me, given that he IS an idiot and all.

It's a simple way to explain why a WoW character can defeat the great bosses..

they are weakened.. for our entertainment pleasure..

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
It's a simple way to explain why a WoW character can defeat the great bosses..

they are weakened.. for our entertainment pleasure..