Originally posted by Darth Extecute
Sure, they are strong.. but many of the bosses are weakened.. Ragnaros vastly, to mention one..
indeed and C'thun after its long slumber and weakness is incredibly weak compared to its old self but as you say for our entertainment they have been weakened, i mean some of the dragons could possibly just fly around one hitting all the clothies if they were not programmed on Aggro like in-game, same with all the bosses actually, any of them could easily take out a Warcraft group, imagine trying to take out half of the tougher bosses if they didnt have aggro and were intelligent to target the clothies first
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Ganon wins. Escaping Ganon's attacks? Castle busting magic wave ftw. Blocking them? Lol, Ganon is vastly physically superior. Tire Ganon out? This is the same Ganon, who in TP, fought 5 fights, and didn't tire at all.
can i see the magic wave? for example it depends on its elevation, speed etc etc..for example Blade of Olympus when charged as you know lets loose an expanding energy that can vapourise titans but its height of the blast wave is not up into the skies and its fairly slow moving.
5 fights wouldnt=illidan constantly circling and blasting him for days if he has to...
Originally posted by Burning thoughtI can't do vids on this laptop. All I can say is look up Ganondorf OoT and you will probably find it.
can i see the magic wave? for example it depends on its elevation, speed etc etc..for example Blade of Olympus when charged as you know lets loose an expanding energy that can vapourise titans but its height of the blast wave is not up into the skies and its fairly slow moving.5 fights wouldnt=illidan constantly circling and blasting him for days if he has to...
Dude, you are now assuming Illidan will never tire.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I can't do vids on this laptop. All I can say is look up Ganondorf OoT and you will probably find it.Dude, you are now assuming Illidan will never tire.
Illidan has all kinds of magics, Arcane is one of them and arcane in warcraft has rejuvination, as does Nature hes going to last longer than Ganon imo with these things quite handily, or he could just blast a hundred miles away and rest somewhere, i dont imagine Ganons teleport would allow him to teleport several hundreds of miles, let alone he isnt Omnicient so he wouldnt know where Illidan is.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtGanon has some form of enhanced awareness, allowing him to see things despite not being present. Not quite cosmic tho. Also, Illidan will run out of magic, unlike Ganon, who's supply is infinate. Also, what do you mean by blast a hundred miles away? Not to mention he would lose due to BFR.
Illidan has all kinds of magics, Arcane is one of them and arcane in warcraft has rejuvination, as does Nature hes going to last longer than Ganon imo with these things quite handily, or he could just blast a hundred miles away and rest somewhere, i dont imagine Ganons teleport would allow him to teleport several hundreds of miles, let alone he isnt Omnicient so he wouldnt know where Illidan is.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Ganon has some form of enhanced awareness, allowing him to see things despite not being present. Not quite cosmic tho. Also, Illidan will run out of magic, unlike Ganon, who's supply is infinate. Also, what do you mean by blast a hundred miles away? Not to mention he would lose due to BFR.
well how large is the battlefield? if its got no limits or its one world illidan can go somewhere else on the world, illidan as youve seen can move like lightning, he could be miles away and ganon wouldnt know where to get to him.
Illidans magic is finite?.......Ganons magic is infnite? excellent..mana tap for the win..mana drain..he will gain ganons infnite magic as well to himself
Originally posted by Burning thought1. B.F.R. It is a pussy move that is total gayness, and is a loss. It is used mostly in debates for ways to beat Juggernaut, who can't be harmed. Also, I could be a dick and say Ganon does the same, only he just goes and kills Link and Zelda for full Triforce, then wishes to be omnipotent. Do you really want me to do that?
well how large is the battlefield? if its got no limits or its one world illidan can go somewhere else on the world, illidan as youve seen can move like lightning, he could be miles away and ganon wouldnt know where to get to him.Illidans magic is finite?.......Ganons magic is infnite? excellent..mana tap for the win..mana drain..he will gain ganons infnite magic as well to himself
2. How does mana tap work again?
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. B.F.R. It is a pussy move that is total gayness, and is a loss. It is used mostly in debates for ways to beat Juggernaut, who can't be harmed. Also, I could be a dick and say Ganon does the same, only he just goes and kills Link and Zelda for full Triforce, then wishes to be omnipotent. Do you really want me to do that?2. How does mana tap work again?
1. if you say so...but no waht your claiming is to go and take items from characters who are not in the battle, otherwise i could go and say Illidan goes begs Kil'jaeden to beat Ganon OR other allies, Kaelthus for example
2. Mana tap or drain (forget the name) is draining magic from your enemy basically put, so Illidan will be able to leech onto Ganons magic and take it for his own gain at the same time as ganon if his magic is infnite, then hes going to have infnite magic as well as Illidan will.
Originally posted by Burning thought1. Kay. None of that compares to an omnipotent being.
1. if you say so...but no waht your claiming is to go and take items from characters who are not in the battle, otherwise i could go and say Illidan goes begs Kil'jaeden to beat Ganon OR other allies, Kaelthus for example2. Mana tap or drain (forget the name) is draining magic from your enemy basically put, so Illidan will be able to leech onto Ganons magic and take it for his own gain at the same time as ganon if his magic is infnite, then hes going to have infnite magic as well as Illidan will.
2. Does it do it til the opponent's mana runs out?
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Kay. None of that compares to an omnipotent being.2. Does it do it til the opponent's mana runs out?
1. hed be a gonner before he can wish for anything tho, i mean hell how does the triforce work? he needs to wish for the thing he wants.
2. its hard to describe, mana just pours of the target and gives the caster magical energy, not until it runs out, an amount of it. Although i could be wrong, it could be until it runs out but then that would be even more in Illidans favour.
Originally posted by Burning thought1.He'd of already had it. The Triforce works two ways, you can hold all pieces to hold great power, or you could make a wish by removing it from your body and touching it.
1. hed be a gonner before he can wish for anything tho, i mean hell how does the triforce work? he needs to wish for the thing he wants.2. its hard to describe, mana just pours of the target and gives the caster magical energy, not until it runs out, an amount of it. Although i could be wrong, it could be until it runs out but then that would be even more in Illidans favour.
2. Then it would only add some of Ganon's infinate power...if that makes sense...
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1.He'd of already had it. The Triforce works two ways, you can hold all pieces to hold great power, or you could make a wish by removing it from your body and touching it.2. Then it would only add some of Ganon's infinate power...if that makes sense...
1. *shrug* irrelvent anyway on with the debate 🙂
2. yes but he can do it as much as he likes, so if he ever gets low on energy he can do this to fill himself up..and again and again as much as needed, its barely a gesture and energy flows from ganon into illidan so illidan would be just as infnite in magic as ganon is...diffrence being, Illidan can do more with his magic.
whats Ganons resistances like? has he resisted many spells?
Originally posted by Burning thoughtIllidan do more with magic? Lol, since when? And don't give me that "He ate the skull of Guldan and drank from Well of Eternity" crap, I want actual feats. Ganon has resisted...everything except Light Arrows and Master Sword. Wtf are we arguing for, Mana Tap won't even affect him. Not to mention even if it did, what would Illy do with it? Pelt Ganon with more spells that wouldn't hurt him?
1. *shrug* irrelvent anyway on with the debate 🙂2. yes but he can do it as much as he likes, so if he ever gets low on energy he can do this to fill himself up..and again and again as much as needed, its barely a gesture and energy flows from ganon into illidan so illidan would be just as infnite in magic as ganon is...diffrence being, Illidan can do more with his magic.
whats Ganons resistances like? has he resisted many spells?
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Illidan do more with magic? Lol, since when? And don't give me that "He ate the skull of Guldan and drank from Well of Eternity" crap, I want actual feats. Ganon has resisted...everything except Light Arrows and Master Sword. Wtf are we arguing for, Mana Tap won't even affect him. Not to mention even if it did, what would Illy do with it? Pelt Ganon with more spells that wouldn't hurt him?
since when? since before anything he was the most powerful elven magi in warcraft, or considred to be among them, thats a powerful thing in itself considering the elves back then were magic masters when they had their well of eternity, Illidan pulls spells out of his @ss it seems when he needs them, he has Arcane, elemental magics and now he has Shadow thanks to a lot of other powers. Its in the lore.
Resisted..so whats he gonna do when Illidan casts sheep? has he ever resisted a spell liek that?.....he will become a sheep....OR illidan could just cast negations on Ganon, Dispel magic...to block any spell Ganon casts and silence him for a time being. illidans an Arcane magic monkey....hed laugh at Ganons attempts at wizardry....Mana tap wont affect him, according? its not a damage dealer at all and doesnt affect his body, it affects his energies and spirirts, his magic energy, it will be drained into illidan..
Originally posted by Burning thought1. And? That proves what? That he is a powerful spellcaster even for an Elf? Also, Malfurion was at least his equal btw.
since when? since before anything he was the most powerful elven magi in warcraft, or considred to be among them, thats a powerful thing in itself considering the elves back then were magic masters when they had their well of eternity, Illidan pulls spells out of his @ss it seems when he needs them, he has Arcane, elemental magics and now he has Shadow thanks to a lot of other powers. Its in the lore.Resisted..so whats he gonna do when Illidan casts sheep? has he ever resisted a spell liek that?.....he will become a sheep....OR illidan could just cast negations on Ganon, Dispel magic...to block any spell Ganon casts and silence him for a time being. illidans an Arcane magic monkey....hed laugh at Ganons attempts at wizardry....Mana tap wont affect him, according? its not a damage dealer at all and doesnt affect his body, it affects his energies and spirirts, his magic energy, it will be drained into illidan..
2. Ganon would laugh at Illidan's feeble attempts at harming him. He would just fvck with him and summon monsters to go piss off Illidan, after Illidan kills them revive them, and when Illidan is pissed off and acting stupid, Ganon just ends it by popping his head in the palm of his hand.