Copyright theft and comic downloads

Started by NiñoAraña10 pages

Originally posted by Utrigita
And those logs can just as easy be altered.

(know he is banned just getting a weird kick out of responding to a member who cannot reply back)

Zeebeedee CAN respond to you

ermmnone

Originally posted by Alt. Account
You have any evidence or proof to support this statement? No, that's right you don't however your unprovoked attack is a troll post. Troll!
😆 PWNT

Guess I didn't need to show any evidence.

As for whipping your hard drive unless you completely destroy, physically destroy the hard drive the can retrieve information from it. You may make it hard for the average computer geek but as long as there is any trace of the drive they can get info from it.

Originally posted by NiñoAraña
Zeebeedee CAN respond to you

ermmnone

then let him 😛

Originally posted by Utrigita
Then its good a Program like Killdisk ore Autonuke exist.

If someone wants the data, they can still get it, even after a hundred times disk wipe/rewrite.

Prove it

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Originally posted by Soljer
If someone wants the data, they can still get it, even after a hundred times disk wipe/rewrite.

After hundreds rewrites and a magnet wipe it would it would take weeks to get anything at all.

Plus, sledgehammer 😐

Originally posted by Soljer
If someone wants the data, they can still get it, even after a hundred times disk wipe/rewrite.

Not from the harddrive, it is reset to look exactly the way it looked when it was created. all zeroes no pogram can get anything with meaning out of such a hard drive.

And KillDisk isn't just wipe/rewrite it's total annihilation of all information.

unless of cause this makes sense

00000

instead of 10010

Originally posted by Soljer
....Uhhmmm...

Hate to break it to you (you dirty dirty thieves), but it's quite easy to obtain information from a hard drive even after it's been passed by magnets.

I mean, if the police feel like expending the time and resources.


I live in a small town, the chances of the police actually expending those resources to bust a downloader are slim to none(and most of the cops here are morons who probably couldn't retrieve the data anyway). Besides as I said before, what do you have to lose from trying? If you do NOTHING then you're busted for sure, at least with my way you have a chance...

Originally posted by darthgoober
Not necessarily, smart pirates line the inside of their front door with magnets so that in the event of a raid, the hard drive will be erased when the cops carry it out the door. No evidence= no case= no penalty 😉 .

Not quite.

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/10/riaa-jury-finds.html

DULUTH, Minnesota -- Jammie Thomas, a single mother of two, was found liable Thursday for copyright infringement in the nation's first file-sharing case to go before a jury.

Originally posted by Avlon
Not quite.

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/10/riaa-jury-finds.html

this is weird you can get judged without even having used the computer.

"In proving liability, the industry did not have to demonstrate that the defendant's computer had a file-sharing program installed at the time that they inspected her hard drive. And the RIAA did not have to show that the defendant was at the keyboard when RIAA investigators accessed Thomas' share folder"

It means that I can be accused and my computer taken they doesn't find anything but I still get convicted that's just weird.

also this.

"This is what can happen if you don't settle," RIAA attorney Richard Gabriel told reporters outside the courthouse. "I think we have sent a message we are willing to go to trial."

If the had settled (at a very smaller amount I'm sure) they would basically still have been happy.

and on top of that they basically leave out the most important evidence

The jury found her liable after receiving evidence her internet protocol address and cable modem identifier were used to share some 1,700 files. The hard drive linked to Kazaa on Feb. 21, 2005 -- the evening in question -- did not become evidence in the case.

According to testimony, Thomas replaced her hard drive weeks after RIAA investigators accessed her share file and discovered 1,702 files. The industry sued on just 24 of those files.

Great Trail one out of hundres of thousends cases that involves a group that attack the people on floor instead of going after the sites that share the files because they know they will lose.

Also she could sue them for hacking into her computer.

Originally posted by Utrigita
this is weird you can get judged without even having used the computer.

"In proving liability, the industry did not have to demonstrate that the defendant's computer had a file-sharing program installed at the time that they inspected her hard drive. And the RIAA did not have to show that the defendant was at the keyboard when RIAA investigators accessed Thomas' share folder"

It means that I can be accused and my computer taken they doesn't find anything but I still get convicted that's just weird.

also this.

"This is what can happen if you don't settle," RIAA attorney Richard Gabriel told reporters outside the courthouse. "I think we have sent a message we are willing to go to trial."

If the had settled (at a very smaller amount I'm sure) they would basically still have been happy.

and on top of that they basically leave out the most important evidence

The jury found her liable after receiving evidence her internet protocol address and cable modem identifier were used to share some 1,700 files. The hard drive linked to Kazaa on Feb. 21, 2005 -- the evening in question -- did not become evidence in the case.

According to testimony, Thomas replaced her hard drive weeks after RIAA investigators accessed her share file and discovered 1,702 files. The industry sued on just 24 of those files.

Great Trail one out of hundres of thousends cases that involves a group that attack the people on floor instead of going after the sites that share the files because they know they will lose.

Also she could sue them for hacking into her computer.

It's what makes the case so interesting.

According to testimony, Thomas replaced her hard drive weeks after RIAA investigators accessed her share file and discovered 1,702 files. The industry sued on just 24 of those files.

It doesn't appear that they hacked into anything in this case.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Not from the harddrive, it is reset to look exactly the way it looked when it was created. all zeroes no pogram can get anything with meaning out of such a hard drive.

And KillDisk isn't just wipe/rewrite it's total annihilation of all information.

unless of cause this makes sense

00000

instead of 10010

You clearly know very little about digital storage....😬.

What do you think a wipe/rewrite IS?

10011011

Wipe

00000000

Rewrite

00110111

Wipe

00000000

However, to put this simply, the ones and zeros AREN'T ones and zeros. They are positive and negative magnetic fields. When you wipe and rewrite and wipe and rewrite (exactly what you're talking about), the magnetic field isn't fully +1 or -1. It loses a little information each time, becoming a little closer in magnitude to zero. It's a complicated process, but law enforcement can very easily obtain information even after a disk's been wiped clean, with a few algorithms and the analysis of the true magnitudes of the magnetic field.

Originally posted by Avlon
It's what makes the case so interesting.

It doesn't appear that they hacked into anything in this case.

I agree

Originally posted by Soljer
You clearly know very little about digital storage....😬.

What do you think a wipe/rewrite IS?

10011011

Wipe

00000000

Rewrite

00110111

Wipe

00000000

However, to put this simply, the ones and zeros AREN'T ones and zeros. They are positive and negative magnetic fields. When you wipe and rewrite and wipe and rewrite (exactly what you're talking about), the magnetic field isn't fully +1 or -1. It loses a little information each time, becoming a little closer in magnitude to zero. It's a complicated process, but law enforcement can very easily obtain information even after a disk's been wiped clean, with a few algorithms and the analysis of the true magnitudes of the magnetic field.

I know all about it thank you very much, I was just under the impression that you actually knew more about removing digital information with the programs like AutoNuke ore Killdisk, at which point no program can rewrite the digital information back. unless of cause you can reconstruct information from a harddrive that is exactly the same as a newly produced Harddrive 😕

Yes if I formate it they can, but if I use Killdisk Ore Autonuke they will no matter what kind of programs they use be looking at harddrive that lookes exactly like a newly produced one. 😬 And if it that is't enough I can always use eraser to further scrample information beneath three lair of noise each above 400 bit.

Originally posted by Avlon
Not quite.

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/10/riaa-jury-finds.html

Dammit Avy, your worse than Buzz Killington 😛

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Are you asking for a download source? That's illegal man.

Good thing no one here does it 🙂

no on here does it you say ? lots of people been asking where to download certain torrents for comics. and lots of those sites are ilegal. one thing i dont get if its ielegal to use those sites and stuff then why are they open in the net. any website you make it has to be approved 1st and checked out by internet patrol.

Originally posted by spidey-dude
no on here does it you say ? lots of people been asking where to download certain torrents for comics. and lots of those sites are ilegal. one thing i dont get if its ielegal to use those sites and stuff then why are they open in the net. any website you make it has to be approved 1st and checked out by internet patrol.

I just saw a guy put up links to scans of about half of the Superman Prime oneshot. This forum is so illegal.

Oh look Whirly has returned......

Originally posted by Estacado
Oh look Whirly has returned......

😘

Originally posted by Soljer
You clearly know very little about digital storage....😬.

What do you think a wipe/rewrite IS?

10011011

Wipe

00000000

Rewrite

00110111

Wipe

00000000

However, to put this simply, the ones and zeros AREN'T ones and zeros. They are positive and negative magnetic fields. When you wipe and rewrite and wipe and rewrite (exactly what you're talking about), the magnetic field isn't fully +1 or -1. It loses a little information each time, becoming a little closer in magnitude to zero. It's a complicated process, but law enforcement can very easily obtain information even after a disk's been wiped clean, with a few algorithms and the analysis of the true magnitudes of the magnetic field.

What. The. ****.