Storm, Iceman, and Magneto vs. Superman

Started by 2damnloud11 pages

Originally posted by Blair Wind
While I tend to stay out of debates that involve you in any way I can, this question would be a no.

Iceman would evaporate (unintentionally) if Superman were to speed him to the sun at his super speeds. He would of course still be alive, and fully functional, but at those speeds his ice form would evaporate.

And would he now be inside Superman.

😂 @ how that looks.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Scan.

I can't believe you'd need a scan of Superman catching bullets. Why even debate if you don't know the character?

Don't get pissy with me because what you say still doesn't add up.

Proof.

Therein lies the problem.

You just can't accpet it for what is was.

Again, limited cognitive abilities.


If limited cognitive abilities involves analyzing every detail to its fullest and not being biased towards my favorite characters, then I'll just go sit in the corner and cry on my pillow of objective observations.

Just what it says.

Why wouldn't she be able to do it based on her history or her powerset?

Anyone with a monicum of common sense would say, "Oh damn, she must have a good variety of abilities to apply her powers to. They include, but are not limited to weather manipulation."

This premise works.

Simple.

Your premise is riddled with fallacies and shit that you use as qualifier that has NOOOOO correlation to feat of contention.

It's funny, really.

I guess the "not limited to" part is where you get stuck because (logical fallacy) she can't do A like a certain character (usually someone like magneto, Iceman, Silver Surfer or better sill, The Phoenix Force[they are the usual qualifiers] she must not be able to do xyz(which she's already been shown to do) at least "not completely"(phrases like that make it fit into your little box so you can reconcile and understand it).


What the gumble do you think you're talking about. Correlate this pile of nonsense to things I've actually said.

Instead of taking the evidence for what it is, you try to make it something else. See the preceeding quote/response for example-- "The narrative is incomplete" or what the writer says about his own work means "dick". Who the **** are you supposed to be?? It's hard to really get anywhere with someone who refuses to accept evidence and draw a conclusion from there like the any normal person. You have to twist the evidence to make your premise true.

This is an ironic paragraph here, but I'll continue. Chris Claremont is obsolete. I could become a writer tomorrow and say anything Storm has done was a result of reading a Bazooka Joe comic and thinking she did it instead of the characters within the comic. Chris Claremont's words become void. The current writer holds the entire characters history in his or her pen and will always have that power over a previous writer. So you better get to work on brown nosing whoever's writing Storm at the moment or they won't be able to see you in the herds of other fanboys trying to play up their favorite character.

We've critique said evidence ad nauseum and I even got the writer from 25 ****in years ago to cosign me. So the panel is credible within those perameters.

Your premise is false, and accepting the panel and writers own words then, and NOW would make it even more false.


Ahem, you've. Debate isn't a one way street. For the rest, see above.

And infact the comics do count. That's why she's done even BIGGER stunts than that just recently which is Marvel contrinuity. 😄

Feats don't work retroactively, Lewis, unless it's an actual retcon.

This, again, supports my premise of her powers in that they include, but are not limited to, weather manipulation.

NOT LIMITED TO.


Who has two thumbs and never said Storm was limited to just weather manipulation? This guy!

In fact, I'm pretty sure I said the opposite, if you can wrap your head around that one.

You accept what you can ingest(weather manip) and reject what you can't(numerous feats you can't understand).

Again, proof.

Of course this only includes rational people who don't ommit shit that doesn't make their broken down, shit-logic work.

Who are you referencing in this one? Because that's kind of the basis of all your arguments isn't it? Crying about people bringing up Storm's every day feats and saying they don't count?

Originally posted by Blair Wind
While I tend to stay out of debates that involve you in any way I can, this question would be a no.

Iceman would evaporate (unintentionally) if Superman were to speed him to the sun at his super speeds. He would of course still be alive, and fully functional, but at those speeds his ice form would evaporate.

Superman could always Super-Duper freeze iceman before he chunks him into outerspace.

ermm. Or something.

Things frozen with Superman's breath have survived the friction of being flung into the cosmos in the past....

Well when Aurora/Northstar melted Ice Man's human body he turned into vapour and nearly would apparently have died if it wasn't for Mystique's save. Is Iceman invincible? Hardly.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Well when Aurora/Northstar melted Ice Man's human body he turned into vapour and nearly would apparently have died if it wasn't for Mystique's save. Is Iceman invincible? Hardly.

Is Iceman invincible? Nah.

Is he ridiculously inconsistent? Yeah.

Sometimes being vaporized almost kills him, sometimes it's exactly what he hopes will happen. 😬.

Originally posted by Soljer
Is Iceman invincible? Nah.

Is he ridiculously inconsistent? Yeah.

Sometimes being vaporized almost kills him, sometimes it's exactly what he hopes will happen. 😬.

Indeed, but tis board tends to believe he IS invincible, and that irks me.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Well when Aurora/Northstar melted Ice Man's human body he turned into vapour and nearly would apparently have died if it wasn't for Mystique's save. Is Iceman invincible? Hardly.

Let us notice what you just said. Human body blown up into vapor. It was a miracle he went from human to vapor at all.

Last times he was blown up in Iceman form he did just fine (sentinels, absorbed by fire guy, and teleporting into matter) and recovered instantly.

There IS a difference

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Let us notice what you just said. [b]Human body It was a miracle he went from human to vapor

Last time he was blown up in Iceman form he did just fine (sentinels, and teleporting into matter) and recovered instantly.

There IS a difference [/B]

They said in the issue he transformed before he completly was incinerated so meh! It irked me as the part where he nearly died in that issue was left completly out of the respect thread ignoring that part of the story. Context is everything

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Indeed, but tis board tends to believe he IS invincible, and that irks me.

Blasphemy!

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I can't believe you'd need a scan of Superman catching bullets. Why even debate if you don't know the character?

Proof.

If limited cognitive abilities involves analyzing every detail to its fullest and not being biased towards my favorite characters, then I'll just go sit in the corner and cry on my pillow of objective observations.

What the gumble do you think you're talking about. Correlate this pile of nonsense to things I've actually said.

This is an ironic paragraph here, but I'll continue. Chris Claremont is obsolete. I could become a writer tomorrow and say anything Storm has done was a result of reading a Bazooka Joe comic and thinking she did it instead of the characters within the comic. Chris Claremont's words become void. The current writer holds the entire characters history in his or her pen and will always have that power over a previous writer. So you better get to work on brown nosing whoever's writing Storm at the moment or they won't be able to see you in the herds of other fanboys trying to play up their favorite character.

Ahem, you've. Debate isn't a one way street. For the rest, see above.

Feats don't work retroactively, Lewis, unless it's an actual retcon.

Who has two thumbs and never said Storm was limited to just weather manipulation? This guy!

In fact, I'm pretty sure I said the opposite, if you can wrap your head around that one.

Again, proof.

Who are you referencing in this one? Because that's kind of the basis of all your arguments isn't it? Crying about people bringing up Storm's every day feats and saying they don't count?

You

Move on please.

I accept your defeat.

No, just tired.

You can't even argue with a valid premise.

Excuses are the nails used to build a house of failure.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
No, just tired.

You can't even argue with a valid premise.

my god

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Excuses are the nails used to build a house of failure.

You should be the one to talke Mr. "I won't because you won't listen".

Which is a strawman AND an excuse.

Not listening to you= me not accepting your argument based on fallacies.

Come correct or don't come at all.😬

I guess you can't because, well, it would make you wrong from jump street. 😂

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Come correct or don't come at all.😬

I guess you can't because, well, it would make you wrong from jump street. 😂

I just want to mention that I know a few people who are clinically retarded and this fails to match their level of intellectual discourse.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I just want to mention that I know a few people who are clinically retarded and this fails to match their level of intellectual discourse.

Are you mad?? 😂

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Are you mad?? 😂

No, I'm quite sane.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
You should be the one to talke Mr. "I won't because you won't listen".

Which is a strawman AND an excuse.

Not listening to you= me not accepting your argument based on fallacies.

Come correct or don't come at all.😬

I guess you can't because, well, it would make you wrong from jump street. 😂

Take your wikipedia buzzwords and out of context quotes and succeed elsewhere, succeeder.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
You should be the one to talke Mr. "I won't because you won't listen".

Which is a strawman AND an excuse.

Not listening to you= me not accepting your argument based on fallacies.

Come correct or don't come at all.😬

I guess you can't because, well, it would make you wrong from jump street. 😂

youre always good for a laugh 😂 . Thanks for that