Storm, Iceman, and Magneto vs. Superman

Started by 2damnloud11 pages
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
A simple comparison regarding precog that was once used for Flash: If precog character is in a dark room and the light turns on, will that character be able to react before the light hits them?

Light acts as a wave and not a single thing.

Kinda bad comparison

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Light acts as a wave and not a single thing.

Kinda bad comparison

Actually light can be expressed as a wave or particle..

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Light acts as a wave and not a single thing.

Light is both a wave and a particle.

Just to make it three in a row;

Look up wave-particle duality.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Light acts as a wave and not a single thing.

Kinda bad comparison

it can be a wave or a particle my friend

Yea, I know, but not in the context of the example.

😂

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Yea, I know, but not in the context of the example.

????

The light coming from the bulb in Doctor_Alvis' example is acting as a wave.😂

Originally posted by 2damnloud
The light coming from the bulb in Doctor_Alvis' example is acting as a wave.😂

And a particle doped

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
And a particle doped

Not to mention the fact that regardless of whether it's a wave, a particle, or Superman - Storm will be entirely unable to react to something at that speed.

Originally posted by Soljer
Not to mention the fact that regardless of whether it's a wave, a particle, or Superman - Storm will be entirely unable to react to something at that speed.
I thought you knew Strom can move at the speed of warp 15 Superman gets speed blitz.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Light acts as a wave and not a single thing.

Kinda bad comparison


Way to pick at an analogy instead of the point of the analogy.

Originally posted by iceman24567
I thought you knew Strom can move at the speed of warp 15 Superman gets speed blitz.

There is no Warp15. Warp10 is defined in StarTrek as being literally instantaneous movement.

The speed of the light is irrelevant when you can plot the power source which makes the light work.

Doesn't light only move at that speed in a vaccum??

Originally posted by 2damnloud
The speed of the light is irrelevant when you can plot the power source which makes the light work.

Doesn't light only move at that speed in a vaccum??

How perfectly irrelevant of you.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
The speed of the light is irrelevant when you can plot the power source which makes the light work.

Doesn't light only move at that speed in a vaccum??

So, if you turn on the lights, can you dodge the the light because you know where its coming from?

Originally posted by 2damnloud
The speed of the light is irrelevant when you can plot the power source which makes the light work.

Doesn't light only move at that speed in a vaccum??

Also, light moves at one hundred and eighty six thousand m/s all the time. c is a constant.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
The speed of the light is irrelevant when you can plot the power source which makes the light work.

Doesn't light only move at that speed in a vaccum??


It's completely relevant if you can't react to the source before the light plucks your eyes out.

And yeah, but it's just for demonstrative purposes.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
And I think she has concentrated the full power of a Storm into a single blast.

She should try skipping the Storm too. Put that into the blast.

CC's response

Means dick now.

Sp in essence, it doesn't matter how "far" the stars were because limitation was not apart of her reality at that time.

It's not her distance that makes the feat as you describe it not make sense. It's A) supposedly absorbing more energy than could actually reach her. She has no ability or history of having that effect on EM radiation. B) Monstrous leap in absorption capacity. Absorbing blizzards or hurricanes is absolutely no correlation.

Going by the art and her character history, it seems quite clear that she went for broke and, could of, summoned the whole, but only absorbed so much before she burned out. Her dying being attributed only to lack of atmosphere is bogus.

Theres also the hint of a mystical element as well as apart of her powers.

The awe of that varies from comic to comic.

Storm is infact aware of what she's doing on that atomic level. She can see electrons and energy patterns behind the weather and see matter as energy(E=MC^2).

So ****ing what? Does she know what is happening? I doubt it. That is my point.

Storm's powers being weather-based simply means, in my interpretation, just an expression of who/what she was initially created to be. I think it is true that she was meant to be that kinda "goddess" character and the main expression of "God" as we know and encounter everyday and in mythology is "weather" , the elements etc. which encompass all things, not just being good at just ONE thing.

You... get real deep into your comics don't you? Maybe it's just the religious? I wonder what that's like sometimes.

Essentially, she "is" a Magneto an Iceman, a hydrokenetic, aerokenetic and then some.

I'm not talking about what she can do, I'm talking about how they all do it.

Storm can do both of what they do, to a good degree. The EM spectrum is merely different frequencies of the same thing. Storm has already shown that she can use Gamma radiation(the highest energy part of the spectrum) to enhance her powers. That's how she made that Cosmic greenhouse thing.

You talk about Storm the same way Jimmy talks about Superman, Enzo talks about Bob, and my friend Phil talks about Rush.

If Storm wanted to heat a cup of joe, she should be able to make it boiling hot.

Microwaves and lasers don't make heat anymore?

I don't think she should be able to control gravity since there is no logical reason why. 😕

Same way Magneto did it. The same way Graviton manipulated light.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I think you're confusing your common sense with everyone's common sense. Everyone's thought process is different. I'm not saying I'm absolutely correct and objective on the subject, since subjectivity clouds everything, but do you ever contemplate the possibility of yourself making a mistake?

I was completely serious. Never? Everyone should double check themselves.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis

She should try skipping the Storm too. Put that into the blast.

Not really.

She can do both when neccessary.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis

Means dick now.

Nope.

He worte it.

He said she did on panel 25 years ago, and he said she did 25 years later.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis

It's not her distance that makes the feat as you describe it not make sense. It's A) supposedly absorbing more energy than could actually reach her. She has no ability or history of having that effect on EM radiation. B) Monstrous leap in absorption capacity. Absorbing blizzards or hurricanes is absolutely no correlation.

She made it reach her FASTER perhaps.

Her absorbtion capacity changed based on her perception.

Her perception of what she could and couldn't do was altered. Her whole mindframe was altered and therefore the elements refelcted it.

You're still trying to make it fit into your little stupid-ass box of "history" and the like.

Storm does have a history of accelerating naturally occuring phenomena(history)

Poeple change. She runs the whole gambit, again, from watering her plants to absorbing the galactic core or eternity's essence.

Just something you're going to have to deal with.

All of those things are part and parcel apart of storm, not just the ones you can understand with limited cognitive capacity.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis

Going by the art and her character history, it seems quite clear that she went for broke and, could of, summoned the whole, but only absorbed so much before she burned out. Her dying being attributed only to lack of atmosphere is bogus.

It doesn't say anything of the kind. It says "ENTIRE".

Do you get it???

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis

So ****ing what? Does she know what is happening? I doubt it. That is my point.

Why wouldn't she know what is happening??😂

Perception, with respect tot he mind, is synonymous with actually knowing what is going on.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis

You... get real deep into your comics don't you? Maybe it's just the religious? I wonder what that's like sometimes.

The writers make a religious theme and undertones.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis

I'm not talking about what she can do, I'm talking about how they all do it.

I already said how they all do it.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis

Same way Magneto did it. The same way Graviton manipulated light.

Magneto didn't, though. He created a counteractive force(diamangetism)