Ganon v.s. Dante

Started by Violent2Dope5 pages

Originally posted by Remindme
So, a Master swordsman with the most powerful blade in it's game, can only beat Ganondorf with help & PIS....V2D, remindme why Ganon doesn't curb Dante...
Well, I don't wanna say he does mostly cuz I do lack knowledge on Dante.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Well, I don't wanna say he does mostly cuz I do lack knowledge on Dante.

Meh i base an opinion on the evidence presented then alter it as new evidence comes into light.

The current evidence suggests a curb IMO

Meh...

That is speed. Ganon while near death collapsed his castle and lived.

Speed my ass. A feat like that is extreme skill with a sword, you could have all the seed in the world but if you're unskilled there's no way in hell you're going to pull that off.

And Dante is basically invincible. While Ganon needs the triforce for his durability, Dante has swords go completely through his chest and gets up like nothing happened, and this is just wih his power.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Speed my ass. A feat like that is extreme skill with a sword, you could have all the seed in the world but if you're unskilled there's no way in hell you're going to pull that off.

And Dante is basically invincible. While Ganon needs the triforce for his durability, Dante has swords go completely through his chest and gets up like nothing happened, and this is just wih his power.

Sonic has all the speed in the world, you saying he can stop 4 bullets?

Like me finish that for you:
While Ganon needs the triforce for his durability, Dante needs his demon heritage.

Even then, Ganon has shown more durability than Dante

Sonic has all the speed in the world, you saying he can stop 4 bullets?

No, did you even read what I wrote? I said stopping and lining up bullets in a row with your sword is entirely skill with a blade, it isn't something you can do with just speed as v2d suggested.


Like me finish that for you:
While Ganon needs the triforce for his durability, Dante needs his demon heritage.

His demon heritage is a part of him. Dante was born with his power, it is in him naturally. Ganon needs an external source for it. This means that Dante needs no help to be that strong, while Ganon needs an external power source.

Even then, Ganon has shown more durability than Dante

Not really.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
No, did you even read what I wrote? I said stopping and lining up bullets in a row with your sword is entirely skill with a blade, it isn't something you can do with just speed as v2d suggested.

Vergil did that, not Dante, and Vergil is far more skilled with a blade than Dante.

Dante could not do that, it took all his might to block them, Vergil blocked them casually

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
[QUOTE=9683719]Originally posted by fascistcrusader
[B]His demon heritage is a part of him. Dante was born with his power, it is in him naturally. Ganon needs an external source for it. This means that Dante needs no help to be that strong, while Ganon needs an external power source.

The triforce becomes a part of Ganon, I'm not 100% but i believe in Twilight Princess he always had it.

Also, i do not know what this proves, doesn't change the fact Ganon is going to stomp on Dante

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Not really.
Yes, Really

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Speed my ass. A feat like that is extreme skill with a sword, you could have all the seed in the world but if you're unskilled there's no way in hell you're going to pull that off.

And Dante is basically invincible. While Ganon needs the triforce for his durability, Dante has swords go completely through his chest and gets up like nothing happened, and this is just wih his power.

No, he is very fast, so those bullets seem to go far slower to him, this is a simple concept. Give me the Speedforce and a sword, I could do it.

Ganon even without the ToP could take several Light Arrows to his body in WW, compared to the normal one hit kill it does to almost anything else.

Vergil did that, not Dante, and Vergil is far more skilled with a blade than Dante.

Dante could not do that, it took all his might to block them, Vergil blocked them casually

It didn't take all of Dante's strength, there is nothing to suggest Dante couldn't do it as well, especiall considering Dante has beaten Vergil.

The triforce becomes a part of Ganon, I'm not 100% but i believe in Twilight Princess he always had it.

Also, i do not know what this proves, doesn't change the fact Ganon is going to stomp on Dante

This isn't hard to understand. Link beats Ganon, Dante is far greater in power, speed and swordsmanship than Link. Ganon could not curb stomp Dante.

Yes, Really

Nope. See above.

No, he is very fast, so those bullets seem to go far slower to him, this is a simple concept. Give me the Speedforce and a sword, I could do it.

No you couldn't. If three objects were travelling at you at 5 miles an hour around chest height, you would not be able to line them up on the ground using one smooth motion of your sword.

Ganon even without the ToP could take several Light Arrows to his body in WW, compared to the normal one hit kill it does to almost anything else.

And dante has lengendary, extremely powerful swords go completely through his chest and is 100% fine, that is far more impressive.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
No, he is very fast, so those bullets seem to go far slower to him, this is a simple concept. Give me the Speedforce and a sword, I could do it.

Ganon even without the ToP could take several Light Arrows to his body in WW, compared to the normal one hit kill it does to almost anything else.

GanonDORF, that is. And he didn't have his ToP then? How come Link was in possession of his?

Oh yeah, removing Dante's demon heritage would be like removing Spierman's spidey powers and not to mention, it's in his friggin' DNA, he was born that way.

Originally posted by IceJaw
GanonDORF, that is. And he didn't have his ToP then? How come Link was in possession of his?

Oh yeah, removing Dante's demon heritage would be like removing Spierman's spidey powers and not to mention, it's in his friggin' DNA, he was born that way.

100% agree.

Originally posted by IceJaw
Oh yeah, removing Dante's demon heritage would be like removing Spierman's spidey powers and not to mention, it's in his friggin' DNA, he was born that way.

I don't recall saying to remove it, merely pointing out that is why Dante has super natural abilities.

Ganon has super natural abilites way before he can into possession of the power part of the triforce

Originally posted by Remindme
I don't recall saying to remove it, merely pointing out that is why Dante has super natural abilities.

Ganon has super natural abilites way before he can into possession of the power part of the triforce

Dante's demonic abilities- inborn, amplified by external sourses (Devil Arms).
Ganon's supernatural abilities- learned and gained from external sourses for most part.

And as for deflecting bullets with sword...Vergil caught and lined up them on the blade of his katana in one motion- the last part is surely a display of skill, whether Dante, who's less skilled with just sword than his bro (due to be an expert in wide array of weapons and not just an expert in swords), merely deflects bullets and cuts them in midair (which are good combat and reaction speed feats) which takes far less skill than Vergil's sending bullets just back- Dante isn't THAT precise with his sword. Though he's a godd swordsman without any doubt.

Originally posted by IceJaw
GanonDORF, that is. And he didn't have his ToP then? How come Link was in possession of his?

Oh yeah, removing Dante's demon heritage would be like removing Spierman's spidey powers and not to mention, it's in his friggin' DNA, he was born that way.

He didn't have it in WW when he fought Link cause King Hyrule made a wish upon the full pieces and they disappeared.

Yet Link was still able to use the Master Sword at it's full potential and didn't that require, say, a Triforce? But is that really relevant? No, 'cause that was Ganondorf.

Originally posted by Remindme
I don't recall saying to remove it, merely pointing out that is why Dante has super natural abilities.

Ganon has super natural abilites way before he can into possession of the power part of the triforce


Never said you did, but discussing about it is completely pointless.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Dante's demonic abilities- inborn, amplified by external sourses (Devil Arms).
Ganon's supernatural abilities- learned and gained from external sourses for most part.

And as for deflecting bullets with sword...Vergil caught and lined up them on the blade of his katana in one motion- the last part is surely a display of skill, whether Dante, who's less skilled with just sword than his bro (due to be an expert in wide array of weapons and not just an expert in swords), merely deflects bullets and cuts them in midair (which are good combat and reaction speed feats) which takes far less skill than Vergil's sending bullets just back- Dante isn't THAT precise with his sword. Though he's a godd swordsman without any doubt.


Not to mention a Katana is a whole lot lighter and that was when he was young, in DMC1 they fight eachother with the same type of weapon (excluding the guns), heavy swords and Dante bested him. Again.

Originally posted by IceJaw
Yet Link was still able to use the Master Sword at it's full potential, but is that really relevant? No, 'cause that was Ganondorf..
What?

Hey, I'm still editing.

I'm talking about the top point, wtf are you talking about?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I'm talking about the top point, wtf are you talking about?

Could you possibly be less specific? What's so hard to understand? That GanonDORF's full piece "disappeared" and Link and Zelda kept theirs and that I think that doesn't make much sense or that it's irrelevant?

Originally posted by IceJaw
Could you possibly be less specific? What's so hard to understand? That GanonDORF's full piece "disappeared" and Link and Zelda kept theirs and that I think that doesn't make much sense or that it's irrelevant?
Oh I see. Not, using the Master Sword's full power does not require a Triforce Piece, they all lost their pieces, which only hindered Ganon, as he was the only one who knew how to use it.