Arthas Menethil v.s. Ryu Hayabusa

Started by Sol Valentine7 pages

From the videos, I think hayabusa can survive getting his will raped.

Your taking the piss if your think i'm reading and watching all that.

And how is it they say.....Prove it

Hey, SBP posted all of the scenes and what hapened in sequence, all of those proves it.

Originally posted by Sol Valentine
Hey, SBP posted all of the scenes and what hapened in sequence, all of those proves it.

Nothing you have shown is on Lich King level, if thats all you got Ryu Loses

Didn't I post Ryubusa's respect thread?

Most of these feats are from what SBP posted:
This is a direct transcript of the books Ryu finds throughout the game. These books detail the history of creation, Vigoor, the evil deities, the dragons and even the dragon lineage:

1. The Book of Genesis - In the beginning, a great inconsistency flowed out into the nothing; a nothing that was afraid of its own nothingness, a pure terror without color, without sound and without smell. It formed the root of all deification, and eventually it coalesced into the shape of the first Deity, Gurdu. Gurdu gave birth to all elements and provided them with order and function. In a remote area of space from where Gurdu provided order, there existed the territory of chaos formed from elements without shape. This chaos, which had been forgotten during the blessing of Gurdu, existed at first as only an instinctual fear, but eventually the chaos begin to take shape and a consciousness was formed within it.

At first this was just a small curious presence, but eventually grew and became clearer. This marked the appearance of Hatred. The chaotic nature of Hatred further evolved it, bringing it to the level of a Deity. Thus, the ancestor of all Evil Deities, Vigoor, came into being, and the first conflict set into motion.

2. The Book of Evil Deities - The ancestor of all Evil Deities, Vigoor, began to devour the territory of Gurdu, beginning at its center. During endless solar and lunar eclipses, the earth shook and split, the seas dried up only to flood into existence again, and intense winds swept over everything, and fires burned down all of existence ignoring even the concept of time itself. Eventually Gurdu lost his strength, and the world once again plunged into the chaos from which it had come.

Then a great change occurred. During the throes of unending destruction, the body of Gurdu himself split into quarters. Each part became a Deity itself controlling Sentiment, Wisdom, Creation and Immortality. Eventually, they would come together to return shape to the world again, but in their panic-stricken state after their birth, they still had little power.

3. The Book of Dragons - In this age of panic, the Serpent, Deity of Creation was the only one of the Deities to keep some semblance of sanity. The Serpent gave birth to a tiny presence, something that no other being would ever notice... the seeds of life.

These seeds managed to take hold and grow in the storm of chaos and ever so slightly began to evolve, eventually becoming the Thirteen Dragons, whose destinies were to be found in battle. The Dragons waged an endless battle against Vigoor who never ceased in his attempts to bring the world into a chaos of Hatred. Eventually the Dragons were able to banish Vigoor to the very ends of the world.

However, it was in this period that the youngest and lowliest in position of the Dragons, the Dark Dragon, summoned the Hatred with its feelings of inferiority. Due to this betrayal, Vigoor was able to keep from being
completely destroyed.

4. The Book of the Fiends - The Dark Dragon, now full of evil intent, joined with Vigoor and his spawn of Evil Deities to further capture the territory of Gurdu. This conflict continued throughout the eons of history and during its struggle the first spark of human life appeared in the form of the Ancient Tribes.

Of course, old conflicts never cease, and even in the age of the Ancient
Tribes, the Dragon Lineage and Evil Deities continued their battle for tens of thousands of generations; a struggle that finally ended when members of the Dragon Lineage were able to seal away the Evil Deities and their spawn. However, in that age of chaos, all of the bloodlines of the Ancient Tribes were mixed and the form and nature of the Ancients have been carried on by us, the Fiends.

5. The Book of the Future - The land that the Evil Deity Vigoor once held as his final territory has become this, the land of Vigoor. The treachery of the Dark Dragon also occurred here, and this was where the Ancient Tribes lived. That is why their descendants, us the Fiends, have taken over control of these lands. With this land as a barrier, the power of Vigoor is limited only to this Earth.

Vigoor is the Demon of Destruction and the Deity who creates history; when the decadence of this world has piled up, he will return in a blaze of all-destroying flame and recreate the world. Chaos, like the floods on the banks of a great river, will fulfill this world once again, and we will be the first recipients of this fulfillment. Evolution has and always will begin from here, the land of Vigoor. It has been several hundred years, since the Supreme Fiend Gogohn established what would eventually become the Vigoor Empire here on these lands.

If a new warrior of the Dragon Lineage shall appear, the Holy Emperor shall be infused with the power of the Evil Deities. After seven days, from the unity of His Majesty with the Dark Dragon once again, we Fiends will be blessed with an exquisite harmony.
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The books are self explanatory, and they gives great insight to the power of Vigoor.

Dead or Alive

DOA4 Ryu Hayabusa Ending

Ryu Hayabusa and the members of the Mugen Tenshin Clan have waged war on DOATEC for all the injustice it has brought upon the ninjas.

1. http://youtube.com/watch?v=9LpTk6OLV8A

- As you can see Ryu finishes it quick and destroys those vessels with little effort with a combined use of the Dragon Sword & Nimpo. Talk about skill: Ryu casts Nimpo while being airborne and dodging missiles at the same time.

2. http://youtube.com/watch?v=uuh9o8B5YsM

A collage of various Izuna Drops being performed by Ryu Hayabusa. Note how Ryu instantly teleports to catch his opponent in mid-air and then slam him head first on the ground. One of my favorite moves ever.

DOA 2

These are the cut-scenes before and after each fight in Ryu Hayabusa's Dead or Alive 2 storyline.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NpawQRz_edk

1. Ryu training before the Dead or Alive 2 tournament begins.

2. We can see Ryu's devotion and dedication to his friend Hayate by protecting his sister, Kasumi. Kasumi is a skilled fighter who managed to defeat Raidou--a rogue ninja with the ability to instantly copy techniques, and defeated Hayate before the first tournament, but not before he copied Hayate's Torn Sky Blast--even she couldn't handle Ryu and was forced to stay out of the tournament.

3. Ryu treats Jann Lee like a pushover, and this guy can KO T-Rexes with just 2 blows.

4. Hayabusa encounters the amnesia influenced "Ein", who happens to be Hayate. Ein was captured by DOATEC and experimented upon until he was filed a failure and was thrown in German forests. Hitomi's father found him and taught him Karate. Hayate being a natural quickly masters Karate and enters DOA2. After their fight Ein remembers who he is, and has no choice but to sit back and let Ryu handle the evil Tengu.

5. Hayabusa finally encounters the being causing the inbalance of good & evil:

Bankotsu(or Gohyakumine Bankotsu-bo) is a tengu who is a criminal in his own dimension, as he murdered Kuramasan Maouson - the leader of their race. Fearing punishment for his crimes and breaking Tengu rules, he escaped into the human world. Considering the hopes and struggles of humanity to be insignificant, he decided to bring about ultimate disaster and calamity, covering the world in chaos.

Ryu kills the evil Tengu and becomes the winner of the Dead or Alive 2 tournament

Why are you posting the entire respect thread?

i could do that with the Lich King, but you don't need it all -.-'

DOA3

These are the cut-scenes before and after each fight in Ryu Hayabusa's Dead or Alive 3 storyline.

1. http://youtube.com/watch?v=DJz8ljXRaGk

Note that the player is a scrub/noob and he doesn't really know how to use Hayabusa...heck he didn't even beat the final boss.

- 01:20 into the movie: Ryu Hayabusa is seen teleporting his way to fight Leon.

- 03:26: Ryu faces Hayate, life long friend and rival, and tells the Mugen Tenshin leader that he cannot overcome Genra. Ayane's foster father turned super-weapon, a Hajinmon ninja using the Mugen Tenshin style(hajinmon is a sub-group of the Mugen Tenshin dedicated to black arts & helping the Mugen Tenshin clan)

Hayate tells Ryu it's him who does not stand a chance of beating Genra, and Ryu asks Hayate since when does he think he has grown more powerful than him. Stating that Ryu is either his equal, or possibly superior.

- 04:30: Ryu waits for Genra, and the super powered being makes his pressence known by destroying the village and engulfing it in flames. Ryu manages to dodge the blast that caused the destruction and then faces Genra.

Suppose the player didn't suck and actually beat Genra; this is Ryu's DOA3 ending:

2. http://youtube.com/watch?v=9Rpa1-BCPLc

- Ryu is enjoying his 2 favorite hobbies(fishing & mountain climbing) when all of a sudden he senses a speeding arrow at him. A normal guy would be happy with just dodging the arrow; the Super Ninja has to throw his hat at the arrow, and then grab it with style. I guess it's a requisite for ninjas to be extra stylish.

The letter is a request of the Mugen Tenshin clan for Ryu to help them fight DOATEC. Ryu accepts and burns the letter.

Originally posted by Remindme
Why are you posting the entire respect thread?

i could do that with the Lich King, but you don't need it all -.-'

I thought you didn't feel like reading the respect thread.

He resisted the possession of a fiend through Doku control. And thats a mana Sheidl. What is that going to do aginst a sword in the eye. Ryu sword has limitless power which is something he weilds. Ryu has Resisted Possession and mind effecting situations aginst his enemies Such as Doku and the Vigorien Empire. Your down grading another character to upgrade yours saying Ryu resisting another possession doesnt not compare to him resisting possesiong and mind control aginst another. Ryu's will did not break through out the whole game. From seeing his village massacre, to his childhood freind slaughtered, from a family betrayals being responsible for killing everyone who cared about, AFTER ALL THAt, manages to still overcome the odds fighting not only a Army with some of the most up to date technology, but going aginst a legion of fiend/demons while at the same time taking on greater fiends and still manages to keep his will intact. And thats not even everything from THIS game. Old school there are even more from situation of watching his girlfriend get killed and having to kill a giant humanoid spider monster with his bare hands

So by saying he would rape Ryu's will is nonesense.

Originally posted by Csdabest
He resisted the possession of a fiend through Doku control. And thats a mana Sheidl. What is that going to do aginst a sword in the eye. Ryu sword has limitless power which is something he weilds. Ryu has Resisted Possession and mind effecting situations aginst his enemies Such as Doku and the Vigorien Empire. Your down grading another character to upgrade yours saying Ryu resisting another possession doesnt not compare to him resisting possesiong and mind control aginst another. Ryu's will did not break through out the whole game. From seeing his village massacre, to his childhood freind slaughtered, from a family betrayals being responsible for killing everyone who cared about, AFTER ALL THAt, manages to still overcome the odds fighting not only a Army with some of the most up to date technology, but going aginst a legion of fiend/demons while at the same time taking on greater fiends and still manages to keep his will intact. And thats not even everything from THIS game. Old school there are even more from situation of watching his girlfriend get killed and having to kill a giant humanoid spider monster with his bare hands

So by saying he would rape Ryu's will is nonesense.

Does Doku and the Vigorien Empire have hundreds of thousands of undead under their control, and can see through all their eyes at the same time?

Or did they mind control and brainwash many free willed people from hundreds of miles away to do their bidding?

Untill then they do not compare.

As i said, Lich King doesn't wait for a time of vunerability to strike, he seizes you body, and drains your will out of it. Making it serve him.

Mana sheild is like an invisible barrier, the sword would not get near the eye.

Okay, how about to tell me again, how Ryu survives a death coil? whcih homes in on the target....and is a one hit kill.....

Does Doku and the Vigorien Empire have hundreds of thousands of undead under their control, and can see through all their eyes at the same time?

Yes and most likely. They had control over legions of fiends as well greater fiends. Though never stated he could or couldnt see through their eyes at the same time givien the control is quite possible. But i wont say yes duh...just possibely

Or did they mind control and brainwash many free willed people from hundreds of miles away to do their bidding?

The fiends were all once humans and people of freewill. VE turns people into Fiends practicaly over the WHOLE EMPIRE and its nation. Having his Legion of Fiends overrun the nation. But to answer you question...Yes

Untill then they do not compare.

They did and yes. They do compare

As i said, Lich King doesn't wait for a time of vunerability to strike, he seizes you body, and drains your will out of it. Making it serve him.

Like I said. Ryu has gotten past possessing and seizing of mind,body,and spirit all before. What makes you think Lich King would have an easier time doing it. And What makes you think he would have an easier time. and Just how would Lich king do this with a Ryubusa in his face trying to kill him all at the same time

Mana sheild is like an invisible barrier, the sword would not get near the eye.

Ryu TDS cuts through anything with Evil inside of it. Giving your description., The Guy sounds abit evil taking over and possesing freewilled people and controlling undead. That counts as being evil. So
TDS trumps His mana sheild as its of him and uses his will right. As his Will comes from a evil spirit. and TDS cuts through anything and all of an evil entity

Okay, how about to tell me again, how Ryu survives a death coil? whcih homes in on the target....and is a one hit kill.....

Ryu avoids until he kills him. Ryu uses precog along with teleportation. Or the ninpo he used in DOA4 to destroy that ship in instant vaporizing it. That should basicly destroy it. Or Ryu teleports twice. Once out of the way infront of Lich King and another out of the way so the death coil kills Lich king....It is a a one hit kill right?

Ryu Uses Art of the Spirit CLone to make multiple copies himself so to either possibly throw off the death coil. Or have him send it after the wrong one.

Art of the Inazuma. Use its attack power to cancel it out.

Art of the Inferno uses it to cancel out.

Or uses it to have the elemental barrier to protect them and let the death coil smack into it canceling out.

And if you think that invincibility frame is gameplay only. Ryu can be attack while performing his other 2 Ninpo cancelling him out of it.

Also. Whats to say that Ryu wont just easily tear through Lich Kings mana sheild with shear force.

The Kietsu can probably due the same as it Harnessies the power of the countless souls it has consumed. So what you think the Keistu cant tear through the mana sheild and suck his soul?

Dark Dragon Blade...Ryu turns into the devil incarnate and the only thing that can basicly hurt him is god and the True Dragon Blade. So he is basicly invunverable to harm outside of those weapons. And would just tear lich King apart.

Everything here has been basicly proved within the Game's canon. So please explain to me how Lich King sooo easily trumps Ryu when i Basicly given you counters for everything that should and most likely would work with a high sucess rate

Originally posted by Csdabest
Does Doku and the Vigorien Empire have hundreds of thousands of undead under their control, and can see through all their eyes at the same time?

Yes and most likely. They had control over legions of fiends as well greater fiends. Though never stated he could or couldnt see through their eyes at the same time givien the control is quite possible. But i wont say yes duh...just possibely

Or did they mind control and brainwash many free willed people from hundreds of miles away to do their bidding?

The fiends were all once humans and people of freewill. VE turns people into Fiends practicaly over the WHOLE EMPIRE and its nation. Having his Legion of Fiends overrun the nation. But to answer you question...Yes

Untill then they do not compare.

They did and yes. They do compare

As i said, Lich King doesn't wait for a time of vunerability to strike, he seizes you body, and drains your will out of it. Making it serve him.

Like I said. Ryu has gotten past possessing and seizing of mind,body,and spirit all before. What makes you think Lich King would have an easier time doing it. And What makes you think he would have an easier time. and Just how would Lich king do this with a Ryubusa in his face trying to kill him all at the same time

Mana sheild is like an invisible barrier, the sword would not get near the eye.

Ryu TDS cuts through anything with Evil inside of it. Giving your description., The Guy sounds abit evil taking over and possesing freewilled people and controlling undead. That counts as being evil. So
TDS trumps His mana sheild as its of him and uses his will right. As his Will comes from a evil spirit. and TDS cuts through anything and all of an evil entity

Okay, how about to tell me again, how Ryu survives a death coil? whcih homes in on the target....and is a one hit kill.....

Ryu avoids until he kills him. Ryu uses precog along with teleportation. Or the ninpo he used in DOA4 to destroy that ship in instant vaporizing it. That should basicly destroy it. Or Ryu teleports twice. Once out of the way infront of Lich King and another out of the way so the death coil kills Lich king....It is a a one hit kill right?

Ryu Uses Art of the Spirit CLone to make multiple copies himself so to either possibly throw off the death coil. Or have him send it after the wrong one.

Art of the Inazuma. Use its attack power to cancel it out.

Art of the Inferno uses it to cancel out.

Or uses it to have the elemental barrier to protect them and let the death coil smack into it canceling out.

And if you think that invincibility frame is gameplay only. Ryu can be attack while performing his other 2 Ninpo cancelling him out of it.

Also. Whats to say that Ryu wont just easily tear through Lich Kings mana sheild with shear force.

The Kietsu can probably due the same as it Harnessies the power of the countless souls it has consumed. So what you think the Keistu cant tear through the mana sheild and suck his soul?

Dark Dragon Blade...Ryu turns into the devil incarnate and the only thing that can basicly hurt him is god and the True Dragon Blade. So he is basicly invunverable to harm outside of those weapons. And would just tear lich King apart.

Everything here has been basicly proved within the Game's canon. So please explain to me how Lich King sooo easily trumps Ryu when i Basicly given you counters for everything that should and most likely would work with a high sucess rate

Seriously, use quotes so i can tell what i wrote and what you wrote -.-'

Only one hit kill on a living creature, on a dead one, aka Lich King, it heals them......

So much trouble for one of Lich Kings Basic spells....

Mana sheild is not penetrated so easily, you cannot enter the barrier until you have defeated the enemies will which it feeds of for it's defense, something Ryu won't be doing in his very short life span. The spell is not evil, the TDS has to get to him to be super duper effecitve to him, something Mana sheild prevents.

Lets take this up a notch then, yes?

He also has to power of then Shaman, Ner'zhul was the best Shaman of his time. Fire/Earth/Forst shock (take your pick) it hits the body, it doesn't have to hit, it just will. How can he stop those? Lightning spells are also a favourite among shamen. By the way, Shaman control the elements, so, forget any eletmental attacks or barriers, Lich King can neutralize them with his own power.

Warlock powers allow him huge dark energies, like Shadow bolt, and many other various Shadow spells. Along with the power to summon great demons from the nether. He can also causes the target pain, great pain, this is another spell that will hit reguardless

DeathKnight powers allow him to heal undead i.e himself, aswell as summon many undead allies to himself.

The mana Barrier uses the energy from someone who is negatively evil. So why wouldnt his TDS cut through something that is made from energy from a evil being. Completely downgrading the TDS abilities. And Ryu has accomplished such task as defeating multiple enemies while taking on enemies of higher level.

And since you stated that Death Coil only effects the living. Thats nullified seeing as Ryu is already dead and is just a spirit now basicly.so that even nullifies death coil on the same playing feilds.

Also. Whats to stop Ryu teleporting inside the mana sheild? Barrier stops thing from moving physicaly through it. Out of all media I have seen,video games,comics,manga, anime alike. i have never seen anytype of barrier stop someone from teleporting inside. So the barrier still proves useless via teleportationg or breaking through with the TDS

I can't really argue ryu can really do muchon elemental magic but he stills has other Ninpos that he has show and that seem to be effective that we dont really know much about. Hopefully to be revealed. But i can agree with you that Lich king does have ryu beat in the elemental department. but thats one area. But im just going to simply break it down like this

Speed
Ryu

Strength
Ryu

elemental control
Lich King

Magic
About even leaning more to Lich King

Combat Skills
Ryu

Now out of those 5 departments that i beleive contribute in a fight. ryu basicly trumps Lich King in 3 out 5 of those. Maybe 4.

With the Dark Dragon Blade. The only thing that can really hurt him is the True Dragon Blade. Because of PIS or thats just the way it is. DDB basicly trumps Lich King. But i dont like using it

But I still says Ryu beats Lich King either 3 or 4 out of 5 or 7/10.
Ryu has too much in his arsenal and is an expert is basicly all categories. If someone happens to outmatch him in one he has multiple other departments to take someone down. Which basicly is why Ryu should and will beat Lich King. But still in the elemental area. Is still kind of nonense saying he can manipulate other peoples Magic. So Lich king wouldnt really have much control over Ryu Ninpo rather elemental or not. i will go as far to say that he could control his own elemental abilities and other elements outside of another users control.

Ryu clearly is capable of killing pre-fusion.. Arthas isn't fast enough to fight a ninja if he has problems against Illidan in plain speed and strength..

However, when it comes to post-fusion, if we assume he is at his prime with post powers, then he is capable of too much to die by a plain sword and some ninpo.. He'll slow Ryu down drastically, while attacking from a distance.. Shortly after going into close combat with the horribly light, indestructable Frostmourne and with every single hit, reduce the life-energy of Ryu.. While at the same time attack with magical ((unavoidable)) spells..

8/10 Ryu Vs. Pre-Fusion

9/10 Pre-Fusion Vs. Ryu

well where shall we begin, i agree with Darth, the first one goes to Ryu, DK Arthas is a bit of a, well, he doesnt have that many advantages comparing to Ryu

but post fusion, its a joke of a fight in comparison, Ryu is an Ant to a lion

basically as the fight begins, using warlock magics Lich king could easily inflict Pain, Corruption, immolate. Set up a Earthern/lightning shield around himself, Demon armour magic or fel armour, even better imo. hell he may do all this while crushing Ryu's mind, the guy has the conciousness of one of the most intelligent magical beings in Warcraft ten thousand fold...Ryus mind would be broken and even weakened and bodyless in before fusion, the lich king mind controls hundreds of non-undead beings all around the continent of ice-crown, Ryu would get stamped out.

While crippled Ryu will be screaming in agony, his body rotting, the pain of the warlock curses ruining his skill and body in the process while Fusion walks up casually, Ryu tries to push the DDB up but Fusion blasts it aside with a lightning blast, picks Ryu up by the neck and laughs before making Ryu completly mad with his mind rotting.

Ryu gets tied in a straight jacket and sent to the loony bin

WTF is wrong with you?

Originally posted by Sol Valentine
WTF is wrong with you?

okay okay i confess i'm addicted to oxygen.....oh wait..you weren't talking to me ^^'

Originally posted by Sol Valentine
WTF is wrong with you?

馃槙 ....erm...whats wrong with you?