Originally posted by Endless Mike
Every time I've come into this thread lately there have been a dozen new pages - I can't keep up with this. Someone please summarize the current arguments, and if anyone responded to the last post I made with arguments, please tell me what page it was so I can respond.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Believe its still just combat_guru pulling more numbers and retarded claims out of his ass.
The thing is that Cell state he can destroy the Solar System with his Kamehamha, yet when it was bounced back it barely destroy any crust from the earth. As energy can not be trully destroyed.
well the same could be said for ell how do we know he used the solar system worth of ki in his blast
There's also the fact that if we allow hyperbole claims for DBZ, you would have to do the same for Superman's comics, and there are a lot - I remember one in particular that said something about Superman being essential to the existence of the multiverse and protected specially by the Presence (omnipotent) so that he can never truly die.
In fact Superman has several canon feats that are just completely ridiculous and I'm not using simply out of courtesy to your side - but if you want to play dirty, I can bring up the Dominus incident.
Originally posted by Endless Mikethere is no need to. I posted so many scans of superman superspeed, strenght, and travel speed. I posted Durability scans, and they just ignore it. They make false statement and when asked to post scans of any kind they jump to another flase statement. They cycles keeps going.
There's also the fact that if we allow hyperbole claims for DBZ, you would have to do the same for Superman's comics, and there are a lot - I remember one in particular that said something about Superman being essential to the existence of the multiverse and protected specially by the Presence (omnipotent) so that he can never truly die.In fact Superman has several canon feats that are just completely ridiculous and I'm not using simply out of courtesy to your side - but if you want to play dirty, I can bring up the Dominus incident.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
You said it, oh and we can't forget Carver9.
The thing is that Cell state he can destroy the Solar System with his Kamehamha, yet when it was bounced back it barely destroy any crust from the earth. As energy can not be trully destroyed.
the energy was being directed into the sky though not at the earth, the energy was fired into space where it dispersed
Originally posted by Endless Mike
There's also the fact that if we allow hyperbole claims for DBZ, you would have to do the same for Superman's comics, and there are a lot - I remember one in particular that said something about Superman being essential to the existence of the multiverse and protected specially by the Presence (omnipotent) so that he can never truly die.In fact Superman has several canon feats that are just completely ridiculous and I'm not using simply out of courtesy to your side - but if you want to play dirty, I can bring up the Dominus incident.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
the energy was being directed into the sky though not at the earth, the energy was fired into space where it dispersed
Um, no it wasn't. You must be thinking of a different instance.
Im just not positive that cells claim was a hyperbole, I mean everyone believed him
I don't recall anyone actually saying they believed him, he just said it and then they blasted each other. Just because no one called him on it and said he must be lying doesn't mean they believed him.
Not to mention that even if there was only a small possibility he was telling the truth it would be prudent to believe it anyway, since they had nothing to lose if he was lying but everything to lose if he wasn't.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Um, no it wasn't. You must be thinking of a different instance.I don't recall anyone actually saying they believed him, he just said it and then they blasted each other. Just because no one called him on it and said he must be lying doesn't mean they believed him.
Not to mention that even if there was only a small possibility he was telling the truth it would be prudent to believe it anyway, since they had nothing to lose if he was lying but everything to lose if he wasn't.
also what of the 2 instances I descibed before(gog's 12 red suns energy blast and sentry's 1 million exploding suns)
and you ignored what I asked about the anime
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678You realize if there was enough to wipe out the solar system then it would have atleas taken out a good chunk of the solar system with it?
the energy was being directed into the sky though not at the earth, the energy was fired into space where it dispersed
I'm not sure if people are aware of the scale but the beam would have had to have been much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much,much, much etc. bigger.
If we include everything that orbits the sun as part of the solar system then the solar system is 100,000 AU... That's 1.5 × 10^13 km or
150,000,000,000,000 kilometers.
Did the kamehame ha look like it was that much? Let alone enough for two (Gohan's as well)
Originally posted by Creshoskso what of the two scans I posted of gogs 12 sun blast?
You realize if there was enough to wipe out the solar system then it would have atleas taken out a good chunk of the solar system with it?I'm not sure if people are aware of the scale but the beam would have had to have been much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much,much, much etc. bigger.
If we include everything that orbits the sun as part of the solar system then the solar system is 100,000 AU... That's 1.5 × 10^13 km or
150,000,000,000,000 kilometers.Did the kamehame ha look like it was that much? Let alone enough for two (Gohan's as well)
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
also what of the 2 instances I descibed before(gog's 12 red suns energy blast and sentry's 1 million exploding suns)
I don't buy the Sentry claim (never did), and I'm unaware of the circumstances of the Gog incident (I didn't bring it up or debate it).
and you ignored what I asked about the anime
The movies are non - canon, as are the anime fillers (parts that weren't in the manga).