Who in Marvel can beat the Anti-Life Entity ?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Isn't the Omniverse infinitely Larger than The marvel multiverse that was?

Beyonder's Universe was everything that is outside the Prime Multiverse of today.

Basically the Current Omniverse minus a Multiverse.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The beyonders Reality was finite in that it was compared to water and all that. thus limiting his creation as such.

Finite?

Actually the Prime Multiverse alone was Infinite,

so how can Beyonder's Realm be finite,

when it is an Ocean in comparison with the Infinite Multiverse which was a drop of water?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl

And on Panel the LT was afraid of the beyonder. Really? LOL. He is omnicient is he not? He knows the beginning from the end right? And he has never been retconned. thus he was rightly secure in his position as second only to god. Since you know, he's never been retconned. According you. that is how I came up with this strat. And he could play the beyonder's game, since you know, he's like omnicient and all.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I'd say Beyonder's greatest feat was creating an Infinite Universe from scratch, (that All the Concepts too (including Death) from scratch)
An Infinite Universe Quintillions of times larger than all of Marvel at the time.

The analogy was,

the Marvel Universe (All of canon Marvel) = a drop of water:

the Beyond Realm (Beyonder's verse) = an Ocean:

Originally posted by Astner
I thought it was infinite, the drop of water was only mentioned in the begining of the series, when he create the battleworld.
When he create his universe, it was said that it was infinitely greater than the Marvel Multiverse, or rather "overlapping infinity"?

Beyond time, space, and the myriad dimensions lies another universe, to which our own is a droplet of water to the ocean.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Beyonder's Universe was everything that is outside the Prime Multiverse of today.

Basically the Current Omniverse minus a Multiverse.

When was MJJ introduced master???

Originally posted by Air Legend
This further proves you didn't read the Secret Wars. And for that Marvel was only a multiverse shit, I remember you saying not to long ago arguing that all of a company is equal to all of a company. If we go by your retarded logic, Marvel is greater than DC since DC doesn't have an omniverse, especially during the time DC was made to only one universe again.

You don't read well. I said according to DC"s logic. Your post fails on so many levels becuz you read only with a limited understanding and zero perception beyond your own severly handicapped intellect.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl

Doesn't matter if one was a CCU.

Doesn't invalidate the power of that Item or The power of the Other Items.

Actually it matters alot.

In Marvel One CCU could've performed that chessy feat.

Whil in this Cross-over garbage you're using,
a CCU needs 11 other uber items of power to perform it.

It once again shows how ridiculous DC/Marvel team ups are,
and how Continuity is disregarded and historically established facts are overlooked.

BTW,

according to that Cross-over stained with sewage nonsense,
Roma can ERASE DC,

so I guess you accept that since you're uing the Cross-over to debate.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It also doesn't matter that he seperated Two universes. That isn't the point. The point is the power that bound the universes together.

The power that bound Two universes together got owned by Flash & Hawkeye.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
and the fact that Krona could destroy universes with but a thought

I don't know about DC,

but Krona only destroyed ONE Alternate Reality from Marvel.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And on Panel the LT was afraid of the beyonder. Really? LOL.

What's so funny?

Yea really, It's an On Panel fact.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He is omnicient is he not? He knows the beginning from the end right? And he has never been retconned. thus he was rightly secure in his position as second only to god. Since you know, he's never been retconned. According you. that is how I came up with this strat. And he could play the beyonder's game, since you know, he's like omnicient and all.

Classic Beyonder >>> LT

Stated by On Panel characters

stated by On Panel Writers/narrators

stated by Official Marvel Bios

Classic Beyonder/MM were in a league of thier own,
anomalies of power beyond anything in Marvel.

This is why they were retconned/depowered.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually it matters alot.

In Marvel One CCU could've performed that chessy feat.

Whil in this Cross-over garbage you're using,
a CCU needs 11 other uber items of power to perform it.

It once again shows how ridiculous DC/Marvel team ups are,
and how Continuity is disregarded and historically established facts are overlooked.

BTW,

according to that Cross-over stained with sewage nonsense,
Roma can ERASE DC,

so I guess you accept that since you're uing the Cross-over to debate.

The power that bound Two universes together got owned by Flash & Hawkeye.

I don't know about DC,

but Krona only destroyed ONE Alternate Reality from Marvel.

What's so funny?

Yea really, It's an On Panel fact.

Classic Beyonder >>> LT

Stated by On Panel characters

stated by On Panel Writers/narrators

stated by Official Marvel Bios

Classic Beyonder/MM were in a league of thier own,
anomalies of power beyond anything in Marvel.

This is why they were retconned/depowered.

dear Master. LOL.

First of all. You are so limited. the feat isn't merging the universes. Try not to be so slow on the uptake. the items were needed to BIND Krona. Please learn to see beyond what you wish to see.

Also, Please show us where it says anywhere that Roma can erase the DCU. in your desperate and pathetic attempt to keep your hierachy going. You would try and use any failed attempt to get others to see your way. No where is roma mentioned as being able to erase a DCU.

And it matters not if Flash and hawkeye pwned the power. To which I don't remember that happening. But I seem to remember Hawkeye "killing" scarlet witch however so briefly. And here on our forum, that counts as a win.

Classic Beyonder was >>>>>the LT? You do have a situation then dont' you. Cuz the LT is surely more powerful now than he was isn't he? Now if you say he hasn't been retconned, then that means that he has always been 2nd only to God. You have a problem. Either way I win. The LT is superior to the Beyonder and the MM in either case. And I have difused your hierachy with one fell masterful stroke. check mate.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I'd say Beyonder's greatest feat was creating an Infinite Universe from scratch, (that All the Concepts too (including Death) from scratch)
An Infinite Universe Quintillions of times larger than all of Marvel at the time.

Concept thats according to you only exist as sentient beings in the marvel multiverse.

I've never seen any character create a Reality larger than all the rest of Marvel. [/B]

Perhaps not but it had been stated that thousands of years in the future Galactus would recreate the entire Omniverse (sort of) by realizing his energies thus birthing a new universe from which all could spawn.

And I mentioned most of his feats not all of them, like multiversal destroying battle Odin and Seth has accomplished that, so has Galactus and Mephisto, and Even hulk for crying out loud nothing big there IMO. Destroying a Galaxy well Odin's dark side has accomplished that feat, making a timeloop Galactus has done that to and so on.

Again Death and creating another multiverse is the only feats he can truly brag about IMO.

Originally posted by Astner
I thought it was infinite, the drop of water was only mentioned in the begining of the series, when he create the battleworld.
When he create his universe, it was said that it was infinitely greater than the Marvel Multiverse, or rather "overlapping infinity"?

Beyonder's Universe was Infinite.

The Ocean to a drop of water analogy is just to give us perspective.

Just imgine,

if an Infinite Multiverse is like a drop of water,

and a single Universe is like an Ocean in comparison with that Infinite Multiverse,

how much more Infinite can that single Universe be?

See?

Perspective. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
Classic Beyonder >>> LT

Stated by On Panel characters

stated by On Panel Writers/narrators

I would like to know then this has been stated Master if you don't mind.

Originally posted by Utrigita
I would like to know then this has been stated Master if you don't mind.

He's still upset over the conundrum i've placed him in. If he says that the LT isn't more powerful Now than before, than the Lt has NEVER been retconned and thus has ALWAYS been 2nd only to God. If he says the LT is more poweful now than before, then I still win. In either case, The LT would be superior to The Beyonder and MM pre and post retcon versions. No way for him to back out of it.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Beyonder's Universe was everything that is outside the Prime Multiverse of today.

Basically the Current Omniverse minus a Multiverse.

Lets keep it civil Nvr, I disagree with Master on this and always has probably one of the only incidents where we will never agree on anything (that and pre retcon Brothers), this kind of thread LT vs Beyonder has a tendence towards getting nasty and ugly which is why I tend to avoid them.

So a civil maner a couple of Post and we all drop the subject and moves on els we can just begin a little copy and past from the numorous threads that has been about this subject.

Mr Master, so the dropplet compared to the ocean was a metaphor, because we can't comperhend the concept of infinity, and by defenition not comperhend levels of it?

Originally posted by Utrigita
Lets keep it civil Nvr, I disagree with Master on this and always has probably one of the only incidents where we will never agree on anything (that and pre retcon Brothers), this kind of thread LT vs Beyonder has a tendence towards getting nasty and ugly which is why I tend to avoid them.

So a civil maner a couple of Post and we all drop the subject and moves on els we can just begin a little copy and past from the numorous threads that has been about this subject.

It's civil. He's been checkmated. He can't wiggle out of the corner that he's backed himself into. he's argued me down for years about this and I've finally figured out a way that he can't argue out of. I've won. The LT is superior to both versions of both MM and beyonder. No matter how you look at it. Thus the characters only defining limits of thier powers are what they have done on panel. which isn't all that impressive when you take away thier supposed superiority over CURRENT LT. Which is what he wants all of the idiot fanboys to believe.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
dear Master. LOL.

First of all. You are so limited.

So you're starting with the insults while I'm trying to debate?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
the feat isn't merging the universes. Try not to be so slow on the uptake.

I'll try harder.

Thanx for insult #2

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
the items were needed to BIND Krona.

Please learn to see beyond what you wish to see.

"what I wish to see?"

Hmm, so now you're changing the scenario,

because a few posts ago you stated something different.

Like this ... I'm only seeing what you posted Nvr:

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl

the Spectre in JLA avengers was able to seperate realities merged by 12 uber items.

He certainly is on par with the LT.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Also, Please show us where it says anywhere that Roma can erase the DCU.

In the very beginning of the series,

the Writers place the MArvel Universe and the DC Universe within the SAME Space,
separate by a vibrational frequency.

This means both companied share the same Omniverse.

This means Roma can erase DC,
since Roma can erase ANY Reality in the Omniverse.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
in your desperate and pathetic attempt to keep your hierachy going.

You would try and use any failed attempt to get others to see your way.

My "deperate & pathetic attempts"

Thanx again Nvr for insult #3

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No where is roma mentioned as being able to erase a DCU.

Indirectly it is.

According that Cross-over, Marvel & DC share the same Space.

Roma can erase any space within the Omniverse.

So Roma can erase DC.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And it matters not if Flash and hawkeye pwned the power.
To which I don't remember that happening.

Why would you know? 😏

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
But I seem to remember Hawkeye "killing" scarlet witch however so briefly.

To no affect, in an instant Wanda came back and warped his simple existence.

Krona got owned and never came back.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And here on our forum, that counts as a win.

Yea, if a thread starter puts all the same circumstances that were taking place
at that moment of Hawkeye's surprise attack.

Or were you under the impression
that Hawkeye attacked an aware Wanda and did any kind of damage? ❌

When Wanda was aware, (Forum Rules)
Hawkeye became another toy in her Omniverse.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Classic Beyonder was >>>>>the LT? You do have a situation then dont' you. Cuz the LT is surely more powerful now than he was isn't he? Now if you say he hasn't been retconned, then that means that he has always been 2nd only to God. You have a problem. Either way I win. The LT is superior to the Beyonder and the MM in either case.

Classic Beyonder and/or MM >>> LT

according to Marvel On Panel character statements

according to Marvel On Panel Writers/narrators' statements

according to MArvel Official bios

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And I have difused your hierachy with one fell masterful stroke. check mate.

😆

Okay Nvr you run the show.

Back on topic well the pre retcon Brothers most certainly can kick the Anti Life Entity's butt.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl It's civil. He's been checkmated.

We don't need anyone who writes a 12 page long essay based on spite and hate, which is basicly an extension of "You're stupid and I don't like you"

If you have problem understanding ask for an explanation, if you can't accept the explanation and have no idea of how to explain yourself simply ignore it and leave.

Originally posted by Mr Master
In the very beginning of the series,

the Writers place the MArvel Universe and the DC Universe within the SAME Space,
separate by a vibrational frequency.

This means both companied share the same Omniverse.

This means Roma can erase DC,
since Roma can erase ANY Reality in the Omniverse.

Indirectly it is.

According that Cross-over, Marvel & DC share the same Space.

Roma can erase any space within the Omniverse.

So Roma can erase DC.

Is it me ore have you just agreed to Marvel being just a Megaverse???