Originally posted by Astner
But what is this based on?
That the Living Tribunal the last ten years have showed greater activity?When it hasn't been confirmed, or even mentioned (in any of the handbooks and alike) that he have gotten more powerful.
Or we can simply say he was never retconned as you have just said. Thus he was always 2nd only to god. In either case, he is more powerful than classic beyonder and classic molecule man. since neither actually pwned him. We know for sure the Heart is more powerful than the LT. And it has LESS feats than the beyonder. Why? It's on panel pwning the Lt.
Originally posted by Air Legend
He shouldn't be allowed to post. He only backed out of the Battlezone match because he knew he'd lose. He's just like phenomenol and in someways worse.
NO. I backed out of the match becuz I've gotten into it with some of the judges. And I also was starting a new job and I just moved. Just got the net on. And I think you are an idiot.
Originally posted by Astner
But Beyonder never was second to anyone, hence the defenition of supreme.
But what Feat does the beyonder have that puts him above the LT besides the LT shaking? And The beyonder wasn't supreme. He didn't create the marvel multiverse that has Expanded into the marvel omniverse. He has nothing of that kind of power. Only TOAA wields that power.
Classic Beyonder and Classic MM are greater than the current LT (who has never been retconned). TOAA shouldn't even be brought up in the first place seeing how the concept didn't exist back then but if you want to use TOAA in the discussion then there are simple explanations. LT never lost his position as second only to TOAA because Classic Beyonder and MM were retconned, so it's like it never happened to begin with. However, when a thread stipulates that it is Classic Beyonder and Molecule Man, we go by their "CLASSIC" powers. And if you like swallowing nvr's dumbass logic (teh LT is greater cuz IT's second!!!!) then Classic Beyonder and Classic MM are agents of TOAA like Scathan and therefore are undefeatable.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
But what Feat does the beyonder have that puts him above the LT besides the LT shaking? And The beyonder wasn't supreme. He didn't create the marvel multiverse that has Expanded into the marvel omniverse. He has nothing of that kind of power. Only TOAA wields that power.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO. I backed out of the match becuz I've gotten into it with some of the judges. And I also was starting a new job and I just moved. Just got the net on. And I think you are an idiot.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You are losing your touch.
What does this have to do with anything in this deabte?
You psych yourself up like you have something
and posts these unearned self perpetrated pats on your back.
What is that?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Roma has power over the marvel Omniverse. Not the DC one. You can extrapolate what you wish, But The Lord of time shown in Wildcats/JLA created the True Omniverse. So then he can wipe away a marvel time line much easier than Roma. If you wish to use such ill fated logic.
Not my logic, the logic of the silly Cross-over you're using to deabte.
If you're gonna bring that cross-over in here,
then accept that Roma can erase DC.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Marvel bios and statements mean nothing when there are no panel feats to back up what you are spouting. you have no way to wiggle out of the place I have set you, so you fall back on on panel bio's and statements. LMAO. I've won. You just won't admit it.
dontgetit
Are you high? I'm actually serious.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
As for Krona, He was pwned being turned into a cosmic egg.Not Hawkeye or anyone else.
your post just screams desparation.
My post also screams with Proof:
Haweye and Flash OWN Krona:
(Something you always seem to lack) 🙂
Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually according to Marvel.And these Concepts belong to the Marvel Universe, not the Beyond Realm.
Remember the Beyond Realm was completely separated from the Marvel Universe.
In any case, it doesn't really matter,
just cause a Concept has sentience
doesn't make it anymore of a Concept
than theCconcept that is an unaware/unconscious Abstract idea.In the end the Concept of Death whether aware of it's conceptualization or not,
still causes "death" in said Concepts respective reality.
Okay
I've never read anywhere that Galactus will remake the Omniverse.But in any case,
Beyonder actually did create an Infinite Universe On Panel, big G hasn't.
Which is = to the Current Omniverse minus a Multiverse.[/B]
But we have something much better TOAA words for it
http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tlgs61fz5.jpg
Never happened.Odin & Seth send shockwaves through all "planes of reality"
Planes of Reality ... like when Korvac battled Starhawk
"we shall do battle on Every Plane of Existence"The Physical Plane:
The Astral Plane:
The Sub-Conscious Plane:
Here Korvac mentions ALL Three Planes
http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=odinsethuniverse8gm.jpg
regardens to Odins and Seths battle, I assume strangers word is good enough.
They never have anything Multiversal.[/B]
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=419848&pagenumber=3
the top scans please 🙂
Galactus has never threatened ALL of Marvel like Beyonder did with his Timeloop.[/B]
Can Galactus make a TimeLoop ✅ which is what I mentioned. 🙂
He had many more feats.But the creation of that Universe (Beyond Realm)
which was quintillions of time larger than the Infinite Prime Multiverse,is the ultimate feat, but with a feat like that, who needs more. [/B]
most feats that I have just proven most other beings can accomplishe just as well master.
Not a lot but if thats the only feat you are giving him then I would say that LT creating Two megaverses that in theory should house a infinite number of Multiverses is just as impressive 😬
Originally posted by Air Legend
Classic Beyonder and Classic MM are greater than the current LT (who has never been retconned). TOAA shouldn't even be brought up in the first place seeing how the concept didn't exist back then but if you want to use TOAA in the discussion then there are simple explanations. LT never lost his position as second only to TOAA because Classic Beyonder and MM were retconned, so it's like it never happened to begin with. However, when a thread stipulates that it is Classic Beyonder and Molecule Man, we go by their "CLASSIC" powers. And if you like swallowing nvr's dumbass logic (teh LT is greater cuz IT's second!!!!) then Classic Beyonder and Classic MM are agents of TOAA like Scathan and therefore are undefeatable.
This fails.
Originally posted by Mr Master
What does this have to do with anything in this deabte?You psych yourself up like you have something
and posts these unearned self perpetrated pats on your back.What is that?
Not my logic, the logic of the silly Cross-over you're using to deabte.
If you're gonna bring that cross-over in here,
then accept that Roma can erase DC.
dontgetit
Are you high? I'm actually serious.
My post also screams with Proof:
Haweye and Flash OWN Krona:
(Something you always seem to lack) 🙂
master. Flash nor Hawkeye even directly attack krona. Which is why i couldn't remember your failed attempt. You say they owned in hopes of belittling the character. Any idiot would fall for that. I knew I didn't remember them pwning shit. They attacked his power source. And yes i will pat myself on the back. Your noob followers won't. And my enemies, even knowing i'm correct wont. You've lost.
Originally posted by Air Legend
Ah forget it. I'm done debating against intransigence and absolute stupidity (something nvr epitomizes).
Hmm. you fail to realize you have far more detractors than I. You do nothing but regurgitate what master says. And you don't even do it nearly as well as he does. you aren't even worthy of a debate from me.