Who in Marvel can beat the Anti-Life Entity ?

Originally posted by Utrigita

But we have something much better TOAA words for it

http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tlgs61fz5.jpg

Yea, I was the one who showed you that scan.

And actually they're talking about a single Universe, not the Omniverse.

Originally posted by Utrigita
http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=odinsethuniverse8gm.jpg

regardens to Odins and Seths battle, I assume strangers word is good enough.

Yea, Dr Strange's words are enough,

he said ONLY Galaxies are threatened.

Again, nothing Multiversal.

Originally posted by Utrigita
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=419848&pagenumber=3

the top scans please

Which one?

Originally posted by Utrigita
Can Galactus make a TimeLoop which is what I mentioned.

Oh, I thought you said Galactus made a Timeloop
that even came close to being compared to the Timeloop Beyonder created.

Originally posted by Utrigita
most feats that I have just proven most other beings can accomplishe just as well master.

The simple ones? Sure.

But Beyonder has feats that have never been repeated in Marvel,
by anything less than Omniversaluber gods.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Not a lot but if thats the only feat you are giving him then I would say that LT creating Two megaverses that in theory should house a infinite number of Multiverses is just as impressive

Only LT didn't create them, he manipulated them.

And I sincerely doubt,
that Two Megaverses make up EVERYTHING Outside of the Prime Multiverse.

Which is what Beyonder did Create from scratch,
EVERYTHING Outside of the Prime Multiverse.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Yea, I was the one who showed you that scan.

And actually they're talking about a single Universe, not the Omniverse.

Yea, Dr Strange's words are enough,

he said ONLY Galaxies are threatened.

Again, nothing Multiversal.

Which one?

Oh, I thought you said Galactus made a Timeloop
that even came close to being compared to the Timeloop Beyonder created.

The simple ones? Sure.

But Beyonder has feats that have never been repeated in Marvel,
by anything less than Omniversaluber gods.

Only LT didn't create them, he manipulated them.

And I sincerely doubt,
that Two Megaverses make up EVERYTHING Outside of the Prime Multiverse.

Which is what Beyonder did Create from scratch,
EVERYTHING Outside of the Prime Multiverse.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Thus the LT would have to grow in power to match the growing marvel verse.

No proof of any kind in any Marvel issue of this.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Or we can simply say he was never retconned as you have just said. Thus he was always 2nd only to god. In either case, he is more powerful than classic beyonder and classic molecule man. since neither actually pwned him.

nuts4

Originally posted by Mr Master
No proof of any kind in any Marvel issue of this.

nuts4

"sigh's.

You tend to do that to anyone you can't soundly beat with certainty. I accept your surrender.

For the record, you are the one that said the prime marvel verse grew into the prime multiverse and then outward.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And just how big is this everything outside of the prime marvel multiverse?

Everything outside of the Prime Multiverse (houses 616)
is the Rest of the Omniverse.

The rest of the Omniverse = an unknown # of MegaverseS

Each Megaverse is a collection of MultiverseS (exactly how many is unknown)

Each Multiverse is Infinite.

Each Universe withIN each Multiverse is nigh-Infinite.
(because each Universe has a nigh-Infinite amount of connected Timelines)

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
HOw powerful does one have to be to be lord of nothing?

"nothing?"

There was only nothing there because Beyonder was the embodiment of eveything there.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Everything outside of the Prime Multiverse (houses 616)
is the Rest of the Omniverse.

The rest of the Omniverse = an unknown # of MegaverseS

Each Megaverse is a collection of MultiverseS (exactly how many is unknown)

Each Multiverse is Infinite.

Each Universe withIN each Multiverse is nigh-Infinite.
(because each Universe has a nigh-Infinite amount of connected Timelines)

"nothing?"

There was only nothing there because Beyonder was the embodiment of eveything there.

Ok so now answer this, The beyonder you say was everthing outside of the prime marvel multiverse. But isn't the omniverse everything outside now? And who sits atop of the current marvel omniverse? Let's do this in steps and see if we can reach an understanding.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Yea, I was the one who showed you that scan.

And actually they're talking about a single Universe, not the Omniverse.

But since the 616 reality is the foundation of the Omniverse then it would IMO be logical to assume that the rest of the Omniverse is already dead.

Yea, Dr Strange's words are enough,

he said ONLY Galaxies are threatened.

Again, nothing Multiversal.[/B]

read the statement before that too please:

I sense a great Upheavel that is tearing at the very fabric of the Multiverse

🙂

Which one?[/B]

this three:
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/4230/ssjd585gn.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3257/ssjd566zs.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/8522/ssjd573qq.jpg

I think it should be simple enough to see that the energy is going outside of Mephistos dimension and spreading into the remaining Multiverse.

Oh, I thought you said Galactus made a Timeloop
that even came close to being compared to the Timeloop Beyonder created.[/B]

Well he has made on, he did send Sphinx back in time to each time be beaten by Galactus and then sent back

The simple ones? Sure.

But Beyonder has feats that have never been repeated in Marvel,
by anything less than Omniversaluber gods.[/B]

Actually I have just showed you that nearly all of them have 😬

Only LT didn't create them, he manipulated them.

And I sincerely doubt,
that Two Megaverses make up EVERYTHING Outside of the Prime Multiverse.

Which is what Beyonder did Create from scratch,
EVERYTHING Outside of the Prime Multiverse. [/B]

You cannot say that Master because already in 1981 the Omniverse was mentioned for the first time so to say that Beyonder was everything outside would be wrong since the omniverse which you claim was beyonders already existed.

Actually the Bio clearly tells us that he help fashion the two entities into Megaverses I doesn't know how you read it but I read it as if he created those Megaverses. Also a scan of him having them created and then he just vaporized the Megaverses ore a illusion the way you look at it is individuel I guess.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You tend to do that to anyone you can't soundly beat with certainty.

Nah, I do that when intrasigence has peaked.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I accept your surrender.

😂

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
For the record, you are the one that said the prime marvel verse grew into the prime multiverse and then outward.

Right, and I have never changed my stance.

But I don't know when it is you'l understand,

Beyonder was Not part of that Marvel verse,
Beyonder was brought into Marvel as an anomaly,
something outside and disconnected from everything else Marvel.

Beyonder could've very well been as great or more than TOAA,
or he could've been TOAA' avatar,
or a Writer's interpretation of what "god" should be in comics.

Remember, it was NOT established BACK Then,
that TOAA existed or that TOAA/god drew comics/on panel events for their enjoyment.

This was certified MANY years after Classic Beyonder was Retconned.

Wasn't Beyonder supose to represent Jim Shooter, the back then editor in chief?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Nah, I do that when intrasigence has peaked.

😂

Right, and I have never changed my stance.

But I don't know when it is you'l understand,

Beyonder was Not part of that Marvel verse,
Beyonder was brought into Marvel as an anomaly,
something outside and disconnected from everything else Marvel.

Beyonder could've very well been as great or more than TOAA,
or he could've been TOAA' avatar,
or a Writer's interpretation of what "god" should be in comics.

Remember, it was NOT established BACK Then,
that TOAA existed or that TOAA/god drew comics/on panel events for their enjoyment.

This was certified MANY years after Classic Beyonder was Retconned.

Thus using current LT and Pre LT to gage his power is invalid. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Hmm. you fail to realize you have far more detractors than I.
You do nothing but regurgitate what master says. And you don't even do it nearly as well as he does. you aren't even worthy of a debate from me.

More lies I see.

And where the **** are you getting the idea that I want to debate with you for fun? I only want to do it to get you banned, which is the reason you backed out to beging with. Everyone, I repeat, EVERYONE knows you are a coward.

Originally posted by Astner
Wasn't Beyonder supose to represent Jim Shooter, the back then editor in chief?

Originally posted by Air Legend
More lies I see.

And where the **** are you getting the idea that I want to debate with you for fun? I only want to do it to get you banned, which is the reason you backed out to beging with. Everyone, I repeat, EVERYONE knows you are a coward.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'm sorry. I ****ing fail at life.

Originally posted by Utrigita
But since the 616 reality is the foundation of the Omniverse then it would IMO be logical to assume that the rest of the Omniverse is already dead.

Or he could just be the next Eternity, and become the next prime Multiverse.

Remember,
Eternity was the first Universe that expanded into what the Omniverse is today,
and yet Eternity only encompasses the Multiverse.

Of course we now know
that the Alien Entity was actually the being that spawned the Omniverse.

Originally posted by Utrigita
read the statement before that too please:

I sense a great Upheavel that is tearing at the very fabric of the Multiverse

And only Galaxies are threatened. 🙂

Originally posted by Utrigita
this three:
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/4230/ssjd585gn.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3257/ssjd566zs.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/8522/ssjd573qq.jpg

I think it should be simple enough to see that the energy is going outside of Mephistos dimension and spreading into the remaining Multiverse.

I see no indication of what you're saying Ut.

Mephisto's dimension is withIN a pocket Realm in 616.

That could easily be energy spewing into adjacent pocket realms,
or 616 itself.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Well he has made on, he did send Sphinx back in time to each time be beaten by Galactus and then sent back

Which did affect and/or couldn't affect All of MArvel like Beyonder's loop.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Actually I have just showed you that nearly all of them have

I don't think so.

Originally posted by Utrigita
You cannot say that Master because already in 1981 the Omniverse was mentioned for the first time so to say that Beyonder was everything outside would be wrong since the omniverse which you claim was beyonders already existed.

In Non-Canon UK titles.

These titles became Canon Years after Beyonder was retconned.

Omniverse became Official Marvel fact in 91'

Originally posted by Utrigita
Actually the Bio clearly tells us that he help fashion the two entities into Megaverses I doesn't know how you read it but I read it as if he created those Megaverses.

The Megaverses were created by the two Brothers in the LT's hand.

The LT fashioned/manipulated the embodiment of the Two Megaverses. (Bothers)

The Megaverses though, were created by the Brothers,
who were called "Architects"

"A Hand soon opening to allow TWO Brothers to assume Their pre-destined
Roles as Architects of New Realities"

Originally posted by Utrigita
Also a scan of him having them created and then he just vaporized the Megaverses ore a illusion the way you look at it is individuel I guess.

I don't think he vaporized them.

That was the Artists interpreting how superior and dominant the LT was to these Brothers.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Or he could just be the next Eternity, and become the next prime Multiverse.

Remember,
Eternity was the first Universe that expanded into what the Omniverse is today,
and yet Eternity only encompasses the Multiverse.

Of course we now know
that the Alien Entity was actually the being that spawned the Omniverse.

And yet we know that all the omniverse is created from 616 so actually if we follow that logic then Galactus would be capable of creating a omniverse not instantly but much like beyonder did with time.

And only Galaxies are threatened. 🙂[/B]

and yet ripping in the very fabric of the multiverse 🙂

I see no indication of what you're saying Ut.

Mephisto's dimension is withIN a pocket Realm in 616.

That could easily be energy spewing into adjacent pocket realms,
or 616 itself.[/B]

It differently came into the 616 but I think it would be quiet safe to assume that if Odin and Seth can have a battle of multiversal magnitude then IMO Galactus and Mephisto can to.

Which did affect and/or couldn't affect All of MArvel like Beyonder's loop.[/B]

No and I never said so did I???

I don't think so.[/B]

that you have a different opeinon about my scans is okay its just a friendly debate after all.

In Non-Canon UK titles.

These titles became Canon Years after Beyonder was retconned.

Omniverse became Official Marvel fact in 91'[/B]

So MJJ was non-canon until 1991, would you mind showing my where that is stated that those titles is Non-Canon.

The Megaverses were created by the two Brothers in the LT's hand.

The LT fashioned/manipulated the embodiment of the Two Megaverses. (Brothers)

The Megaverses though, were created by the Brothers,
who were called "Architects"

"A Hand soon opening to allow TWO Brothers to assume Their pre-destined
Roles as Architects of New Realities"[/B]

With of cause LT as the supreme supervisor 🙂 also the Handbook mentions that he helped them, so maybe they designed them but he created something for them to design

I don't think he vaporized them.

That was the Artists interpreting how superior and dominant the LT was to these Brothers. [/B]

I think that for a time the architechts was dismissed and along with them there work. It was also a show to just how powerful LT is to have him manipulate two Megaverses like they where clay in his hands.

Originally posted by Utrigita
And yet we know that all the omniverse is created from 616 so actually if we follow that logic then Galactus would be capable of creating a omniverse not instantly but much like beyonder did with time.

Well it never actually happened, so no, we don't know that Galactus can do that.

It was never illustrated on panel,
and it was never mentioned in a bio.

Beyonder's feat on the other hand did take place on panel,
and was certified in an official bio.

Originally posted by Utrigita
and yet ripping in the very fabric of the multiverse

Where only Galaxies were to be affected. 🙂

Originally posted by Utrigita
It differently came into the 616 but I think it would be quiet safe to assume that if Odin and Seth can have a battle of multiversal magnitude then IMO Galactus and Mephisto can to.

Odin & Seth have never had a battle of Multiversal magnitude.

Not a single Universe was affected/or threatened, let alone the Multiverse,

ONLY Galaxies!!!

Originally posted by Utrigita
that you have a different opeinon about my scans is okay its just a friendly debate after all.

I'm not stating opinions, I'm just pointing out the difference.

Originally posted by Utrigita
So MJJ was non-canon until 1991,
would you mind showing my where that is stated that those titles is Non-Canon.

You should know this, but I'll return with the info later, I'm about to log off.

Originally posted by Utrigita
With of cause LT as the supreme supervisor also the Handbook mentions that he helped them, so maybe they designed them but he created something for them to design

It only says, he helped Fashion the Brothers:

I agree, the LT held the embodiments of Two MegaverseS in one hand,
but the MegaverseS themselves, were created by the Brothers:

"the Living Tribunal also helped fashion the twin Entities the BROTHERS,
each of whom became the guardian of a different Megaverse"

Originally posted by Utrigita
I think that for a time the architechts was dismissed and along with them there work.

I'm not sure where you're getting this from.

Originally posted by Utrigita
It was also a show to just how powerful LT is to have him manipulate two Megaverses like they where clay in his hands.

I agree, the LT definitely manipulated them,
but their creation was a product of the Brothers.

Originally posted by Air Legend
You have finally realized how pitiful you are. Good for you.

air legend, consider yourself officially warned. there's no need for this kind of behaviour.

nvr, please simmer down a bit, or you'll end up in the same position...

Originally posted by pr1983
air legend, consider yourself officially warned. there's no need for this kind of behaviour.

nvr, please simmer down a bit, or you'll end up in the same position...

what comic are the "Infinites" form and are they the source of cosmic cubes or are the beyonders?