Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Judging from the other thread, aswell as your response here you're probably a troll.*click on Space M ummy's profile*
nope. I've been here for a very long time, and am most certainly not a troll. feel free to rummage through my profile all you like.
any of those characters are on the same level as the entity you posted.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
*Sees Space M ummy's replies in Mxy vs Celestials thread aswell as other threads*Yep, you're a troll.
Instead of throwing around accusations of "troll" why not mount an actual argument as to why the characters and entities I listed would not be sufficient?
Are you aware of what they are? Are you well versed in marvel at all?
And for all your cries of "troll" keep in mind I've been here for TWO YEARS longer than you without ever being banned.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Instead of throwing around accusations of "troll" why not mount an actual argument as to why the characters and entities I listed would not be sufficient?Are you aware of what they are? Are you well versed in marvel at all?
And for all your cries of "troll" keep in mind I've been here for TWO YEARS longer than you without ever being banned.
👆
Space M is no troll.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Instead of throwing around accusations of "troll" why not mount an actual argument as to why the characters and entities I listed would not be sufficient?Are you aware of what they are? Are you well versed in marvel at all?
And for all your cries of "troll" keep in mind I've been here for TWO YEARS longer than you without ever being banned.
Honestly, I've probably haven't been fair in this since I barely read a few of your replies.
This was just my first impression.
I retreat what I said.
As for the persons you enlisted, a few of them don't exist and you have no proof that any of the others can beat him really 😬
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
As for the persons you enlisted, a few of them don't exist and you have no proof that any of the others can beat him really
If Highfather, Post-Darkseid, Orion, Etrigen and Fate
can actually blast back and stand an attack (unharmed) from the ALE,
the cats mentioned (non-pre-retcon) have a more than good chance of winning.
And again,
BFR no more ALE.
Originally posted by Mr Master
If Highfather, Post-Darkseid, Orion, Etrigen and Fate
can actually blast back and stand an attack (unharmed) from the ALE,the cats mentioned (non-pre-retcon) have a more than good chance of winning.
And again,
BFR no more ALE.
Didn't you say that you're going to put me on ignore ?
And besides, I'm not going into a discussion with you anyway because it's just not worth my time.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Didn't you say that you're going to put me on ignore ?And besides, I'm not going into a discussion with you anyway because it's just not worth my time.
This is an open vs thread, anyone can post within them.
Now if you made a personal thread, like in the Comic Books menu,
I would ignore it totally out of respect, no matter what I really think of you.
So the bottom line is,
the ALE can't survive outside it's own Realm:
Originally posted by Mr Master
This is an open vs thread, anyone can post within them.Now if you made a personal thread, like in the Comic Books menu,
I would ignore it totally out of respect, no matter what I really think of you.
So the bottom line is,
the ALE can't survive outside it's own Realm:
Originally posted by Mr Master
This is an open vs thread, anyone can post within them.Now if you made a personal thread, like in the Comic Books menu,
I would ignore it totally out of respect, no matter what I really think of you.
So the bottom line is,
the ALE can't survive outside it's own Realm:
Okay so due to that scan, what you say is canon. In this case who in the universe would want to invade it's realm outside of Thanos Dr. Doom or Darkseid? Is there anyone in DC or Marvel that could take the ALE Entity on in it's own home dimension? Hyperbole would indicate that it's power there is limitless. I know that DC is not, and was not part of this thread, but I can't think of anyone with that kind of power outside omnipotent type beings.
Originally posted by Mr Master
This is an open vs thread, anyone can post within them.Now if you made a personal thread, like in the Comic Books menu,
I would ignore it totally out of respect, no matter what I really think of you.
So the bottom line is,
the ALE can't survive outside it's own Realm:
Who says that the oponnent would know that ?
Who says that the oponnent would be able to BFR the Anti-Life Entity ?
Anyway
For the sake of the discussion, let's say that this takes place on a ground where both the Anti-Life Entity and his oponennt's power works normally, with the Anti-Life Entity surviving.
I'm more interested who is more powerfull than it.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Who says that the oponnent would know that ?Who says that the oponnent would be able to BFR the Anti-Life Entity ?
Anyway
For the sake of the discussion, let's say that this takes place on a ground where both the Anti-Life Entity and his oponennt's power works normally, with the Anti-Life Entity surviving.
I'm more interested who is more [b]powerfull
than it. [/B]
We know that the ALE would die if it's separated from its dimension.
So everyone that can trick it out of it or destroy the dimension can kill it.
It seems however like you think that the ALE has power that could stop beings from busting its dimension.
Care to post scans of these so called 'feats'?
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Honestly, I've probably haven't been fair in this since I barely read a few of your replies.This was just my first impression.
I retreat what I said.
As for the persons you enlisted, a few of them don't exist and you have no proof that any of the others can beat him really 😬
Ok, apology accepted. I'll let it go.
here's why I think these characters have a shot:
Galactus + Nullifier= The nullifier is quite possibly the strongest weapon that currently exists in marvel. it's part of galactus, that's why he's listed with it. It's power DOES vary with the intelligence/willpower of the user, but I think Galactus is powerful enough to make full use of it.
The nullifier has been shown on panel to be able to eliminate and then reconstruct the entire marvel multiverse instantaneously, and simultaneously. This isn't just one universe, it's potentially tens of thousands if not more. Universes full of abstract and "omnipotent" beings. It can destroy entire timelines, ensuring events never occur in the first place. It's even destroyed the very concept of death entirely during Earth X/Universe X. If it's capable of destruction on a multiversal scale (with apparently nothing in the marvel multiverse capable of defending against it) I'd give it good odds of being able to eliminate the ALE as well.
Anyone with the infinity gauntlet.
The infinity gauntlet still "technically" exists- the tribunal just has a decree in place that the gems won't work together at the moment. But anyway, the full power of the gauntlet renders the user completely omnipotent and omnicient. Total and infinite control of power, the mind, the soul, space, and time. The effectiveness of it depends on the user, but with someone well versed like Thanos, Adam warlock, or the magus- it too is capable of creation and destruction on a multiversal scale. It blew away all of the top tier abstracts (death, order, chaos, eternity, infinity, galactus etc) like they were nothing in Warlock #1. Only the tribunal has shown to have power exceeding it. And even THEN, Warlock #1 states that a conflict between the two would be a fight that would lay waste to the multiverse in the process. I would give the Gauntlet with a competent user also good odds over the ALE.
Anyone with a substantial amount of cosmic containment units.
see the previous entry- the cosmic cubes are ALSO instruments and conduits of power on a universal scale. The only difference here is that the units are semi-sentient and there are things they will not do- such as effect souls. While one cube is below the IG in power, the cubes can apparently be linked- The magus managed to link five of them into a configuration that Thanos claimed was "VERY close" to the power of the full infinity gauntlet. (and he would know, of course.)
The Goddess (a female version of the magus, more or less) managed to arrange a configuration of THIRTY cubes into a configuration that would have eliminated "all evil" from existence entirely. Essentially, she would have become the supreme being of the marvel universe if her plan had come to fruition. The cubes with a competent user are ALSO on the level of the ALE.
616 Jaspers.
This one is a bit tougher. 616 jaspers is an omnipotent and unkillable reality warper who is apparently undefeatable while there is still reality to manipulate. Per Merlin, had he not been stopped via a plot device, there would have been no force in the omniverse capable of stopping him. he too would have become the mad god of the marvel universe.
From ALL of marvel?
Pre Retcon beyonder. I realize pre retcon beyonder has been edited from official continuity, that's why I separated him out into another category. retcons can also always be reversed, so you never know if he'll make an appearance again.
PRB was a sentient universe, the size of which was so massive that the marvel omniverse was "as a drop of water in the ocean" to it. He was ALSO unstoppable- he defeated every abstract that existed at that time with but a wave of his hand- celestials were throwing entire planets at him and it was nothing to him. He was only defeated by voluntarily turning himself mortal. The beyonder was also ominpotent and unkillable, with no peer except-
OR
Pre Retcon molecule man was sharing the beyonder's power through a plot device that escapes me at the moment. The two were apparently equal in power- he's been shown on panel willing stars and galaxies into existence, and firing off blasts that would destroy "a million universes." the guy was a beast. he's essentially the same as the entry above.
OR
Doom with power stealing equipment circa secret wars.
This one's a bit silly, but I like to bring it up since it amuses me. During secret wars, Doom apparently was running around with equipment that allowed him to absorb the power of Galactus AND his solar system sized worldship, and very nearly the entire power of the pre-retcon beyonder. It's POSSIBLE that this version of doom would be able to absorb a good deal of the power of the ALE as well (think again how much power Pre-retcon beyonder had at that point) but it's probably not worth debating excessively.
whew, that was longer than I thought.
We know that the ALE would die if it's separated from its dimension.
So everyone that can trick it out of it or destroy the dimension can kill it.It seems however like you think that the ALE has power that could stop beings from busting its dimension.
Care to post scans of these so called 'feats'?
I don't reply to those who are on ignore. You are on ignore.
What does that tell you ?
You're actually lucky I spared some time and read your message despite being on ignore, and this is just an exception because I made the thread.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
I don't reply to those who are on ignore. You are on ignore.What does that tell you ?
You're actually lucky I spared some time and read your message despite being on ignore, and this is just an exception because I made the thread.
Read the rules.
If you have me on ignore and don't want to reply, then don't.
There is no point in replying just for the sake of flaming someone.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Who says that the oponnent would know that ?
I'm just stating it's weakness.
The opponent can mistakingly drive it out of its Realm, (which = a win)
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Who says that the oponnent would be able to BFR the Anti-Life Entity ?
Now there's a debate.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
AnywayFor the sake of the discussion, let's say that this takes place on a ground where both the Anti-Life Entity and his oponennt's power works normally, with the Anti-Life Entity surviving.
I'm more interested who is more [b]powerfull
than it. [/B]
Cool, I can respect that.
Well we know it has to be at least greater than Universal,
since the "Cinque of Power" were able to erase a Universe,
and they were beneath the ALE.
They did manage to withstand a massive blow from the ALE unharmed.
So it's not like they were insects to the ALE.
Imo, based on that arc, great arc by the way,
I'd say nothing short of a Multiversal power would be able to = it or win.
Imo, an Omniversal power, would definitely win.
