Originally posted by Air LegendThere comes a time when I just get tired of you and your BS marvel rules all marvelboyism. You haven't calmed down a bit. There isn't a bit of centrality in you yet. Damn. Please lighten up. And yes I reported you. I was addressing someone else and you felt the need to step in and decide that I was a person of limited mental means who was engaging in sexual relations.
Whatever happened to I don't report people?
Hypocrite
Originally posted by Galan007
And the ALE was?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlALE was Universal at best -- There are no feats to suggest otherwise.
If nothing but an aspect could give DS the ability to control all of DC what do you think? The Cinque of power collapsed a reality and was no match for the ALE. So exactly what was it? universal? We already know they wielded that much power and then some, and couldn't beat it.
Originally posted by Galan007
ALE was Universal at best -- There are no feats to suggest otherwise.
Actually, the fact that it was laughing off the blast of the cinque say other wise. They Destroyed a reality. Which is at least a Universe. So It was beyond universal, by a far margin. If it was only " universal" the cinque would have owned it like they did said reality.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl*sighs*
Actually, the fact that it was laughing off the blast of the cinque say other wise. They Destroyed a reality. Which is at least a Universe. So It was beyond universal, by a far margin. If it was only " universal" the cinque would have owned it like they did said reality.
Teh 'Multiversal' thingy couldn't break out of one dimension, under it's own power? Odd. umm
Originally posted by Galan007
Exactly what it was. 👆
My point. A Lion will rip a human to shreds. But a skilled human with a sword or gun will lay waste to the LION. Dr. Fate was a skilled Human against a big dumb animal. Dimension collapse was the Sword. even then, this animal couldn't be killed, even with universal destroying power. It had to be BFR'd. With out BFR, I fail to see any indication one can simply over power the ALE.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlIf something can be sealed in one dimension, rendering it unable to escape -- I fail to see how said being, is Multiversal?
My point. A Lion will rip a human to shreds. But a skilled human with a sword or gun will lay waste to the LION. Dr. Fate was a skilled Human against a big dumb animal. Dimension collapse was the Sword. even then, this animal couldn't be killed, even with universal destroying power. It had to be BFR'd. With out BFR, I fail to see any indication one can simply over power the ALE.
Originally posted by Galan007
If something can be sealed in one dimension, rendering it unable to escape -- I fail to see how said being, is Multiversal?
Which doesn't quite compute. All they did was collapse the Adjoining reality from his to thiers. Leaving entropy or a void. How many beings in DC can cross and or survive entropY?
Originally posted by Horrificus
Because he was not "Multiversal".
Abraxas killing Reed, and every other Reed in the Multi-verse with a gesture:
Abraxas' was definitely Multiversal.
(in the sense that he could affect beings withIN every Reality simultaneously)
Now when it came to destroying Universes, he was not Multiversal.
But Abraxas can collapse every Universe in the Multiverse one by one, by just approaching them.
(he doesn't even need to attack said Universe, or even enter said Universe)
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Classic Beyonder's powers were all a dream.
❌
Classic Beyonder got depowered, but many of his feats stand as Canon to this day.
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 Mistress Death - Bio)
Beyonder erased the Concept of Death from the 616 Universe.
And like Now, even Then,
Death was essentially erased from the Multiverse because of this:
"The absence of Death ripples through the Ether like a shockwave,
soon the Full Effect will reach ALL life in the Multiverse"
Originally posted by Mr Master
Abraxas killing Reed, and every other Reed in the Multi-verse with a gesture:Abraxas' was definitely Multiversal.
(in the sense that he could affect beings withIN every Reality simultaneously)Now when it came to destroying Universes, he was not Multiversal.
But Abraxas can collapse every Universe in the Multiverse one by one, by just approaching them.
(he doesn't even need to attack said Universe, or even enter said Universe)❌
Classic Beyonder got depowered, but many of his feats stand as Canon to this day.
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 Mistress Death - Bio)
Beyonder erased the Concept of Death from the 616 Universe.
And like Now, even Then,
Death was essentially erased from the Multiverse because of this:
"The absence of Death ripples through the Ether like a shockwave,
soon the Full Effect will reach ALL life in the Multiverse"
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
If nothing but an aspect could give DS the ability to control all of DC what do you think?
Never in that arc is an Aspect of the ALE able to give Darkseid control of all DC.
Heck, not even of one Universe, or one even Galaxy.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually, the fact that it was laughing off the blast of the cinque say other wise.
Actually the ALE battered the Cinque with a double fisted pummel,
and the Cinque was unharmed, the Cinque then boom bashed the ALE back with a blast.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Yeah. Seems like a big dumb animal.
Not true.
The ALE was in fact, highly intelligent and extremely clever.
Read the Arc dogs cause you're just throwing unsupported opinions around.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Dr. Fate was a skilled Human against a big dumb animal.
doh
Read please.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Let's make something clear, I can throw a rock in a pond, and the ripples will travel and effect alot of the water. Doesn't mean I personally effected the water at the same time. Just that physics says that the water must be affected becuz of the action of the pebble being thrown. Death is a big Pebble.
Actually this analogy has nothing to do with what I posted.
616 Death possesses the power of the Totality of Death.
The 616 Abstracts represent the Totality of their respective Concepts.
Soooo, Beyonder erased Death from the Multiverse,
because he had power over the Multiversal Concept of Death. ✅
In Collapsing Universes, your analogy applies.
But defeating a 616 Concept,
means you have power over said Concept's Totality (or "Multi-Concept" if you will)
Originally posted by Mr Master
Never in that arc is an Aspect of the ALE able to give Darkseid control of all DC.Heck, not even of one Universe, or one even Galaxy.
Actually the ALE battered the Cinque with a double fisted pummel,
and the Cinque was unharmed, the Cinque then boom bashed the ALE back with a blast.Not true.
The ALE was in fact, highly intelligent and extremely clever.
Read the Arc dogs cause you're just throwing unsupported opinions around.
doh
Read please.
You only argue that the ale was intelligent in order to further your claim that it wasn't that powerful. IN actuality, the cinque was powerful enough to destroy a reality. ANd yet they were unable to harm the ALe in the least. It is beyond Universal as demonstrated by it's ability to make the cinque run for thier lives and in a desperate attempt, destroy a reality's worth of souls.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Soooo, Beyonder erased Death from the Multiverse,
because he had power over the Multiversal Concept of Death. ✅
True. In a way. Whatever he did, he did to ALL the Death Abstracts of the Multiverse.
but
616 Death possesses the power of the Totality of Death.
The 616 Abstracts represent the Totality of their respective Concepts.
But defeating a 616 Concept,
means you have power over said Concept's Totality (or "Multi-Concept" if you will) [/B]
This has never been stated in a comic.
As usual, you are taking the contents of a story, and manipulating statements to support your OPINIONS.
The events and statements that you have used to come to this conclusion, can be explained in many other ways.
And, in the event that you chose to respond to my post, I will only give 1 warning.
Do not proceed to insult me and berate me, as you are known to do.
If you are unable to remain civil, just ignore my post.
Otherwise, feel free to support your views.
