Originally posted by Laminator_X
It's neither bad writing nor a retcon. Chronos tried plan A with old-school Drax. Plan B with Big Dumb Drax, and Plan C with Current Drax. The Drax miniseries made a big point about the fact that he had changed.WRT getting stabbed by Wolvie, it's one thing to poke a hole in an Eternal, quite another to kill one. Note Gaiman's recent Eternals mini where they only way they managed to do lasting harm to Icarus was by strapping him to a cyclotron and ripping him apart atom by atom, and even that was after days of wearing him down.
Originally posted by Laminator_X
It's neither bad writing nor a retcon. Chronos tried plan A with old-school Drax. Plan B with Big Dumb Drax, and Plan C with Current Drax. The Drax miniseries made a big point about the fact that he had changed.WRT getting stabbed by Wolvie, it's one thing to poke a hole in an Eternal, quite another to kill one. Note Gaiman's recent Eternals mini where they only way they managed to do lasting harm to Icarus was by strapping him to a cyclotron and ripping him apart atom by atom, and even that was after days of wearing him down.
It's still dumb writing. there are many beings superior to Chronos. If it was that easy to just make a silver Bullet for thanos, then why hasn't someone else came up with the idea? Like the IB? IB>>>>Cronos.
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Also, Drax had never glowed green in his career like he did in Annihilation, nor has he ever been so driven to kill Thanos before.Oh well, I guess this isn't directed at the two most "coherent" people either... so, I'm just going to laugh at the response(s).
😕 maybe you should wait before you post. And see what others have to say. I have already explained my reasoning after this pathetic attempt at insulting.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlBecause thanos being killed in Annihilation was for effect. I imagine there wasn't a large list of ways to accomplish this without being Pis induced on the writers behalf. Not the best retcon in history but far from the worst, Jason Todd anybody.
It's still dumb writing. there are many beings superior to Chronos. If it was that easy to just make a silver Bullet for thanos, then why hasn't someone else came up with the idea? Like the IB? IB>>>>Cronos.
Originally posted by HueyFreeman
Because thanos being killed in Annihilation was for effect. I imagine there wasn't a large list of ways to accomplish this without being Pis induced on the writers behalf. Not the best retcon in history but far from the worst, Jason Todd anybody.
Jason Todd was a fool, and so is this "retcon". The IB has the answer to everything, and yet he couldn't think of a silver bullet to kill thanos. Dumb Writing. Galactus couldn't think of a silver bullet to kill thanos? The gamesmaster? The HE. OMG. Rediculousness personified.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlIt's not an attempt to insult you, it's true.
😕 maybe you should wait before you post. And see what others have to say. I have already explained my reasoning after this pathetic attempt at insulting.
Eg:
Originally posted by Laminator_X
It's neither bad writing nor a retcon. Chronos tried plan A with old-school Drax. Plan B with Big Dumb Drax, and Plan C with Current Drax. The Drax miniseries made a big point about the fact that he had changed.WRT getting stabbed by Wolvie, it's one thing to poke a hole in an Eternal, quite another to kill one. Note Gaiman's recent Eternals mini where they only way they managed to do lasting harm to Icarus was by strapping him to a cyclotron and ripping him apart atom by atom, and even that was after days of wearing him down.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It's still dumb writing. there are many beings superior to Chronos. If it was that easy to just make a silver Bullet for thanos, then why hasn't someone else came up with the idea? Like the IB? IB>>>>Cronos.
And then a post or so later, you don't even listen...
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Jason Todd was a fool, and so is this "retcon".
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
It's not an attempt to insult you, it's true.Eg:
And then a post or so later, you don't even listen...
I listened. I think you are less than you xmeat. Take that how you will. Now that is an insult. Since you like to try and fail so much to do it. As for me not listening, I did listen. And I said the 'retcon" was a FOOl. just like the jason todd thing. The IB didn't have the answer that A time god did? WTF. I do not buy it. Silly writing.
Originally posted by Kurash
uhh kronos is one of the first eternals and is basically responsible for all their power. And hes technically Thanos' grandfather, so if you think about it, it makes a lot of sense that he could create a silver bullet being for thanos
And yet the IB is still superior. And has an answer to everything does he not? And what in the devil is kronos doing failing so many times, when he knows about all of them? You think galactus would have a hard time creating something to kill Surfer or Morg?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlComing from you, that means... nothing. 😐
I listened. I think you are less than you xmeat. Take that how you will. Now that is an insult. Since you like to try and fail so much to do it. As for me not listening, I did listen. And I said the 'retcon" was a FOOl. just like the jason todd thing. The IB didn't have the answer that A time god did? WTF. I do not buy it. Silly writing.
It wasn't a retcon though, and LX explained that. Drax, from Thanos's very first appearance stated he was created to destroy him.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IronManv1055-04.jpg
Also, are you talking about the IB, as in the Infinity Being? Or God?
Because, God didn't want to kill Thanos... only manipulate him.
Or, In-Betweener?
Because, Thanos only met I-B on a grounds where I-B didn't have powers.
Also, Kronos overrode Death as well by creating Drax, since Drax is always revived.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And yet the IB is still superior. And has an answer to everything does he not? And what in the devil is kronos doing failing so many times, when he knows about all of them? You think galactus would have a hard time creating something to kill Surfer or Morg?
Well, Kronos did accidentally destroy his physical body with an experiment so maybe hes not the sharpest tool in the shed
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Coming from you, that means... nothing. 😐It wasn't a retcon though, and LX explained that. Drax, from Thanos's very first appearance stated he was created to destroy him.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IronManv1055-04.jpgAlso, are you talking about the IB, as in the Infinity Being? Or God?
Because, God didn't want to kill Thanos... only manipulate him.Or, In-Betweener?
Because, Thanos only met I-B on a grounds where I-B didn't have powers.
So what makes you think that your insults actually mean anything? Elitist. As if coming from someone who doesn't value any opinion outside of his own lil comics filled world would actually do anything to me. There are many a cosmic being who would kill thanos at a chance. None of them could make a silver bullet for him? As I said, Dumb retcon. Especially since Thanos got so many upgrades, that basically would surpass Kronos own power. kronos>>death? Kronos>>the Amp from the HOTU?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So what makes you think that your insults actually mean anything? Elitist. As if coming from someone who doesn't value any opinion outside of his own lil comics filled world would actually do anything to me. There are many a cosmic being who would kill thanos at a chance. None of them could make a silver bullet for him? As I said, Dumb retcon. Especially since Thanos got so many upgrades, that basically would surpass Kronos own power. kronos>>death? Kronos>>the Amp from the HOTU?
well he is directly related to thanos and responsible for the eternals power, so maybe he knows secrets that others do not. The plan was also orchestrated by Thanos' father. It just makes sense with all these family ties that they would know a way to kill Thanos. If Kronos gave power, hes gotta know a way around it
And maybe writers are just trying to keep it interesting, think about, lets say hypothetically that any cosmic being out there could create a silver bullet for thanos, well . . . he wouldnt be around to long
And drax's storyline ties in with Thanos as well, its not like its all random
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And yet the IB is still superior. And has an answer to everything does he not?
What's his beef with Thanos again? None. If you're gonna whine like that, then Eternity would be all over Dormammu.
And what in the devil is kronos doing failing so many times, when he knows about all of them?
His first creations failed 'kay? What's your problem? If it's really that serious, he'd show up himself and kill Thanos, but it's not.
You think galactus would have a hard time creating something to kill Surfer or Morg?
Nope. But if his creations failed the first time, then the second, and he still doesn't show to himself handle it on his own (yet makes a third three version) does convey that it isn't that of a serious concern. When Thanos had the IG, making a major threat, Kronos showed his punk self to stop Thanos. By your logic, why not ask why abstracts, who've been around since time began, are outsmarted by villains and heroes like Warlock, the Magus, Thanos, Doom, Reed, etc.
It might not be what you would've done, but then again every major villain threat that pisses off an abstract would be dead, except those cosmic villain rivaling abstracts themselves.
😛
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlWell, the fact that you supposedly hate me. I piss you off, etc.
So what makes you think that your insults actually mean anything? Elitist. As if coming from someone who doesn't value any opinion outside of his own lil comics filled world would actually do anything to me. There are many a cosmic being who would kill thanos at a chance. None of them could make a silver bullet for him? As I said, Dumb retcon. Especially since Thanos got so many upgrades, that basically would surpass Kronos own power. kronos>>death? Kronos>>the Amp from the HOTU?
I value lots of opinions. I value yours sometimes as well... when you're actually reading what the other person has to say...
I see you missed my edit, oh well.
Kronos actually did surpass Death's power. Since, he created Drax, and Drax can't die permanently. Also, his power supposedly has Drax being able to surpass Death's power as well, since Thanos was immortal ever since he came back from the grave.
I'm not saying he's more powerful than Death, but, he made someone basically immortal, and he made that same being able to kill an immortal being.
Of course, it's up for debate whether or not Thanos was immortal, since Death started to love him again prior to the incident. But still, he was the only one capable of killing Thanos since Warlock back before his upgrade (and immortality), so why people speculate, is beyond me.
Plus, only Drax and Warlock have ever delievered enough damage that could actually kill him. Others have only scratched him, cut him.
He doesn't even really need immortaility.
He was created to kill him since day one, and no one else was.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The IB didn't have the answer that A time god did? WTF. I do not buy it. Silly writing.
I suppose that all "cosmic" comic stories suffer from some degree of silliness by their overly-dramatic nature.
However, Chronos became one with the power that gives the Eternals their durability when he discorporated. I conjectured (and this is conjecture, mind you) that this gave him an advantageous insight where his grandson's invulnerability is concerned, one that he used when reformulating the new Destroyer 3.0 "Finesse Edition."
WRT the In-Betweener specifically, Thanos beat him in a zone without dichotomies where the In-B was weak, and Thanos and Warock have both been stated to be "Outside the realm of Chaos and Order" before. When Chaos and Order moved against Thanos the first time, they maneuvered Spider-Man to re-activate Warlock via the Soul Gem. They didn't sick the In-B on him.
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Well, the fact that you supposedly hate me. I piss you off, etc.I value lots of opinions. I value yours sometimes as well... when you're actually reading what the other person has to say...
I see you missed my edit, oh well.
Kronos actually did surpass Death's power. Since, he created Drax, and Drax can't die permanently. Also, his power supposedly has Drax being able to surpass Death's power as well, since Thanos was immortal ever since he came back from the grave.
I'm not saying he's more powerful than Death, but, he made someone basically immortal, and he made that same being able to kill an immortal being.Of course, it's up for debate whether or not Thanos was immortal, since Death started to love him again prior to the incident. But still, he was the only one capable of killing Thanos since Warlock back before his upgrade (and immortality), so why people speculate, is beyond me.
Plus, only Drax and Warlock have ever delievered enough damage that could actually kill him. Others have only scratched him, cut him.
He doesn't even really need immortaility.He was created to kill him since day one, and no one else was.
Made you think for that one. 😛
Originally posted by Laminator_X
I suppose that all "cosmic" comic stories suffer from some degree of silliness by their overly-dramatic nature.However, Chronos became one with the power that gives the Eternals their durability when he discorporated. I conjectured (and this is conjecture, mind you) that this gave him an advantageous insight where his grandson's invulnerability is concerned, one that he used when reformulating the new Destroyer 3.0 "Finesse Edition."
WRT the In-Betweener specifically, Thanos beat him in a zone without dichotomies where the In-B was weak, and Thanos and Warock have both been stated to be "Outside the realm of Chaos and Order" before. When Chaos and Order moved against Thanos the first time, they maneuvered Spider-Man to re-activate Warlock via the Soul Gem. They didn't sick the In-B on him.
a more in depth version of what ive said, very nicely put. Like i said before it makes perfect sense when you think about
