Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Thinking's for the weak.I just type whatever pops up into my mind at the time.
You gotta admit, that whole kronos> Death and kronos>> HOTU upgrade was tricky. you still didn't address how kronos got around the HOTU upgrade. since thanos was basically god and made preparations for just such an attack.
Originally posted by darthgooberWhich always ****s me up. how can they stand out side of destiny and yet still be featured in what if's? There should be only one version of characters like Warlock, Thanos, ect.
If you think about it, Thanos(like Adam Warlock) stands just outside the realm of Order and Chaos. He's not completely outside reality like Warlock, but he's got a "special" relationship at the very least. There's a chance that IB might not be able to directly harm Thanos if you think about it...
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Which always ****s me up. how can they stand out side of destiny and yet still be featured in what if's? There should be only one version of characters like Warlock, Thanos, ect.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlThanos completely let his guard down before Drax attacked him. If you're implying Cosmic Awareness.
You gotta admit, that whole kronos> Death and kronos>> HOTU upgrade was tricky. you still didn't address how kronos got around the HOTU upgrade. since thanos was basically god and made preparations for just such an attack.
Plus, Current Drax was created after the HOTU arc.
I believe it said in Annihilation, that everytime Drax is reborn, he has all the tools to kill Thanos.
However, in previous incarnations, he never had the chance to actually succeed, as Thanos always fought back.
However, when Thanos saw Death, he just stopped, and next thing you know, a hand comes out of his chest.
It's not dumb writing, or a retcon.
In fact, if Thanos would have fought back, Drax would have most likely been destroyed again.
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Thanos completely let his guard down before Drax attacked him. If you're implying Cosmic Awareness.Plus, Current Drax was created after the HOTU arc.
I believe it said in Annihilation, that everytime Drax is reborn, he has all the tools to kill Thanos.
However, in previous incarnations, he never had the chance to actually succeed, as Thanos always fought back.However, when Thanos saw Death, he just stopped, and next thing you know, a hand comes out of his chest.
It's not dumb writing, or a retcon.In fact, if Thanos would have fought back, Drax would have most likely been destroyed again.
I am not buying it. Thanos, prep God, got one shotted? It's just fishy to me. But hey, Lot's of comics concerning uber villians are fishy.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Maybe only the 616 versions stand out, who knows? What if's are kinda f*cked up though(in that they often ignore the Marvel Cosmology) so I try not to take then too seriously. I get what you're saying though, in fact I think it would be cool if Marvel did off with all the "alternate versions" of Thanos and Warlock to illustrate their uniqueness in the grand scheme of things.
That's what I'm saying. how can there be alternate versions of these guys when they aren't bound to any time line or fate? How can something like a twist of fate create an alter Thanos when he isn't bound by fate in the first place?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlIt doesn't matter how good he is at prep, he basically let Drax kill him. Otherwise, Drax would have probably been disintegrated.
I am not buying it. Thanos, prep God, got one shotted? It's just fishy to me. But hey, Lot's of comics concerning uber villians are fishy.
He was designed to kill him. He had the mindset this time as well.
It makes sense. Plus, it wouldn't make sense for Drax to wear him down...
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
It doesn't matter how good he is at prep, he basically let Drax kill him. Otherwise, Drax would have probably been disintegrated.He was designed to kill him. He had the mindset this time as well.
It makes sense. Plus, it wouldn't make sense for Drax to wear him down...
Kronos God of PREP?
Drax got a different set of powers each time he was resurrected, new powers each time after the previous ones failed to get the job done. There have been 3 very distinct versions of Drax with different powersets, the new one has powers that negate Thanos' own powers, the previous ones could fly, had super strength etc (which the current one doesn't).
It was stated over and over in Annihilation this current Drax was Thanos' silver bullet, the writers and editors have said the same thing, he is unique. That green aura around Drax as he approched Thanos was his 'silver bullet' powers activating, thats why we haven't seen it before or after. To ignore the facts is just ignorant, Wolverine is not killing Thanos just because Drax could.
Originally posted by Wally West
Drax got a different set of powers each time he was resurrected, new powers each time after the previous ones failed to get the job done. There have been 3 very distinct versions of Drax with different powersets, the new one has powers that negate Thanos' own powers, the previous ones could fly, had super strength etc (which the current one doesn't).It was stated over and over in Annihilation this current Drax was Thanos' silver bullet, the writers and editors have said the same thing, he is unique. That green aura around Drax as he approched Thanos was his 'silver bullet' powers activating, thats why we haven't seen it before or after. To ignore the facts is just ignorant, Wolverine is not killing Thanos just because Drax could.
Who's ignoring those facts? I don't see anyone ignoring them. I see people debating over the validity of the retcon. And How good of a retcon it actually was. Did I miss something?
I would not go so far as to say that Kronos was a god of prep, since it was prett obvious he did not really do a great job with Drax. It seems more like a deus ex machina to me. I read some of Schmidt's interviews, and while I cannot remember well enough to quote with accuracy, I felt that they scripted Thanos to die, and simply saw Drax as their get-out-of-jail card.
Originally posted by Ouallada
I would not go so far as to say that Kronos was a god of prep, since it was prett obvious he did not really do a great job with Drax. It seems more like a deus ex machina to me. I read some of Schmidt's interviews, and while I cannot remember well enough to quote with accuracy, I felt that they scripted Thanos to die, and simply saw Drax as their get-out-of-jail card.
Bascially what we all were thinking anyway.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Who's ignoring those facts? I don't see anyone ignoring them. I see people debating over the validity of the retcon. And How good of a retcon it actually was. Did I miss something?
I think you're misusing the term "retcon." When Drax was reborn with his personality restored, a new look, and an altered power set in the midst of the story; that wasn't "retroactive continuity," that was a new development.
A retcon would've been if they said he had always been able to do this but had been unaware of it or had been holding back for some (probably lame and contrived) reason.
Originally posted by Laminator_X
I think you're misusing the term "retcon." When Drax was reborn with his personality restored, a new look, and an altered power set in the midst of the story; that wasn't "[b]retroactive continuity," that was a new development.A retcon would've been if they said he had always been able to do this but had been unaware of it or had been holding back for some (probably lame and contrived) reason. [/B]
Hence the "retcon" in my earlier quotes. And the New developement still seems lame. Especially given the fact that kronos created drax BEFORE Thanos had those upgrades. Makes it seem like Kronos is superior to the power of the heart and death.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Hence the "retcon" in my earlier quotes. And the New developement still seems lame. Especially given the fact that kronos created drax BEFORE Thanos had those upgrades. Makes it seem like Kronos is superior to the power of the heart and death.
This is my take. Thanos lost interest in supreme power after the cube/ig/hotu, and hence his upgrades were in a way a means to avoid repercussions from his failed attempts at universal dominion. For some reason, Thanos needed to die in Annihilation, because I never bought the reason for his inclusion. Wanting to see what effects such an invasion would have? This, coming from a being who has had both omniscience and omnipotence, seems like a weak reason. Thanos was there for a reason, and his conversation with Death, as well as his turnabout and acceptence of his own death tell me that the reason was to die. The only way they could have pulled it off was to use Drax, with emphasis on the latter's unique ability to kill Thanos. Drax was simply a means to the end.