Superman vs Silver surfer

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Supes can amp his strength and all other stats as well, so how does strength amp make Thanos stronger?

True that Thor is more versatile than Superman, but 85-95% of the time he is written like a brick with a hammer.

Crossovers are crap.

It's common knowledge that Darkseid would make Surfer his ***** faster and easier than Thanos has.

Yeah supes can amp his strength up, by sun dipping. Thanos can do so just by using his cosmic powers whereas superman has to go to a different location to get a strength boost. While fight superman cant amp his strength or he would have done that while fighting doomsday instead of ending up dying.

Thor in comics is a brick on a forum he use his power to its potential. Like I said thor is more versatile than superman which leads to him being able to fight people that superman might cant fight because of thors powerset.

I know that darkseid MIGHT could own silver surfer but he thought about it before attacking silver surfer and threw everything that he had at surfer and when he seen that surfer overcame everything, he back stabbed him.

Like I said before, silver surfer made black racer run and leave out of fear whereas superman attacked black racer during the imperex saga ending with superman being koed. The sad thing about it was that black racer didnt even look superman way and he had steel in his hands taking him to darkseid and supes still got koed.

Also during a crossover with supes and surfer, supes stated that surfer is one of the most powerful beings that he ever encountered.

Originally posted by carver9
Yeah supes can amp his strength up, by sun dipping. Thanos can do so just by using his cosmic powers whereas superman has to go to a different location to get a strength boost. While fight superman cant amp his strength or he would have done that while fighting doomsday instead of ending up dying.

Thor in comics is a brick on a forum he use his power to its potential. Like I said thor is more versatile than superman which leads to him being able to fight people that superman might cant fight because of thors powerset.

I know that darkseid MIGHT could own silver surfer but he thought about it before attacking silver surfer and threw everything that he had at surfer and when he seen that surfer overcame everything, he back stabbed him.

Like I said before, silver surfer made black racer run and leave out of fear whereas superman attacked black racer during the imperex saga ending with superman being koed. The sad thing about it was that black racer didnt even look superman way and he had steel in his hands taking him to darkseid and supes still got koed.

Also during a crossover with supes and surfer, supes stated that surfer is one of the most powerful beings that he ever encountered.

Supes can amp his stats without the need for a sundip. It has been stated that under stress Superman absorbs more yellow sunlight which in turn amps his stats. And then of course exists the all-mighty sundip, but I wasn't talking about it.

Yeah. I grant Thor his versatility over Supes, but he doesn't triumph Surfer in comics because of his versatility, but because of the good ole punch, and/or Hammer to the face strategy.

Get the crossover out of the discussion and we can have a decent conversation. It's common knowledge crossovers are crap.

It's true. The Surfer is one of the most powerful beings Kal-El has encountered. He's showing his respect, as do I.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Supes can amp his stats without the need for a sundip. It has been stated that under stress Superman asborbs more yellow sunlight which in turn amps his stats. And then of course exists the all-mighty sundip, but I wasn't talking about it.

Yeah. I grant Thor his versatility over Supes, but he doesn't triumph Surfer in comics because of his versatility, but because of the good ole punch, and/or Hammer to the face strategy.

Get the crossover out of the discussion and we can have a decent conversation. It's common knowledge crossovers are crap.

It's true. The Surfer is one of the most powerful beings Kal-El has encountered. He's showing his respect, as do I.

yep youre right crossovers are crap but people used that in the thor vs superman battle. You do know that thor is hitting surfer with the hammer right. The hammer that is pure magic and that is backed up by a guy that strength range is almost on par with superman. Yeah that hit is going to do a lot of damage.

The thing about this is that superman isnt blessed with that hammer or anything else that would take a well written surfer out of the fight unless you think that superman punch harder than galactus, a guy that have slapped surfer around on numerous occasions.

Superman dont have a way to win this battle, plain and simple, whereas thor have many options to deploy and his hammer also absorbs majority all attacks. Surfer speed allows him to get any attack that he wants on supes which will have an impact on superman (the guy is shooting out cosmic energy and no telling what else since he do have the ability to matter manipulate), whereas surfer is faster than superman and can dodge most of supermans attacks but could also take supermans attacks (by the way heat vision wont do nothing but amp surfers powers up.). Superman only line of offense is his strength and we dont even know if thats going to work.

Surfer can easily fight superman from a distance with his long range attacks and do you really think that superman heat vision (power up for surfer) or ice breath is going to do anything to surfer. The only thing that superman can do is bring the fight up close and personal but surfer has strength of his own and it would make it much easier for him to blast all day on superman.

Surfer just makes this fight easy and take away superman powers like he did god like cable and that would end that.

I'm not trying to defend Supes vs. Surfer. Already did that a while ago. I was just commenting on your post about Thanos being stronger than Supes because he can amp.

About the knocking head off Surfer buster punch; I wasn't being serious, or was I?

*Throws smoke bomb and laughs like a maniac...once the smoke clears he is still standing there*

Umm...*Sweatdrops*

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
I'm not trying to defend Supes vs. Surfer. Already did that a while ago. I was just commenting on your post about Thanos being stronger than Supes because he can amp.

About the knocking head off Surfer buster punch; I wasn't being serious, or was I?

*Throws smoke bomb and laughs like a maniac...once the smoke clears he is still standing there*

Umm...*Sweatdrops*

Im not trying to attack you, I was just debating. It seems like you know a lot about superman so the things that you said might be right, thats why I didnt argue with you when you said something about his amp strength in my second post because hey you might is right about that. I was debating about the surfer vs superman fight. 🙂

I knew that you was playing about knocking surfer head off, thats why I didnt respond to it.

I give Surfer the majority over Supes. He just has too many options to bring the Man of Steel down. Either by draining the solar radiation out of his cells; Exposing him to red sunlight; Emitting kryptonite radiation; among others. I do reckon Supes weaknesses are not as huge as they used to be, but they will definitely be his downfall specially against an opponent as powerful as the Surfer. I don't see Supes winning unless he manages to get a quick K.O. over Surfer before he totally rapes him by exploiting his weaknesses. Then again if the writter decides to make them brawl it out Supes chances become much better.

All in all I'd rather see them work as a team against incredible odds instead of having both of them duke it out.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
I give Surfer the majority over Supes. He just has too many options to bring the Man of Steel down. Either by draining the solar radiation out of his cells; Exposing him to red sunlight; Emitting kryptonite radiation; among others. I do reckon Supes weaknesses are not as huge as they used to be, but they will definitely be his downfall specially against an opponent as powerful as the Surfer. I don't see Supes winning unless he manages to get a quick K.O. over Surfer before he totally rapes him by exploiting his weaknesses. Then again if the writter decides to make them brawl it out Supes chances become much better.

All in all I'd rather see them work as a team against incredible odds instead of having both of them duke it out.

I was saying the same thing. A well written surfer takes this everytime. A surfer that is trying to brawl instead of using his powers will lose everytime but these forums is a character using there abilities to there best, so surfer is beating superman. Just to much power.

I hadn't visited this thread or, for that matter, these forums in a while. I was interested in Juntai's and Avalon's responses to my last posts several weeks ago. I was going to respond indepthly about their failure in rebutting my assertions. Particularly how making and fighting in black holes matters in a fight against Superman. For f@ck's sake, that would be a battlefield in which he has a clear advantage. But whatever.

Since then, the thread has righted itself. As much as I'd like to convince Superman fanboys that Surfer takes a clear majority, it isn't necessary as a clear and convincing majority of posters have conceded so through the 100+ pages of this thread.

Surfer 7/10.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I hadn't visited this thread or, for that matter, these forums in a while. I was interested in Juntai's and Avalon's responses to my last posts several weeks ago. I was going to respond indepthly about their failure in rebutting my assertions. Particularly how making and fighting in black holes matters in a fight against Superman. For f@ck's sake, that would be a battlefield in which he has a clear advantage. But whatever.

Since then, the thread has righted itself. As much as I'd like to convince Superman fanboys that Surfer takes a clear majority, it isn't necessary as a clear and convincing majority of posters have conceded so through the 100+ pages of this thread.

Surfer 7/10.

Nice pic.

he could give him a large amount of red sun. and then change his ass in to stone

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I hadn't visited this thread or, for that matter, these forums in a while. I was interested in Juntai's and Avalon's responses to my last posts several weeks ago. I was going to respond indepthly about their failure in rebutting my assertions. Particularly how making and fighting in black holes matters in a fight against Superman. For f@ck's sake, that would be a battlefield in which he has a clear advantage. But whatever.

Since then, the thread has righted itself. As much as I'd like to convince Superman fanboys that Surfer takes a clear majority, it isn't necessary as a clear and convincing majority of posters have conceded so through the 100+ pages of this thread.

Surfer 7/10.

A black hole doesn't mean much to Superman, he's been in them, out of them, held them, closed them. Whatever.

Originally posted by lionking
he could give him a large amount of red sun. and then change his ass in to stone

Silver Surfer 163 66.53%
Superman 82 33.47%

Hmm, Surfer.

Originally posted by Madvillain
Silver Surfer 163 66.53%
Superman 82 33.47%

Hmm, Surfer.

Ever heard of the logical fallacy of "appeal to majority?"

The majority's not always right.

😬.

Tall-poppy syndrome.

Originally posted by Soljer
Ever heard of the logical fallacy of "appeal to majority?"

The majority's not always right.

😬.

well in this case they are.

Both giving a good effort I gotta go with Surfer. Superman has too many weaknesses he can exploit.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I hadn't visited this thread or, for that matter, these forums in a while. I was interested in Juntai's and Avalon's responses to my last posts several weeks ago. I was going to respond indepthly about their failure in rebutting my assertions. Particularly how making and fighting in black holes matters in a fight against Superman. For f@ck's sake, that would be a battlefield in which he has a clear advantage. But whatever.

Since then, the thread has righted itself. As much as I'd like to convince Superman fanboys that Surfer takes a clear majority, it isn't necessary as a clear and convincing majority of posters have conceded so through the 100+ pages of this thread.

Surfer 7/10.

There was nothing to respond to...the laughable version of forum SS that you use doesn´t exist. Combining all of Supermanś high feats into a forum Superman and they pretty much even out nicely.

Either that or Superman puts SS in an armlock ftw. 🙂

Originally posted by Madvillain
well in this case they are.

No they're not.