One must pay attention to what is being written and thought by DS. He taps The Limitless might of primal magic thru etrigan and it mingles with his own might. Thus implying the two are nearly even. DS own power and the might of PRIMAL magic. They hold the Ale and all it does is flex, and releases itself. A small fraction of the power of the ALE will fulfill ALL of DS dreams. Do we all know his dreams? Like to rule creation.
This are pretty much the best feats that ALE has shown us aswell as a few statements describing it's power:
Metron's reaction when he meets the ALE, also calling it a being of limitless power :
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/Ale006.jpg
Darkseid merges with Etrigan's power (limitless source of pure nature) and is defeated easily, with Darkseid saying that the creature is stronger than he ever dared dream and that only a small fraction of its power would fulfill all his heart's desires:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/Ale017.jpg
Look at what powers Fate pools in order to defeat the ALE:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/Ale018.jpg
But even being near-Omnipotent to the point where he almost went mad, the ALE was still more powerfull than them:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/Ale021.jpg
ALE for the win.
The ALE never actually did too much on panel that impressed me...
Certain characters may have called it a source of limitlesss power -- But various characters also referred to Solar as the literal "God", so you can see how much that means. srsly
Anyhow,
The ALE didn't have enough power to break out of it's own dimension, under it's own power, [so much for 'limitless power', ey?] -- In fact, killing the ALE required the destruction of it's dimension.
Solar created/destroyed UniverseS like nothing.
IMO,
Solar ftw.
Originally posted by Galan007
The ALE never actually did too much on panel that impressed me...Certain characters may have called it a source of limitlesss power -- But various characters also referred to Solar as the literal "God", so you can see how much that means. srsly
Anyhow,
The ALE didn't have enough power to break out of it's own dimension, under it's own power, [so much for 'limitless power', ey?] -- In fact, killing the ALE required the destruction of it's dimension.
Solar created/destroyed UniverseS like nothing.
IMO,
Solar ftw.
That isn't the way it seemed to me. It seemed like the ALE didn't have the smarts to break out. Or don't you think DS or Dr. Fate with the ALE entities power would easily be able to break out of said dimension. Think about it for a second and let it sink in.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlIt's irrevelent to this debate any way you look at it -- Tell me what the ALE actually did on panel that puts it above Solar. 🙂
That isn't the way it seemed to me. It seemed like the ALE didn't have the smarts to break out. Or don't you think DS or Dr. Fate with the ALE entities power would easily be able to break out of said dimension.
Originally posted by Galan007
It's irrevelent to this debate any way you look at it -- Tell me what the ALE actually did on panel that puts it above Solar. 🙂
Um, The Cinque of power destroyed a reality. ANd yet thier power was nothing compared to the ALE. the best they could do was push it back a lil and run from it. Solar at best is also universal. But we know the cinque was more than universal. They were tapping NABU"s power. Nabu>>Solar. And the The Source>>>Solar.
Originally posted by Galan007
It's funny how you know nothing about the characters you debate -- Especially when you try to argue them.Solar.... Universal "at best"..... 😂
This is why I don't like debating with you btw. 🙂
Ok, Well enlighten. I didn't read any where in the respect thread of him creating a mutliverse or destroying one. Please do, enlighten me. Show me a scan of him being more than a universal being. LOL.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlThe fact that he was creating UniverseS [plural] as an afterthought?
Ok, Well enlighten. I didn't read any where in the respect thread of him creating a mutliverse or destroying one. Please do, enlighten me. Show me a scan of him being more than a universal being. LOL.
Not saying Solar takes this 10/10 -- But I think he would take the majority for sure. 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007
The fact that he was creating UniverseS [plural] as an afterthought?Not saying Solar takes this 10/10 -- But I think he would take the majority for sure. 🙂
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlFor sure.
I totally agree. WHich is a point I tried to argue months ago. THat the ALE is a pretty dimwitted cosmic being.
In terms of sheer power, we know it's pretty damn tough -- Simply because darkseid, [with a tiny fraction of it's power], would have still been able to easily rule his dimension.
Though that in itself speaks volumes about how powerful the ALE was -- My point is that the Entity itself never really impressed me on panel.
Showing more intelligence would have been a good way for us to see what the ALE could really do... But then again, it may have been unstoppable if it were smarter. srsly
But as is, Solar would beat it, me thinks. 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007
For sure.In terms of sheer power, we know it's pretty damn tough -- Simply because darkseid, [with a tiny fraction of it's power], would have still been able to easily rule his dimension.
Though that in itself speaks volumes about how powerful the ALE was -- My point is that the Entity itself never really impressed me on panel.
Showing more intelligence would have been a good way for us to see what the ALE could really do... But then again, it may have been unstoppable if it were smarter. srsly
But as is, Solar would beat it, me thinks. 🙂
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlI won't speculate,
ONe has to wonder tho if Solar possesses the right kind of power and raw power that the cinque was tapping. ANd if he does, does he know how to beat the ALE? Dr. Fate is a monster when it comes to knowlege. I see Solar accidently collapsing a universe to escape the ALE and winning via BFR.
But Solar does have knowledge, and the ability to manipulate, ALL types of energy -- With that ability plus the "knowledge of your opponent" rule, Solar should be able to exploit the ALE in a similiar fashion.
But as you said.... BFR is always an option. 😛
