Originally posted by BentleyAnd I'm sure if Kang ever needed to absorb Galactus' power, he'd go steal it from Doom. You're applying a qualified and lmited statement to the totality of all their tech. Whetehr or not that is bad English, we know that certain of Doom's tech far surpasses certain of Kang's and accordingly, the totality comparison is hasty, if not irresponsible.
I don't exactly get your argument, from one side, Doom aknowledges he needs tech more advanced than his to track the Cosmic Cubes and goes to someone who happens to have it. Keep in mind that it's night impossible to get hard proof of "who has the best tech", Kang has very few appearances and the tech he musters can rarely compare directly with Doom quality-wise. Statements and generalizations are the best possible proof we can get in this case for a number of reasons.What about Kang's Damocles Base, Chronopolis or the Heart of Forever? Those techs are quite up there as far as tech goes.
A Doombot had a starship that blew up planet. To my knowledge, Kang did not invent Chronopolis or the Heart of Forever, yes? Chronopolis was a location that Kang took over and manipulated and by its nature, contained the Heart of Forever as its nexus. Might as well use the Microverse when Doom took that over for a time.
Originally posted by Lord_Talronhe took it.His now.If Doom steals some of reeds tech and constantly uses it does it mean its still reeds tech?No.
as far as i understand altho im most knowledgeable about early kang; his expertise is time traveling and waging wars. most of his tech wasnt his necessarily but stuff he had picked up thru-out time
It belongs to DOOM now!
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
And I'm sure if Kang ever needed to absorb Galactus' power, he'd go steal it from Doom. You're applying a qualified and lmited statement to the totality of all their tech. Whetehr or not that is bad English, we know that certain of Doom's tech far surpasses certain of Kang's and accordingly, the totality comparison is hasty, if not irresponsible.
If Doom wanted to light a room he would use a lightball. Of course we use the tech of our ancestors to an specific task, it saves a lot of time.
But I digress, Doom has some standard tech that has proved itself such as the metal alloy in his armor which has better unshielded durability than most of Kang's armors. No, I don't think everything Kang owns is better than what Doom uses, but it doesn't mean we judge his technology as inferior since it's from further in the future.
We can only make justice to tech that has been used, but if we had to assume about random tech never shown on panel it would be natural to follow statements such as having "future and more advanced" tech.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
A Doombot had a starship that blew up planet. To my knowledge, Kang did not invent Chronopolis or the Heart of Forever, yes? Chronopolis was a location that Kang took over and manipulated and by its nature, contained the Heart of Forever as its nexus. Might as well use the Microverse when Doom took that over for a time.
Huh, wrong. Kang did invent both the Heart and Chronopolis,.
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Kang%20the%20Conqueror/Noimmortus.jpg
"I have studied it for years since you created it"
The city was indeed built in a time-less zone, but accessing and changing the location into what Chronopolis became was all Kang.
Regarding the Damocles base: Fighting off Quasar, Thor and a bunch of Avengers is more impressive that the sheer damage of planet busting imo.
Originally posted by -K-M-
Nope, the guy that made Kang's technology look like a childs toy 😉
Kang one-shot those bases when it came down to it ahah
Originally posted by Lord_Talron
as far as i understand altho im most knowledgeable about early kang; his expertise is time traveling and waging wars. most of his tech wasnt his necessarily but stuff he had picked up thru-out time
Kang's expertise is temporal physics, war fare and robotics. He's enough of an engineer to understand the tech he steals though.
Check the abilities section:
^ How about we agree to disagree, but agree that Master sucks compared to Doom or Kang? ... more to Doom, of course
Originally posted by BentleyYour ending conclusion would make sense if I somehow acknowledged that Doom's tech is outclassed in every respect but Kang's tech should be discounted because it's from the future.
If Doom wanted to light a room he would use a lightball. Of course we use the tech of our ancestors to an specific task, it saves a lot of time.But I digress, Doom has some standard tech that has proved itself such as the metal alloy in his armor which has better unshielded durability than most of Kang's armors. No, I don't think everything Kang owns is better than what Doom uses, but it doesn't mean we judge his technology as inferior since it's from further in the future.
We can only make justice to tech that has been used, but if we had to assume about random tech never shown on panel it would be natural to follow statements such as having "future and more advanced" tech.
Fact is, some of Doom's current tech does outclass Kang's future tech presently. And since cross-dimensional scanners was what Doom wanted from Kang in Infinity War, I don't see qualified, limited statements being reliable enough evidence to make a generalized blanket assumption that overrides what we know is false in particularized situations.
Originally posted by BentleyAnd
Huh, wrong. Kang did invent both the Heart and Chronopolis,.http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Kang%20the%20Conqueror/Noimmortus.jpg
"I have studied it for years since you created it"
The city was indeed built in a time-less zone, but accessing and changing the location into what Chronopolis became was all Kang.
Regarding the Damocles base: Fighting off Quasar, Thor and a bunch of Avengers is more impressive that the sheer damage of planet busting imo.
To you maybe. Faux Destroyer armor probably could do that if it were finished. Course it was a cheap knockoff... but I guess we aren't concerned about that. 😖hifty:
Low blow? Low blow.
As far as I know Kang's knowledge about time-travel are derived from Doom's original time machine, because he found the broken machine, fixed it and went his way into the past.
How did he learn time-physics is subject to speculation, we know at least of one other time-traveller who went into that time-line -Reed's father-, and there might've been a theoretical base he took to develop everthing he did later on. Since Kang is such a rogue individual and there aren't many time-travellers using similar methods it's fair to assume he made breakthroughs in time physics by himself.
Specially if we consider Immortus who also got tutored by the Time Keepers -but Kang built the Heart of Forever before meeting them-.
Some of the most impressive Doom tech as of late has been mixed with magics, making it hard to compare with purely scientifical objects. The Vibranium armor deserved a bit more action than it got, but Doomwar showed some potential in the tech/magic blending.
I don't know if anyone wants to add anything, I pretty much stated my reasons to believe Kang can beat Doom in a pure tech match while accepting magic is too big of a weakness and Doom has finally begun catching up with his "second to sorcerer supreme" fame.
Doom has a very good shot at winning this using magic. Immortus would be a better match.
However, Kang would stomp the Master pretty decisively 😖hifty:
Originally posted by Bentley
However, Kang would stomp the Master pretty decisively 😖hifty:
ORLY?
1. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/Avengersv352-CounterAttack-12.jpg
2. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/Avengersv352-CounterAttack-14.jpg
3. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/Avengersv352-CounterAttack-15.jpg
😉
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
... which are wrong/insufficient nevertheless. We forgive you. 😐
Keyword being "believe". Feel free to debunk the Heart of the Universe as a multiversal machine done without using cosmic artifacts though. 😉
Originally posted by -K-M-
ORLY?1. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/Avengersv352-CounterAttack-12.jpg
2. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/Avengersv352-CounterAttack-14.jpg
3. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/Avengersv352-CounterAttack-15.jpg😉
In Kang's counterattack he punked those bases which went to "regenerate" and got saved only thanks to a giant funky pyramid.
Originally posted by Bentley
In Kang's counterattack he punked those bases which went to "regenerate" and got saved only thanks to a giant funky pyramid.
Oh you mean the one base that was being run by the Avengers and not the Master? Also it took the combined intellect of Hank Pym, Stingray, Black Knight, Tony Stark to understand a small part of his tech.
1. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/Avengersv352-CounterAttack-05-1.jpg
2. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/Avengersv352-CounterAttack-06-1.jpg
Basic weapons of the Master was popping Kang's shields like a "bubble".
Nice try 😉
It's true that the Master survived through the ordeal and went to... Oh wait!
Also, Damocles one-shot those defenses and they didn't pop the base's shields like a bubble, not at all:
