Kang vs Doctor Doom

Originally posted by Bentley
It's true that the Master survived through the ordeal and went to... Oh wait!

Also, Damocles one-shot those defenses and they didn't pop the base's shields like a bubble, not at all:

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Kang%20the%20Conqueror/Kang-Fight/Holofight3.jpg

He actually did survive, he's not dead.

I was talking about his tech on earth. Ms.Marvel made the reference to popping the shields like a bubble

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1. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/Avengersv352-CounterAttack-01.jpg
2. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/Avengersv352-CounterAttack-0203.jpg

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1. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Avengersv346-AbsoluteMastery-0405.jpg
2. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Avengersv346-AbsoluteMastery-06.jpg
3. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Avengersv346-AbsoluteMastery-10.jpg

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

Fact is, some of Doom's current tech does outclass Kang's future tech presently. And since cross-dimensional scanners was what Doom wanted from Kang in Infinity War, I don't see qualified, limited statements being reliable enough evidence to make a generalized blanket assumption that overrides what we know is false in particularized situations. And likely probably derived from Doom's time travel tech. Would you grant Doom using Celestial tech to change Counter-Earth to his liking an invention of Doom's?

To be fair I think we would assume that in general Kangs tech is more impressive by default. They're both genuises but Kang comes from the future were tech is much more advanced. Of course in comics it doesn't always work like that but when Doom stated that Kangs dimensional porters were superior I was not surpised, I highly doubt that writers would state that Kangs tech in general is superior on panel when both characters have fans. Im not entirely sure but I think Kangs tech in general has been more impressive.

Also I don't think Doom specified exactly what tech he needed. We could guess what they are but it could a whole load of things as well as just merely dimensional porters (cant remember excatly what you said). However I don't think that Kang has anything that Doom doesn't understands or can build, and I'm sure thats what the writer was trying to imply.

^ Except not. Except when it comes to Doom and Reed. The writers did not state Kang's tech in general is superior on panel.

I'm sure you're wrong.

Originally posted by Bentley
Keyword being "believe". Feel free to debunk the Heart of the Universe as a multiversal machine done without using cosmic artifacts though.

Just that I stated why I believe something, I don't try to make it pass like an universal law.

Don't be so aggressive damn it 😠

😄

I think, there is a bio stating Kang's tech is superior to Doom's or Stark's, it is, however, not as hard as a proof as an on panel statement -and it's a few years old-. So well, I'll look it up just to throw it into the debate, but I think most of the reasonable positions have been underlined in the debate we just had.

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@KM: Master's shield would be shitty too if he had to make them for many random soldiers he picked up to invade Earth, give your best tech to low rank soldiers and you will get bit in the *ss. 😈

Maybe the Master can beat Doom's tech though ermmha

Originally posted by Bentley
@KM: Master's shield would be shitty too if he had to make them for many random soldiers he picked up to invade Earth, give your best tech to low rank soldiers and you will get bit in the *ss. 😈

Maybe the Master can beat Doom's tech though ermmha

Kang's shields were very impressive in the story, but Master's were non-existant which was odd.

Oh snap

But there were shields in the story, Kang's tech is so over them they were useless 🙂

Crappy sentinels failing to break through Master's shields:

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Kang%20the%20Conqueror/ConquersEarth2.jpg

Originally posted by Bentley
But there were shields in the story, Kang's tech is so over them they were useless 🙂

Crappy sentinels failing to break through Master's shields:

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Kang%20the%20Conqueror/ConquersEarth2.jpg

Not really, as mentioned Washington would have been protected from Kang's attack if Master was around to compensate.

I was referring to the Master's own personal shields, which would have stopped him from getting stabbed in the first place

Well, I brought up Kang's tech and the shields just because it was kind of into the conversation. Washington would've fell down under Kang's mighty fist, we both know that 😈

If Ms. Marvel does better than an entire Alpha Flight rooster, who am I to criticize that?

She would've absorbed the shieldz!!!!11

biscuits

Originally posted by Bentley
Well, I brought up Kang's tech and the shields just because it was kind of into the conversation. Washington would've fell down under Kang's mighty fist, we both know that 😈

If Ms. Marvel does better than an entire Alpha Flight rooster, who am I to criticize that?

She would've absorbed the shieldz!!!!11

biscuits

Whatever helps you sleep in your comfy bed 😉

If only the other energy absorbers on Alpha Flight would have thought of that....problem is, Master absorbs energy too. 😛

Kang stated on panel that he would beat the master, Kang wouldn't lie to me biscuits

Let's face it. Everyone gives Doom the benefit of the doubt. But it's for a good reason. Not being educated usually leads to ignorance. With Doom, it actually breeds underestimation.

Kang is underrated. Sure.

Master is just... quaint.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Oh snap

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Let's face it. Everyone gives Doom the benefit of the doubt. But it's for a good reason. Not being educated usually leads to ignorance. With Doom, it actually breeds underestimation.

Kang is underrated. Sure.

Master is just... quaint.

👆

(Specially the Master's part 😈 )

Originally posted by Bentley
Kang stated on panel that he would beat the master, Kang wouldn't lie to me biscuits

Where did he state that? Not like it matters as the Master has said he has plans for Dr.Doom, Thanos, Kang and Red Skull. Oh yes...it's damn true.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Where did he state that? Not like it matters as the Master has said he has plans for Dr.Doom, Thanos, Kang and Red Skull. Oh yes...it's damn true.

You know, his entire ramble about "not having to deal with Master's tech so early" because Marcus lied to him. Kang is made of truth.

(When it comes to dealing with Thanos the Master's plan was probably "inconditional surrender" the Red Skull he would probably shoot with a gun)

Originally posted by Bentley
You know, his entire ramble about "not having to deal with Master's tech so early" because Marcus lied to him. Kang is made of truth.

(When it comes to dealing with Thanos the Master's plan was probably "inconditional surrender" the Red Skull he would probably shoot with a gun)

Yes I remember that, but he never said he would beat him 🙂

Nuh uh..he's elite and probably would make them cry like really hard.

I'll be back from the mountains and battlezone you Kang vs the Master... Or just make a thread since it will be just us discussing anyways ermm

Meh! lazy

Doom didn't specify what tech he needed from Kang.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Kang%20the%20Conqueror/Kang-Tech/Kangstech.jpg

So it's highly unlikely he was talking about just one thing. Its safe to assume that it was at least numerous things and we can assume that the tech he needed was the tech that Kang used in their task. The tech that Kang used were scanners, cloaking device and method of transportation ( probably others). That tech can be applied to alot of other stuff as well, it pretty much implies that Kangs tech is generally better.

Also Doom doesn't have an advantage in magic. Tony has used his extremis armour to counter Dooms magic and Kang > Tony. We also see Kang using his tech to hide from Dr Strange, Surfer and Galactus, very impressive.

Originally posted by Deadline
Doom didn't specify what tech he needed from Kang.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Kang%20the%20Conqueror/Kang-Tech/Kangstech.jpg

So it's highly unlikely he was talking about just one thing. Its safe to assume that it was at least numerous things and we can assume that the tech he needed was the tech that Kang used in their task. The tech that Kang used were scanners, cloaking device and method of transportation ( probably others). That tech can be applied to alot of other stuff as well, it pretty much implies that Kangs tech is generally better.

Also Doom doesn't have an advantage in magic. Tony has used his extremis armour to counter Dooms magic and Kang > Tony. We also see Kang using his tech to hide from Dr Strange, Surfer and Galactus, very impressive.

When did Tony use his tech to counter Doom's magic?

Doom only used a minimal amount of his magic against Tony and it was enough to beat him. 😬

Originally posted by Mindset
IW was awhile ago, you really think Doom's tech is the same?

I could say the same thing about Kang. If Dooms tech has improved so has Kangs. I doubt its changed that much.

Originally posted by Mindset

When did Tony use his tech to counter Doom's magic?

Doom only used the crimson bands and he was beating Tony until Sentry came into the fight. Doom only used a minimal amount of his magic against Tony and it was enough to beat him. 😬

Mighty Avengers cant be arsed to get the issue. Theres another fight they had when they went back in time and Tony used zero point energy