Originally posted by Melcórë
Yet, have you never asked yourself why, if the Scriptures are correct, God suffered to let man Fall? What purpose did it serve in Its "plan," if It is truly omnipotent/omniscient?
I ask it allot, and there is no easy conclusion. If I understand your question correctly then my answer would be "I don't know", I'm not sure of Gods motives for allowing the fall- if he did allow it.
Although I think your also asking about suffering, well in the context of the poor people throughout the world starving to death the answer would have to be, yes God cares and far more deeply than anyone else can, however because he is omnipotent he has the ability to restrain himself from instant action that we humans might snap to if we had the chance. However thats not to say God hasn't put measures in place to deal with this. In the Book of Genesis God gave Stewardship of the Earth to man, its our job to look after it, its up to us to care for each other- why the greatest commandment isn't just love God, but love your neighbour in equal measure! (Not as God though, God still takes precedence Shaky). So, it is MANS responsibility to look after the people in poverty as God's appointed Stewards. Also, it would be very easy for us to ask God to help these people out and for him to do it...but he never put them in poverty...man did, man has done this to man...we cant just go to God and say "hey, we messed up. Help us out" otherwise everytime something bad happens man will expect God to resolve it...mankind would become the spoiled child who never learned its lesson.
Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
I ask it allot, and there is no easy conclusion. If I understand your question correctly then my answer would be "I don't know", I'm not sure of Gods motives for allowing the fall- if he did allow it.Although I think your also asking about suffering, well in the context of the poor people throughout the world starving to death the answer would have to be, yes God cares and far more deeply than anyone else can, however because he is omnipotent he has the ability to restrain himself from instant action that we humans might snap to if we had the chance. However thats not to say God hasn't put measures in place to deal with this. In the Book of Genesis God gave Stewardship of the Earth to man, its our job to look after it, its up to us to care for each other- why the greatest commandment isn't just love God, but love your neighbour in equal measure! (Not as God though, God still takes precedence Shaky). So, it is MANS responsibility to look after the people in poverty as God's appointed Stewards. Also, it would be very easy for us to ask God to help these people out and for him to do it...but he never put them in poverty...man did, man has done this to man...we cant just go to God and say "hey, we messed up. Help us out" otherwise everytime something bad happens man will expect God to resolve it...mankind would become the spoiled child who never learned its lesson.
I understand your point - mine is why, if God is omnipotent and omniscient, he would suffer to even create us if he knew our path? Indeed, by the very terms with which we describe It, God becomes all but responsible for allowing our "Fall" to have taken place.
Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
If God is omnipotent then he has to have the ability to allow/not stop/whatever the fall.
I believe that the idea that God is omnipotent is a human misunderstanding of something they have no ability to understand. It is an expression that has many inherent contradictions. These contradictions are a reflection of the fact that nothing that can be said about God can be completely correct. The fault is in our understanding.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I believe that the idea that God is omnipotent is a human misunderstanding of something they have no ability to understand. It is an expression that has many inherent contradictions. These contradictions are a reflection of the fact that nothing that can be said about God can be completely correct. The fault is in our understanding.
Bible never called him omnipotent.