Originally posted by BentonGrey
That's all we've seen him do with his lightning, whereas Elle (who we may assume is the source of Peter's power) completely fried a human being, so obviously we didn't see the upper limit of his power. It might also be possible that we didn't see the upper limit of HER power either, but that remains just speculation.
As it's speculation we can assume that the electricity that Peter and Elle generates isn't offensive enough to harm a Sentinel
Originally posted by BentonGrey
You're absolutely right, he would most certainly be a target, however, if, say, Storm can avoid the shots of a Sentinel, or Angel for that matter, then I think Peter may be able to as well. Nathan is shown easily breaking the sound barrier, and Matt implies that he's faster than a Jet in the latest episode (possibly).
Storm and Angel have decades of fighting experience. They've utilised their powers in almost every conceivable way. Peter got served by Sylar and pieces of glass.
That wasn't implied IMO. Matt just met Nathan in the previous episode, he hadn't seen him fly before so how would he know his speed?
Originally posted by BentonGrey
This being said, I think it's possible that he and the other heroes could keep the sentinels busy while Micah "hotwired" them, so to speak.
Micah is 11 years old. You really think he will be useful when giant robots packing a shitload of fire power are trying to kill you. You think any Heroes here are going to keep their heads?
Originally posted by The Pict
As it's speculation we can assume that the electricity that Peter and Elle generates isn't offensive enough to harm a Sentinel
That would be just as fair as my supposition, although the amount of power required to fry a human being is roughly equivalent to that found in naturally occurring lightning, the same kind used by Storm to destroy sentinels on many occasions.
Originally posted by The Pict
Storm and Angel have decades of fighting experience. They've utilised their powers in almost every conceivable way. Peter got served by Sylar and pieces of glass.
Very true, but once again, I feel like you're comparing apples and oranges. I'm positing an experienced Peter, who would have control over his abilities (perhaps not as experienced as Storm and Angel) but not the scared, inexperienced kid who was so easily taken out by Sylar. Conversely, the first time the X-Men faced the sentinels, they didn't have decades of experience, did they? Still, they were better trained than the Heroes by far. Perhaps if the Heroes were an actual team, trained by HRG, they'd stand a much better chance.
Originally posted by The Pict
That wasn't implied IMO. Matt just met Nathan in the previous episode, he hadn't seen him fly before so how would he know his speed?
Very true, which is why I tried to indicate that I was very unsure about that particular supposition. However, Parkman IS a mind reader, so if Nathan knows, it's possible he might know too. However, that's getting extremely shaky.
Originally posted by The Pict
Micah is 11 years old. You really think he will be useful when giant robots packing a shitload of fire power are trying to kill you. You think any Heroes here are going to keep their heads?
He's been shown to be remarkably capable for an 11 year old, but you certainly have a good point. However, since Peter is able to do essentially the same thing, even more efficiently, the theory is still sound. Still, D.L. could very well keep Micah safe, and if Micah could keep it together, the kid could pull it off....perhaps, although that is a pretty big if.😉
I doubt HRG could turn the Heroes into a Fighting unit. Nothing so far has shown that he could do anything along these lines. He's not even that intelligent to be honest. He was tricked and captured by his own Company. He's clever and dangerous, but he'd need some sort of military experience to effectively train the Heroes.
But it's nearly half four in the morning here. Too late for debating. I'll probably pick up on these arguments tomorrow if the are still on-going.
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Originally posted by The PictGoodnight again maybe by next week we can get more info on Peters capabilities.
I doubt HRG could turn the Heroes into a Fighting unit. Nothing so far has shown that he could do anything along these lines. He's not even that intelligent to be honest. He was tricked and captured by his own Company. He's clever and dangerous, but he'd need some sort of military experience to effectively train the Heroes.But it's nearly half four in the morning here. Too late for debating. I'll probably pick up on these arguments tomorrow if the are still on-going.
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Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
you said no time stop though, hiros powers include going through time and teleporting
This is the first post....PLEASE read it!!!!
Sentinels Invade Heroes.
Noah Bennet as leader
Mohinder Suresh co-leader
Claire Bennet
D.L. Hawkins
Sylar
Micah Sanders
Peter Petrelli
Nathan Petrelli
Matt Parkman
Takezo Kensei
Niki Sanders
Elle
Bennet and Suresh have two days prep.
No time stopping or altering. <<<pay attention to this part.
How many Mark II Sentinels can they take out before they are captured?
Last edited by endrict on Oct 23rd, 2007 at 02:41 PM
Or no teleport....I took out Hiro for a reason. That means Peter can't use the same powers...
Originally posted by endrict
This is the first post....PLEASE read it!!!!Sentinels Invade Heroes.
Noah Bennet as leader
Mohinder Suresh co-leaderClaire Bennet
D.L. Hawkins
Sylar
Micah Sanders
Peter Petrelli
Nathan Petrelli
Matt Parkman
Takezo Kensei
Niki Sanders
ElleBennet and Suresh have two days prep.
No time stopping or altering. <<<pay attention to this part.
How many Mark II Sentinels can they take out before they are captured?
Last edited by endrict on Oct 23rd, 2007 at 02:41 PM
Or no teleport....I took out Hiro for a reason. That means Peter can't use the same powers...
And Peter base off of his showings, can't teleport people or objects.
Originally posted by endrict
Question Micah controls some tech right? so if that's his power how can he phase when that's D.L powers set?
I believe he was referring to Micah while via holding on to DL
And we can only logically assume of Micah (as well as all the Heroes) that their power limits are judged by what we've seen on the show/comics, correct? Micah's biggest feat is having the votes shift in favor of Nathan correct?
While that IS impressive, I think its safe to say that a Mark II Sentinels AI design is more impressive than an electronic voting system. Not to mention it's weaponry, power core, automatic defense mechanisms, etc
That sad, I don't think Micah would make it too close to an active Sentinel to change the battle in their favor much. If there's two Sentinels, is it a stretch to assume that one will would scan Micah, identify him as a techno-path (or whatever he is) & proceed to take him out swiftly? He may not be an offensive threat, but he is a threat to them nonetheless
A lot of people either think a Sentinel will just stand around and wait to be attacked or are just not realizing how advanced a Mark II is; relative to these Heroes
Give Micah a few years with Forge & Iron Man and he'll solo these Sentinels himself, but at currently seen level & 2 days heads up? Not so much..
Claire Bennet - a distraction at most
D.L. Hawkins - can we include kitty's feats..very important
Sylar- important
Micah Sanders - well with prep he could be important
Peter Petrelli -important, if he can do what ted did..electro-magnetic pulse
Nathan Petrelli -distarction
Matt Parkman -with further elovling of his power, could be important
Takezo Kensei distraction
Niki Sanders -based on strength maybe a factor
Elle -could be important
With prep those that are distractions could be important if devices were used to shut them down, bennet and shuresh and micha?maybe they could make one?
i say three to four go down,if bennet can teach peter to do a eletro magnetic pulse....its over for all of them(markII are they immune to it?)
Claire, Kensei, & Matt, I don't think a Sentinel would even register as a distraction. Low level telepathy does nothing against a Sentinel and I doubt that he will be much of a benefit communicating with most of the Heroes.
What's Niki/Jessica's most impressive strength feat? She could be a distraction, but can she really do more than say dent through a Sentinels foot on the ground? Maybe if Nathan/Peter managed to fly her up to a specific place
But I see still see the Sentinels for the majority win, Heroes can take down one down if they're lucky.