Racism

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Originally posted by FistOfThe North
If i actually spell out the words you'd get nothing but asterisks, idiot. And tool, lol...wtf? How gay. I hate that word. "Tool".

"You're such a tool, dude"! Gay.

You stop thinking too. And stick to the topic and stop focusing on misspelled and derogatory terms for penises. As hard as that might be for you. Now check my spelling, Biwulf.

Ha, I owe myself $10...

I was spot on that I would get this kind of reply. You seem angry, and you also seem quite willing to use "gay" in a derogatory way. I thought you accepted all people for who they are? *shrug* whatever.

Originally posted by J-Beowulf
Ha, I owe myself $10...

I was spot on that I would get this kind of reply. You seem angry, and you also seem quite willing to use "gay" in a derogatory way. I thought you accepted all people for who they are? *shrug* whatever.

I thought you were smarter than that. (Well, not really). So you actually discussed your point to try to solely get me angry and/or offend me instead of debating a point and successfully concluding it. How smart. *snatches $10*

Kids.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Since i was a kid most Whites I've confronted in my life have judged me based on my skin color and treated me and my family horribly while always just minding my/our own business.

And they would always let us know what the problem was with us: Cause we were "n*ggers" and they couldn't have us around. I've mostly received racial slurs from Whites, like here on KMC, due to having an African background. Life's been horrible for me with Whites but everything ele's in life, with everyone else, has been good.

I remember one time when our home was attacked and my sister called the police and i had to tell her to say we're White so they'd come faster than normal. They did but when they came they were highly upset and told us that they won't fill out a report despite the damage and with the White offenders across the street, and they left. And the cops were White too. I felt guilty for lying but my family was under attack and we needed assistance.

So i just don't go near Whites anymore. I completely stay away from them, as i have tons of friends and not one White one. Crazy, hu. Like i already told myself that in the future, when I do buy a family house, it can't be in an all White neighborhood. No way. I'd fear for the safety of my family, my children, and i'd hate for my family to go through what me and my family unnecessarily went though with Whites for years and years. I'd definitely want to move to a racially diverse town or street with my new family. And yea not all Whites are like that but i haven't had any luck so I'm not taking any chances.

I'm going to call BS on that story. Why? Because 911 operators never ask for your race when you call for assistance. Why? Because RACE DOESNT MATTER.

And honestly, who do you think would fare better: a black kid in an all-white town, or a white kid in an all-minority town?

My school is about, oh, I'd say 97% white. I can count the number of black students on one hand, in a school of over 2000 students. Do they ever get ridiculed or made fun, or physically abused for being black? Nope. In fact, they're all quite successful, both socially and in terms of education.

I've been in the movies in the area and had things thrown at me by a few black kids, as they called me white boy and other pretty obvious racial terms. What do you think would happen if I threw candy at a black kid calling him racial names? Al Sharpton would be at my door and I'd be on television apologizing for being a racist bigot.

Racism goes both ways, Fist. You just have yet to realize it.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I thought you were smarter than that. (Well, not really). So you actually discussed your point to try to solely get me angry and/or offend me instead of debating a point and successfully concluding it. How smart. *snatches $10*

Kids.

Not quite, I was just trying to help you out, since you tend to end every single sentence with some form of disguised profanity that would be much better off pure rather than intentionally misspelled.

It's okay, though, we all know how you run away from debates, often circling around questions or responding with questions of your own because you can't honestly answer them without sounding like a tool.

EDIT: Oh, and you certainly use the word "gay" pretty freely in a derogitory manner. I thought you accepted people? But hey, you'll just ignore this part of my post, like you do any time anyone actually debates with you or calls you out.

Originally posted by J-Beowulf
I'm going to call BS on that story. Why? Because 911 operators never ask for your race when you call for assistance. Why? Because RACE DOESNT MATTER.

And honestly, who do you think would fare better: a black kid in an all-white town, or a white kid in an all-minority town?

My school is about, oh, I'd say 97% white. I can count the number of black students on one hand, in a school of over 2000 students. Do they ever get ridiculed or made fun, or physically abused for being black? Nope. In fact, they're all quite successful, both socially and in terms of education.

Racism goes both ways, Fist. You just have yet to realize it.

It's not bull. We've noticed when my family did call the police they'd take forever come, we didn't know why but when we started saying things like "Hurry, My nephew will be the White guy waving you down." or "Someone been badly injured, he's a White male" etc...., we've noticed how much faster they'd come.

And a Black person in an all White town would get his crushed in along with his kids. Especially in the south with the KKK.

And that thing with your school, you're only basing that off of what you've seen. What about undocumented happenings not witnessed by you.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
It's not bull. We've noticed when my family did call the police they'd take forever come, we didn't know why but when we started saying things like "Hurry, My nephew will be the White guy waving you down." or "Someone been badly injured, he's a White male" etc...., we've noticed how much faster they'd come.

And a Black person in an all White town would get his crushed in along with his kids. Especially in the south with the KKK.

And that thing with your school, you're only basing that off of what you've seen. What about undocumented happenings not witnessed by you.

Ha, you must not have gone to High School. Things don't just happen, especially things as serious as racism and other things like that, without the general population knowing.

And what I've seen is these black students blending in just fine in school; making friends, telling jokes, messing around with us whiteys, all that. No one criticizes them for it, trust me. I'm personal friends with a few of them.

And what about a white guy and his family is South Compton, or Detroit? There are overly racist areas on both sides, for sure.

Originally posted by J-Beowulf
Not quite, I was just trying to help you out, since you tend to end every single sentence with some form of disguised profanity that would be much better off pure rather than intentionally misspelled.

It's okay, though, we all know how you run away from debates, often circling around questions or responding with questions of your own because you can't honestly answer them without sounding like a tool.

EDIT: Oh, and you certainly use the word "gay" pretty freely in a derogitory manner. I thought you accepted people? But hey, you'll just ignore this part of my post, like you do any time anyone actually debates with you or calls you out.

Let me prove you wrong, yet again. Let's see your question was...."I thought you accepted people?" ...I ...is that even a question. Or what you think or what.

(sighs) See, that's what happens when you start thinking, Biwulf when i clearly told you not to.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Let me prove you wrong, yet again. Let's see your question was...."I thought you accepted people?" ...I ...is that even a question. Or what you think or what.

(sighs) See, that's what happens when you start thinking, Biwulf when i clearly told you not to.

I type as I would speak, and it sounds sort of like a question when I say it.

Right after you criticize me for checking your spelling and grammar. HIP-OH-CRIT. And it doesn't bother me that you spell my tag "Biwulf," not sure what you're trying to do there.

Oh, and you absolutely didged the statement--question thing with your own question. How... predictable.

Originally posted by J-Beowulf
Ha, you must not have gone to High School. Things don't just happen, especially things as serious as racism and other things like that, without the general population knowing.

And what I've seen is these black students blending in just fine in school; making friends, telling jokes, messing around with us whiteys, all that. No one criticizes them for it, trust me. I'm personal friends with a few of them.

And what about a white guy and his family is South Compton, or Detroit? There are overly racist areas on both sides, for sure.

Racism could be hidden and indirect, if you didn't know. Like it mostly is now. Just because people aren't openly racists doesn't mean they have don't racism in their hearts.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Racism could be hidden and indirect, if you didn't know. Like it mostly is now. Just because people aren't openly racists doesn't mean they have don't racism in their hearts.

Ok? So basically what you're saying is you think whites are racist... but that it's "in their hearts"? So it's completely speculation?

Alrighty. That explains everything.

"But, they have racism in their hearts! Evil whitey."

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I read this article on wikipedia and found it informative. The reason for posting this piece is to show some of the Whites on here that White racism is harmfully illogical and the most prevalent and that racism does indeed exist as alot of Whites on here have denied; meaning that racism doesn't exist anymore. But more importantly the goal is to try to reevaluate perspectives and peoples attitudes for the better as I desperately wish for unity amongst the races in the United States. Now i know this'll come with a consequence as I'm sure I'll be flamed for this resulting in being insulted to an extreme degree which will then cause some of the Whites on here to either go off topic and/or justify racism by not simply acknowledging it. So, here we go.

Racism and Whiteness

Although all nations have had notions of national superiority at one time or the other, white people (specifically, early modern Europeans) developed this notion to "unprecedented" levels as an intrinsic element of the process of colonisation and imperialism. This resulted in the notion of superiority based on race (a euphemism for skin color). This ideology was then used as "justification" for their subjugation of non-white people across the world. Essentially, white people constructed a hierarchy based on 'race', with whites at the top. This created a de-facto global class system based on skin color - with white being seen as the standard against which all others were judged. This folksonomy produced real social effects such as white privilege for whites and colorism between non-whites, with many non-whites competing for proximity to "whiteness" by bleaching their skin (see skin whitening) and adopting a variety of white cultural practices in the form of manners, dress, speech, cultural tastes and Eurocentric aesthetics.

Although laws have been introduced in most countries worldwide, to dismantle this folksonomy, its tenets appear to be still deeply ingrained in many societies (see postcolonialism, colonial mentality and skin whitening). In many ways, this "mental subjugation" (or "internalised orientalism"😉 is the most harrowing aspect of racism, as it is not "directly observable", and therefore difficult to recognize, let alone ameliorate. Whole swathes of nonwhite people have absorbed, by means of cultural osmosis (or memes), subconscious feelings of inferiority, and a poor self image either by way of their direct contact with white people (through enslavement, assimilationist immigration policies, or practices of ethnic cleansing - see Indigenous peoples of the Americas, Indigenous Australians) or through indoctrination (i.e. colonisation).

Generally, the closer an individual's skin color approximates to "whiteness" on the "race hierarchy" established by Europeans, the more the "psychological wages of whiteness" accrue. This has led to wide scale skin whitening in many parts of the world where indigenous peoples have been exposed to racist ideology (either overtly or covertly) via one of the aforementioned events (i.e. subjugation of one sort or the other by white people). Low self image often leads to depression and sometimes internalized oppression, but can also be the cause of intense resentment of a former "oppressor" by a former "oppressee" and may sometimes lead to a "revenge mentality" by those who feel aggrieved or victimised as a result of (real or perceived) ongoing racism in their society/community.

It is impossible to estimate (i.e. put a monetary/societal value) on how much worse off we are (either as a society or globally, as humans), as a result of millions of people worldwide being unable to achieve their full potential, as a result of lowered self image and actual discrimination resulting directly or indirectly from racism. Some white people on the other hand, also, feel a sense of guilt (see white guilt) for the global marginalisation of non-white people (in favour of white people) that had its genesis in racist ideology (and continues to be perpetuated by racism), whilst other white people feel they are "under siege" as a result of historic events that they were "not personally responsible for" (although white people as a whole, continue to benefit from a world system that evolved from a series of historical events that can be directly linked to racism - and now manifest itself in "economic racism" - see neocolonialism and dependency theory)

And we keep telling you it's just as bad as you being racist against blacks. Man, I know I shouldn't say this but, I would just love for the KKK to come by your house.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
If i actually spell out the words you'd get nothing but asterisks, idiot. And tool, lol...wtf? How gay. I hate that word. "Tool".

"You're such a tool, dude"! Gay.

You stop thinking too. And stick to the topic and stop focusing on misspelled and derogatory terms for penises. As hard as that might be for you. Now check my spelling, Biwulf.

And "tool," LOL . . . WTF? How N I G G E R I S H. I hate that word; tool.

"You're such a tool, dude!" N I G G E R.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Since i was a kid most Whites I've confronted in my life have judged me based on my skin color and treated me and my family horribly while always just minding my/our own business.

And they would always let us know what the problem was with us: Cause we were "n*ggers" and they couldn't have us around. I've mostly received racial slurs from Whites, like here on KMC, due to having an African background. Life's been horrible for me with Whites but everything ele's in life, with everyone else, has been good.

I remember one time when our home was attacked and my sister called the police and i had to tell her to say we're White so they'd come faster than normal. They did but when they came they were highly upset and told us that they won't fill out a report despite the damage and with the White offenders across the street, and they left. And the cops were White too. I felt guilty for lying but my family was under attack and we needed assistance.

So i just don't go near Whites anymore. I completely stay away from them, as i have tons of friends and not one White one. Crazy, hu. Like i already told myself that in the future, when I do buy a family house, it can't be in an all White neighborhood. No way. I'd fear for the safety of my family, my children, and i'd hate for my family to go through what me and my family unnecessarily went though with Whites for years and years. I'd definitely want to move to a racially diverse town or street with my new family. And yea not all Whites are like that but i haven't had any luck so I'm not taking any chances.

So becuase of how you were treated by a small group of white people you think they are all that way and "don't go near whites" anymore?

That is RACISM..WHY DONT YOU REALIZE THAT YOU STUPID GORILLA?!

It's people like you that cause racism..you suck and I hope you die a violent death and don't have any children to carry on your racism.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Since i was a kid most Whites I've confronted in my life have judged me based on my skin color and treated me and my family horribly while always just minding my/our own business.

And they would always let us know what the problem was with us: Cause we were "n*ggers" and they couldn't have us around. I've mostly received racial slurs from Whites, like here on KMC, due to having an African background. Life's been horrible for me with Whites but everything ele's in life, with everyone else, has been good.

I remember one time when our home was attacked and my sister called the police and i had to tell her to say we're White so they'd come faster than normal. They did but when they came they were highly upset and told us that they won't fill out a report despite the damage and with the White offenders across the street, and they left. And the cops were White too. I felt guilty for lying but my family was under attack and we needed assistance.

So i just don't go near Whites anymore. I completely stay away from them, as i have tons of friends and not one White one. Crazy, hu. Like i already told myself that in the future, when I do buy a family house, it can't be in an all White neighborhood. No way. I'd fear for the safety of my family, my children, and i'd hate for my family to go through what me and my family unnecessarily went though with Whites for years and years. I'd definitely want to move to a racially diverse town or street with my new family. And yea not all Whites are like that but i haven't had any luck so I'm not taking any chances.

Where/when did this happen? Alabama circa 1920? Because I smell shit.

Didn't you gleefully tell us a story about the one "White kid" in your school; how he was beaten severely for being "White"? Guess racism and violence goes both ways, huh?

I loved your "So i just don't go near Whites anymore. I completely stay away from them..." Beware the "Whites"... Muahahahaha.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
And "tool," LOL . . . WTF? How N I G G E R I S H. I hate that word; tool.

"You're such a tool, dude!" N I G G E R.

he's not going to get what you did there. just fyi

Originally posted by Schecter
he's not going to get what you did there. just fyi

Is that because he is a tool or because he is a . . . ?

Originally posted by lord xyz
And we keep telling you it's just as bad as you being racist against blacks whites. Man, I know I shouldn't say this but, I would just love for the KKK to come by your house.
That's embarrasing. 😮

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Is that because he is a tool or because he is a . . . ?

Retard?

Yes.

(As an aside, you should have said N I G G E R-LIKE, as "n-i-g-g-e-r-ish" is an adjective from "niggard," which refers to a stingy person.)

Originally posted by lord xyz
That's embarrasing. 😮

you're embarrasing

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
while always just minding my/our own business.
This I highly doubt. Then again, I haven't grown up in a racist background, much like Massachusettes where you are from. Now if you were from Louisiana or somewhere around there then I would understand, but Massachusettes?