Racism

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
What is this evil you speak of?

Committed by who?

(Note to self, on KMC attempted explanations=Justification)

You cannot hold one person of a given skin color responsible for the actions of another of the same skin color. Not even chronologically.

You can't be held accountable for either your ancestors or another person you're not related to. So why should ANYONE else?

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
What is this evil you speak of?

Committed by who?

(Note to self, on KMC attempted explanations=Justification)

the evil im referring to: hatred/mistreatment/abuse/etc on another person because of their skin color.

i explained the rest on "partial justification". if you cant comprehend that, then its hardly my probem

Originally posted by Creshosk
Other than people expecting him to, like how you said that he needed to pay?

If reparation was EVER to happen it would be the US Gov. That writes the check. "You" as in white people. Not HIM specifically. But like I said, since he feels so strongly about it, maybe more people working toward the Goal of reparations will get us outta here that much sooner. "You" brought us here to work, pay us so we can leave.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Or maybe its a shit or get off the pot sort of thing. Sit there bitching all you want, its not going to change a damned thing. So either do something about it or leave so you don't have to deal with it. Simply complaining about something won't help anyone any.

Oh no. You got it all ****ed up. I'm doing plenty to get my people outta here.

2010 will prove me right or dead.

Originally posted by Creshosk
So has everyone else. What are you doing? you're typing on a computer. You know how many people's hard work you're benefiting from? Each individual component, electricity and the complete package. Each of the people that helped with one of the steps of the invention of the device. YOU are benefiting from their hard work. So either you can stop using anything that has to do with their hard work yourself, or you can continue to be a hypocrite and benefit from other peoples work while bitching aobut other people doing the same.

FOOL.

Those people were paid something.

Not separated at childhood from their families, soled, whipped, worked, and forced to breed, in an alien land.

With the support of the Government.

Show me a Tech who even REMOTELY resembles my ancestors in their bondage.

Originally posted by Creshosk
As are you. See above. It has nothing to do with him being white. It has everything to do with him coming after. White people existed before the hard work, they certainly didn't benefit from it. It has nothing to do with being white, racist.

Pay attention folks. Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

Originally posted by Creshosk
No, you aren't you grand idiot.

WAAAAA! WHAAAA!

Boo freaking hoo, you big cry baby. I didn't own a slave, none of my family did. Why should I be held accountable for actions not my own?

I'm tempted to ask, how old are you?

First we don't have a case. Then our case doesn't apply to you. Next we're all racist "Idiots" because YOUR family didn't own slaves. Finally, White people are great, and I really need to get over this "Black" thing.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Hell, why don't we lock you up for a rape that occured in Japan, that you were'nt responsible for?

What the **** does that have to do with what we're talking about.
how does that EVEN apply?

Originally posted by Creshosk
So what you're saying is that we should go back to white people enslaving black people?

Is everybody else seeing this cracktastic bull shit or is it just me?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Dumbass.

Back atcha crebitch

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
If reparation was EVER to happen it would be the US Gov. That writes the check. "You" as in white people. Not HIM specifically. But like I said, since he feels so strongly about it, maybe more people working toward the Goal of reparations will get us outta here that much sooner. "You" brought us here to work, pay us so we can leave.

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
Oh no. You got it all ****ed up. I'm doing plenty to get my people outta here.

2010 will prove me right or dead.

FOOL.

Those people were paid something.

Not separated at childhood from their families, soled, whipped, worked, and forced to breed, in an alien land.

With the support of the Government.

Show me a Tech who even REMOTELY resembles my ancestors in their bondage.

The "techies" in the analogy represnt your enslaved ancestors. You, genius, are beenfiting form their enslavment, ESPECIALLY with you being paid for what happened to them.

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
Pay attention folks. Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
I'm tempted to ask, how old are you?

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
First we don't have a case. Then our case doesn't apply to you. Next we're all racist "Idiots" because YOUR family didn't own slaves. Finally, White people are great, and I really need to get over this "Black" thing.

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
What the **** does that have to do with what we're talking about.
how does that EVEN apply?

How about if we pay you compensation for the rape victim having been raped?

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
Is everybody else seeing this cracktastic bull shit or is it just me?

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
Back atcha crebitch

Originally posted by Creshosk
Was it the current government that currently enslaved you? How does reperations undo what was done?

Because there still benefiting from stuff that happened in the past. 😐

The American Indians got compensation we shouldnt?

BlueDRacist..do you believe reperations should be paid from white people to all black people?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Because there still benefiting from stuff that happened in the past. 😐

The American Indians got compensation we shouldnt?

no you shouldnt.

Originally posted by KidRock
BlueDRacist..do you believe reperations should be paid from white people to all black people?

no you shouldnt.

🤨 American indians shouldnt have got compensation?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Because there still benefiting from stuff that happened in the past. 😐

The American Indians got compensation we shouldnt?

Originally posted by Alfheim
🤨 American indians shouldnt have got compensation?

No? You can benefit from modern society? So you're just a greedy bastard who wants free money for things he didn't do?

Originally posted by Alfheim
🤨 American indians shouldnt have got compensation?

Go back and learn some basic grammar before you post. I was saying that blacks should not get reparations or compensation.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Were you personally enslaved? And nice red herring.

Relatives were. 😐

Originally posted by Creshosk
there is a bit of a difference, are you bieng forced to live ona reservation?

Is that it? What about the pyshcological trauma of being persecuted in your own land? The American Indians are still suffering from stuff that happened years ago.

Originally posted by Creshosk

No? You can benefit from modern society? So you're just a greedy bastard who wants free money for things he didn't do?

I dont. I just want an opology.

Originally posted by KidRock
Go back and learn some basic grammar before you post. I was saying that blacks should not get reparations or compensation.

I know you did, but as far as im concerned its a similar circumstance.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Relatives were. 😐

Originally posted by Alfheim
Is that it? What about the pyshcological trauma of being persecuted in your own land?

Originally posted by Alfheim
The American Indians are still suffering from stuff that happened years ago.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I dont. I just want an opology.

The people who did the enslaving should have been the ones to apologize, it was their actions.

It should be to those who were enslaved, it happened to them.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Did the current governement or anyone on it, or any tax payers alive today enslave them?

No but they are still benefitting from things that their ancestors done in the past. If your grandfather stole from a group of people and those people were still suffering wouldnt you feel guilty about having his money?

Their are companies in Britain and America that benefited from slavery, so you're telling me they should just keep the money?

Originally posted by Creshosk

That's everyone. Were you a kid who interacted with other kids? Guess what? So was I, guess what? I was teased and called names by the other kids.

Er its a bit more compliacted than that, its not just the pyschological damage but people are still being opppressed. For example im sure the unfair trade with third world isnt just about money.

Originally posted by Creshosk

then I'd like to hear them present their case.

Dear oh dear oh dear.

Originally posted by Creshosk

Did I enslave you? No? Then I'm not apologizing to you for something I didn't do.

Pay attenttion I didnt say you should apologise.

Originally posted by Creshosk

Were you personally enslaved? No? Then why should you get an apology?

I already explained.

Originally posted by Creshosk

The people who did the enslaving should have been the ones to apologize, it was their actions.

It should be to those who were enslaved, it happened to them.

I already explained.

Originally posted by Alfheim
No but they are still benefitting from things that their ancestors done in the past. If your grandfather stole from a group of people and those people were still suffering wouldnt you feel guilty about having his money?

Not at all. I didn't steal the money.

Originally posted by KidRock
Not at all. I didn't steal the money.

Ok but does that money belong to you? Oh I get it just because you didnt steal the money means its yours?

No you didnt steal it but you should still give it back.

Originally posted by Alfheim
No but they are still benefitting from things that their ancestors done in the past.

Originally posted by Alfheim
If your grandfather stole from a group of people and those people were still suffering wouldnt you feel guilty about having his money?

For one thing my grandfather wouldn't steal form people. (My family weren't slave owners)

Originally posted by Alfheim
Their are companies in Britain and America that benefited from slavery, so you're telling me they should just keep the money?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Er its a bit more compliacted than that, its not just the pyschological damage but people are still being opppressed.

Originally posted by Alfheim
For example im sure the unfair trade with third world isnt just about money.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Dear oh dear oh dear.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Pay attenttion I didnt say you should apologise.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I already explained.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I already explained.

By the way, My parents are mormon

"With 12,000 men, women, and children driven out of Missouri by mobs and militias in the most desperate conditions - having been offered no protection by the law - and their beloved leaders jailed for treason, the Saints were in difficult circumstances indeed. Further still, the state ordered that some Mormon property would be used to benefit settlers in Daviess county and fined the Church $200,000 - a huge sum - to pay the state for the trouble of driving out the Mormons. "

Sounds like I should get compensation. And my kids, and their kids, and their kids after that. and so on and so forth. Free money for me and my family for the rest of eternity, even though I wasn't driven out of missouri nor was I killed back then.

The government can pay the tab. But hey since you're a taxpayer, its really your money. nim

Unless you're a tax dodger, which is a federal felony.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok but does that money belong to you? Oh I get it just because you didnt steal the money means its yours?

No you didnt steal it but you should still give it back.

I mean...lets be fair here. Negros should be thankful that we chose to free them...we could have just continued and no one would have given a ****.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I mean...lets be fair here. Negros should be thankful that we chose to free them...we could have just continued and no one would have given a ****.

Ah, the Germans..always a compassionate bunch.