Racism

Originally posted by Creshosk
So are you.

Nope. Would you? You're benefiting from what happened to your ancestors.

How thats. At the end of the day individuals should not pay, but instuitions that benefited from oppressiion.

Originally posted by Creshosk

For one thing my grandfather wouldn't steal form people. (My family weren't slave owners)

Not even the bloody point, is it?

Originally posted by Creshosk

Which ones?

I cant remember off the top of my head. Im pretty sure there are some but I cant be assed to go and get the info again. Considering that even if they did benefit from slavery you still dont think they should do anything its not worth my while getting the info.

Originally posted by Creshosk

Are you?

Yeah I am sligthly screwed up, but not in a material sense. Thats why I would just want an opology.

Originally posted by Creshosk

Actually yeah it is. cheap labor means the same products produced at lower cost.. hence more money. Rich people don't care who they exploit.

Right so it has NOTHING to do with race.

Originally posted by Creshosk

Well? Anything from you is hearsay, and hearsay is not admisible in court.

Im not going over that.

Originally posted by Creshosk

"I dont. I just want an opology."

Please try not to take what people say out of context, serioulsy....im not going to explain myself again.

Originally posted by Creshosk

The answer was no you weren't.

No, you didn't.

Not going over this again either.

Originally posted by Creshosk

"With 12,000 men, women, and children driven out of Missouri by mobs and militias in the most desperate conditions - having been offered no protection by the law - and their beloved leaders jailed for treason, the Saints were in difficult circumstances indeed. Further still, the state ordered that some Mormon property would be used to benefit settlers in Daviess county and fined the Church $200,000 - a huge sum - to pay the state for the trouble of driving out the Mormons. "

Sounds like I should get compensation. And my kids, and their kids, and their kids after that. and so on and so forth. Free money for me and my family for the rest of eternity, even though I wasn't driven out of missouri nor was I killed back then.

The government can pay the tab. But hey since you're a taxpayer, its really your money. nim

Unless you're a tax dodger, which is a federal felony.

If you're still suffering from what happened and they are still benefiting, yeah you should. What happened to American Indians and Black people was a 100 times worse.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Why? the people his grandfather stole it from are long since dead.

The relatives of the people he stole from are still alive and still suffering.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I mean...lets be fair here. Negros should be thankful that we chose to free them...we could have just continued and no one would have given a ****.

🙄 Well i guess if everybody was polite it would be a boring world. Hell the Norse gods have to put up with LOki. Everybodies different I guess.

Originally posted by Creshosk

By the way, My parents are mormon

"With 12,000 men, women, and children driven out of Missouri by mobs and militias in the most desperate conditions - having been offered no protection by the law - and their beloved leaders jailed for treason, the Saints were in difficult circumstances indeed. Further still, the state ordered that some Mormon property would be used to benefit settlers in Daviess county and fined the Church $200,000 - a huge sum - to pay the state for the trouble of driving out the Mormons. "

Sounds like I should get compensation. And my kids, and their kids, and their kids after that. and so on and so forth. Free money for me and my family for the rest of eternity,
nim

Unless you're a tax dodger, which is a federal felony.

Please don't compare 12,000 mean women and children, $200,000 and jail for almost half a millennia of racist U.S. oppression, millions of African American Slaves and more than a trillion (with a T) dollars worth of blood money still being enjoyed by the privileged majority, cause it makes you looks like an dumbass.

You and your ascendants should get free money for the rest of eternity? Over 200 grand? And you're bitching about returning rightful, centuries old money back into the hands who worked for it with sweat and blood? Money that's still exchanging hands till this day amongst Whites? Fcuk outta here..

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
What do you mean "Might Have"?

Because not everyone "White person" in America who's lineage stretches back to the slave-era was a slave owner, pro-slavery or a racist. You seem to think otherwise.

i dont owe a ****ing thing to black people. not a red cent.
how do you like them apples?

i work for everything i get and some internet cvnt's going to tell me i stole it from 200 year-dead slaves.

**** you

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Please don't compare 12,000 mean women and children, $200,000 and jail for almost half a millennia of racist U.S. oppression, millions of African American Slaves and more than a trillion (with a T) dollars worth of blood money still being enjoyed by the privileged majority, cause it makes you looks like an dumbass.

You and your ascendants should get free money for the rest of eternity? Over 200 grand? And you're bitching about returning rightful, centuries old money back into the hands who worked for it with sweat and blood? Money that's still exchanging hands till this day amongst Whites? Fcuk outta here..

Funny coming from a guy who's "Old Domican Money"... You know Hispaniola was a huge slave port, there's a good chance your "old money" is slave-money, as many times, old money comes from the exploitation of others.

There's a distinct possibility, that you're an "Uncle Tom".

Originally posted by Schecter
i dont owe a ****ing thing to black people. not a red cent.
how do you like them apples?

i work for everything i get and some internet cvnt's going to tell me i stole it from 200 year-dead slaves.

**** you

B-b-but, your skin is "White", racist!

Originally posted by Alfheim
How thats. At the end of the day individuals should not pay, but instuitions that benefited from oppressiion.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Not even the bloody point, is it?

Gradfather who stole = slave owning ancestor

Or is that the vital flaw in your analgoy thus why its a false analogy fallacy?

Originally posted by Alfheim
I cant remember off the top of my head. Im pretty sure there are some but I cant be assed to go and get the info again.

Come on pal, burden of proof is on your shoulders.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Considering that even if they did benefit from slavery you still dont think they should do anything its not worth my while getting the info.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah I am sligthly screwed up, but not in a material sense. Thats why I would just want an opology.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Right so it has NOTHING to do with race.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Im not going over that.quote] Cause you can't. Its the truth. Hearsay is inadmissible in court.

[QUOTE=9108123]Originally posted by Alfheim
Please try not to take what people say out of context, serioulsy....im not going to explain myself again.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Not going over this again either.

Originally posted by Alfheim
If you're still suffering from what happened and they are still benefiting, yeah you should. What happened to American Indians and Black people was a 100 times worse.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Please don't compare 12,000 mean women and children, $200,000 and jail for almost half a millennia of racist U.S. oppression, millions of African American Slaves and more than a trillion (with a T) dollars worth of blood money still being enjoyed by the privileged majority, cause it makes you looks like an dumbass.

You and your ascendants should get free money for the rest of eternity? Over 200 grand? And you're bitching about returning rightful, centuries old money back into the hands who worked for it with sweat and blood? Money that's still exchanging hands till this day amongst Whites? Fcuk outta here..

Not too hot on picking up sarcasm are we?

But no, lets go with it.

If my ancestors suffering isn't justification for having my acendents payed back why should yours?

Originally posted by Robtard
Funny coming from a guy who's "Old Domican Money"... You know Hispaniola was a huge slave port, there's a good chance your "old money" is slave-money, as many times, old money comes from the exploitation of others.

My descendants became free farmers whom worked their bones off until they were able to buy their own small piece of land with some animals and tools, the grew a bit, offered employment and created prosperity in that way and into what it is now. Not by raping children, separating families and castrating and hanging men of trees?

They didn't tell people can't come into have a hot meal at their house and restaurants because they looked different like Whites did/do. So keep wondering.

Originally posted by Schecter
i dont owe a ****ing thing to black people. not a red cent.
how do you like them apples?

i work for everything i get and some internet cvnt's going to tell me i stole it from 200 year-dead slaves.

**** you

But you didn't.

Nuff said.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
offered employment

correcton: "purchased employees"

Originally posted by JacopeX
Your ancestors, yes.

But you didn't.

Nuff said.

so since i dont get money handed to me by my ancestors or even parents, and have worked for everything i have, i dont owe a ****ing dime.

if they wanna dig up my great great great great gandfather and pry off his wedding ring and pawn it off, go for it. get whats due. i dont give a shit. i, however dont owe a dime.

'nuff said'

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
My descendants became free farmers whom worked their bones off until they were able to buy their own small piece of land with some animals and tools, the grew a bit, offered employment and created prosperity in that way and into what it is now. Not by raping children, separating families and castrating and hanging men of trees?

They didn't tell people can't come into have a hot meal at their house and restaurants because they looked different like Whites did/do. So keep wondering.

So, if your ancestors weren't racist against "White people" (like you are), and they actually went through the hell of slavery/oppression, why are you racist and hateful against "White people"?

Originally posted by Schecter
correcton: "purchased employees"

That right..Well, since you were there and have documented evidence, physical proof like I do.

Purchasing employees was the "White man" way of doing it. See we actually helped people, while your kind raped and murdered countless African American infants in barns back throughout the 16th 17th 18th and 19th century in the U.S. (a.k.a. the land of the free)

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
That right..Well, since you were there and have documented evidence, physical proof like I do.

Purchasing employees was the "White man" way of doing it. See we actually helped people, while your kind raped and murdered countless African American infants in barns back throughout the 16th 17th 18th and 19th century in the U.S. (a.k.a. the land of the free)

Yea, like "Blacks" never dealt in slavery... get off your high horse.

Now they're raping infants? LOL

Originally posted by Robtard
So, if your ancestors weren't racist against "White people" (like you are), and they actually went through the hell of slavery/oppression, why are you racist and hateful against "White people"?

Oh, right, it only applies to white people.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
That right..Well, since you were there and have documented evidence, physical proof like I do.

i think you're lying through your teeth. where is this documented evidence? oh thats right, it doesnt exist and you're making it all up.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Purchasing employees was the "White man" way of doing it. See we actually helped people, while your kind raped and murdered countless African American infants in barns back throughout the 16th 17th 18th and 19th century in the U.S. (a.k.a. the land of the free)

my kind? what a racist whore you are.
go choke on a clown shoe and die

Originally posted by Schecter
i think you're lying through your teeth. where is this documented evidence? oh thats right, it doesnt exist and you're making it all up.

my kind? what a racist whore you arego choke on a clown shoe and die

That's the lovely double standard.. if you ever were to say "his kind", that would be undeniable proof that you were a racist.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
...your kind...

...and so young too. so much for the "old racists will die out soon and make the world a better place" theory.

sickening.