Racism

Originally posted by Creshosk
What a sweeping generalization that is.. You find one and then say they all do that.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Strawman arguments are better? Sweeping generalizations a sham distinctions are better than using logic? Nice.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Its really a simplification that's the problem. Racism is seen to be a negative thing saying that another race is inherently racist is indirectly proclaiming your racce to be better because it is not.

That's why its a sham distinction.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Racism is a type of prejudice is it not?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Not completely however.

Originally posted by Creshosk
So you didn't say in the for mof a rhetorical question that I said something I didn't say?

Originally posted by Creshosk
""So for you stereotype = prejudice = racism? 😆"

Oh wait, yes you did.
Oh look, a strawman to defend a strawman. Keep it up and soon you'll have an army keeping you from having to adress my points. You'll have your own strawman army to fight so you can just ignore me. shrug

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Not true. Again, to paraprase, racism is the belief that ones race is superior to another.

That Blacks think all Whites are racist is not racist.

Not true, you monkey.

Racism: An attitude, action or institutional structure, which subordinates a person or group because of their color. Racism involves having the power to carry out systematic discriminatory practices.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&start=6&oi=define&q=http://www.gecdf.com/diversity/glossary.html&usg=AFQjCNFdwDq2xwAdMBSU841WE2xY0nRjXg

Here is another: # or racialism is a form of discrimination based on race, especially the belief that one race is superior to another. Racism may be expressed individually and consciously, through explicit thoughts, feelings, or acts, or socially and unconsciously, through institutions that promote inequality between races.

As you can see..it says ESPECIALLY the belief..not the ONLY belief.

Blacks believing all whites are racist would make all black people racist as well.An attitude, action or institutional structure, which subordinates a person or group because of their color.

Now I know you are going to come back with a "well, no blah blah I am a racist blah blah"

But facts are facts..you're wrong.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
Already posted the guidelines that your source uses to add definitions to its book, so yes my point is valid.

Say what? Look above

Again, what?

Never said it wasn't, and your point?

Never said it was and your point?

What?

Sorry but that is not an example of a Strawman or at least what I was taught in school, that would be more sarcasm instead 😉

Fact is the langauge isn't a dead one.So like it or not it adapts and other useages become correct.

I'm not sure why you're so adamantly defending racism by saying an example of it is not. But I'm sure you have your own twisted reasons.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Pssh, for someone who didn't want to get into a semantic debate you sure hopped on this quickly.

Fact is the langauge isn't a dead one.So like it or not it adapts and other useages become correct.

I'm not sure why you're so adamantly defending racism by saying an example of it is not. But I'm sure you have your own twisted reasons.

Now who is trying to change the subject, and exactly how am I trying to defend racism?

I'm not getting into the semantic of the word but that your source and proof for the definition of the word is not a solid source which I have done. Yes I know it is not a dead language, so what is your point? If everyone says it wrong, does that now make it right?

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
😆

Now who is trying to change the subject, and exactly how am I trying to defend racism?

I'm not getting into the semantic of the word but that your source and proof for the definition of the word is not a solid source which I have done. Yes I know it is not a dead language, so what is your point? If everyone says it wrong, does that now make it right?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Tell me, what does the word gay mean?

So why didn't you answer my question, you accused me of using Strawman logic to avoid questions and you go and answer a question with a question? 😕

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
Originally it meant happy, glad and so forth. This is a perfect example of a word that because of popular use has changed from the original meaning to something different.

So why didn't you answer my question, you accused me of using Strawman logic to avoid questions and you go and answer a question with a question? 😕

Next up the way we speak the English language today is a complete evolution from the way it used to be spoken.

Even your speech is an indication of useage of adapted words rather than simply useage and grammaar and spelling of how they used to be. So it's a nice double standard you've got going for yourself. Its okay for you to use the modern langauge and be correct, but if other people use the modern langauge ... they're not? 😕

I used strawman logic to avoid answering questions?

S'funny, I pointed out that you had used a strawman by exagerating my claims. Then you said that t was just sarcasm. Now you're saying I did it to avoid answering the question? So you wanted me to answer sarcasm?

Originally posted by Creshosk
I love this question:
Do you even know what a rhetorical question is?

Next up the way we speak the English language today is a complete evolution from the way it used to be spoken.

Even your speech is an indication of useage of adapted words rather than simply useage and grammaar and spelling of how they used to be. So it's a nice double standard you've got going for yourself. Its okay for you to use the modern langauge and be correct, but if other people use the modern langauge ... they're not? 😕

I used strawman logic to avoid answering questions?

S'funny, I pointed out that you had used a strawman by exagerating my claims. Then you said that t was just sarcasm. Now you're saying I did it to avoid answering the question? So you wanted me to answer sarcasm?

Yes the English language does evolve, I never said that and many times stated that it does, however when someone implies that someone is racist it is considered worse than being called prejudice in the eyes of the common person because it implies that the one believes that the other is superior.

Well I can see this is going no where and you keep flopping around on your posts and you seem to can't understand what I'm saying so I will end it here. Nice talking with you and have a good day.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
Well for one it wasn't a rhetorical question because it actually has an answer such as the one I gave.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
As for the question I asked you, obviously you didn't read my post. The question was is how I am defending racism as you claimed that I was with my "twisted reasons".

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
Also I didn't say that you used Strawman logic, again not reading the post but that you accused me of it please try and keep it straight.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
Your example that you keep trying to say is Strawman is not even that so let it go.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
Yes the English language does evolve, I never said that and many times stated that it does, however when someone implies that someone is racist it is considered worse than being called prejudice in the eyes of the common person because it implies that the one believes that the other is superior.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
Well I can see this is going no where and you keep flopping around on your posts and you seem to can't understand what I'm saying so I will end it here. Nice talking with you and have a good day.

Originally posted by Creshosk
It was a statement phrased as a question that the answer wasn't expecting vbecause it was merely point out the existence of the word itself.

By making it so you can't point out racism where racism is.

Sorry, misread that part.

But you were exagerating my claims. Because I did not claim that they were the same thing.

Way to set up an argument and then disprove it in a single self contradictory run-on sentence.

Of course I can't understand what you're saying if you're going to keep contradicting yourself.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
About what I expected for your response.

Though you said you didn't want to get into a semantic debate after starting one and then after saying that you proceed to get into it anyway.

So not really surprising that you go back on what you say frequently.

Originally posted by Creshosk
And as expected you post after announcing you were leaving.

Though you said you didn't want to get into a semantic debate after starting one and then after saying that you proceed to get into it anyway.

So not really surprising that you go back on what you say frequently.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
I'm not, just posting that is what I expected you to say. I said that I'm done debating with you on the topic of racism which I have, you just want to keep needling me but I expect that from you. 😉

Originally posted by Creshosk
Hmm... guess I did misinterpret the "have a nice day as leaving." Sorry about that bit.

tell me if this is racist. I work in the hotel biz, and it is midnight here. well, we have a large group of black people staying here for a family reunion. they are in the lobby, being loud, talking ghetto. I ask them politely to keep the noise down, and one says "Y'all better listen to the white boy."

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
tell me if this is racist. I work in the hotel biz, and it is midnight here. well, we have a large group of black people staying here for a family reunion. they are in the lobby, being loud, talking ghetto. I ask them politely to keep the noise down, and one says "Y'all better listen to the white boy."

most likely, do you think that most black people would just shrug and act as if nothing happened if a group of white people standing outside has someone say " yall better listen to the black boy "....

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi, Yesterday at 11:55 PM
it is midnight here.

Was it midnightish when you posted this?

more or less.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
more or less.

Originally posted by Creshosk
You're in my timezone.