Hulk v.s Maxima

Started by Rao Kal El9 pages
Originally posted by Galan007
Rao may have bumped the thread to bait carv, but the thread itself isn't a troll thread. 😉

It was a good thread in anycase and worth revisiting with the current Maxima trend.

Baiting Carver was just an added bonus.

Terrible.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
W8, wut?

She broke Hulk free from chains he couldn't get out of.

Originally posted by carver9
She broke Hulk free from chains he couldn't get out of.

From Hephaestus' chains?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
His healing factor was 7% of it's normal level. If that's not indicative of something other than simply pummeling someone into submission I don't know what is.

Didn't actually address this

He overloaded the amount of damage his healing factor could fix at the time given the level of brain damage he had. Wolverine's healing factor wasn't reduced it just had a larger task to correct

👆 and I guess the view from some is that Zeus overloaded the amount of damage Hulk's HF could fix.

Again, no low showing - Zeus is a skyfather, after all.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
W8, wut?
I skipped a page since it wasn't relevant but here

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
👆 and I guess the view from some is that Zeus overloaded the amount of damage Hulk's HF could fix.

Again, no low showing - Zeus is a skyfather, after all.

The difference here is the Zeus knew how long it would take for Hulk to recover even though Hulk's powers include nigh-instantaneous healing. The only way he can know when he'd heal is if he's the one that's retarding it.

EDIT* Zom-strange punched a large hole through his torso but it was healed within a couple panels

Originally posted by psycho gundam
The difference here is the Zeus knew how long it would take for Hulk to recover even though Hulk's powers include nigh-instantaneous healing. The only way he can know when he'd heal is if he's the one that's retarding it.

EDIT* Zom-strange punched a large hole through his torso but it was healed within a couple panels

I always read it as Zeus having faith in his own ability to mash the Hulk up. I've never for example seen Hulk puke his guts up like that after anyone punched him.

Hulk went up there to get a miracle to help his family so he's aware Zeus has magical powers that can do things nobody else he knows can do. I'm in no way denying Zeus beat the piss out of him, it's just that there is context being ignored a lot more

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Hulk went up there to get a miracle to help his family so he's aware Zeus has magical powers that can do things nobody else he knows can do.

Like, overload Hulk's HF so badly with damage, it would be months before he could recover?

That's the thing, we're just going around in circles. As you say, you don't have any concrete proof to say with certainty - and to be honest, neither do I.

All I have going for me, is that I have never seen Zeus have a anti-HF spell, nor have I seen Hulk's HF being 'switched off' (or dampened for months).

But then there IS the Prometheus torture that was detailed in the same comic this all happened in, a torture method that is based around an indefinite cycle of torture via controlled healing and birds being able to peck through your skin to get at those ever-growing organs. Hulk's durability and healing factor would have to have been heavily modified for those things to be able to happen as desired.

Originally posted by ODG

Zom Strange literally blew gaping holes through World War Hulk and he'd heal them in the space of panels, from World War Hulk #4:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Powers/WWHHealingFactor03WWH3.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Powers/WWHHealingFactor04.jpg

Yeah, I don't think Hulk's HF was mucked with at all during the actual brawl. I believe Zeus just legitimately beat the shit out of him, and his HF couldn't compensate for the damage fast enough.

The only time I think it could be argued that Hulk's HF *may* have been magically tampered with, is when he was chained and the vultures were devouring him... And the only reason that might be the case is because it was meant to mimic the punishment/torture of Prometheus. Before that? No way. I mean, it was stated that Hulk's rib cage was shattered and his lungs were collapsing -- you don't just spontaneously get better from that.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I always read it as Zeus having faith in his own ability to mash the Hulk up. I've never for example seen Hulk puke his guts up like that after anyone punched him.

This doesn't make sense. What does this have to do with Zeus knowing how long it will take for Hulk to get his healing factor and strength back? If me and you fought and I tapped that ass to the point that I split your eye lid and I told you, "your eye lid will not heal until 8 months from now" and that crap end up being true...come on man. Don't be in denial.

Btw, can someone post the scan of Zeus saying exactly how long it would take for Hulk to heal? Don't remember ever seeing that.

Hopefully you're not referring to this:

...Because that certainly isn't the implication.

This theory is nice and all but I agree with those that said that the beating was so bad that it taxed hulk's hf, is not a bad a showing because it was done by Zeus. But yeah, he just plain and simple beat the crap out of Hulk.

Originally posted by Galan007
Btw, can someone post the scan of Zeus saying exactly how long it would take for Hulk to heal? Don't remember ever seeing that.

Hopefully you're not referring to this:

...Because that certainly isn't the implication.

That is clear as night and day

The scan makes it clear that Hulk will not forget Zeus' beating for "long months". Certainly doesn't give us any specifics pertaining to his HF 'returning' or w/e.

...But again, I don't know if that is the comment they're referring to.

That IS the comment they are referring to.

Originally posted by carver9
This doesn't make sense. What does this have to do with Zeus knowing how long it will take for Hulk to get his healing factor and strength back? If me and you fought and I tapped that ass to the point that I split your eye lid and I told you, "your eye lid will not heal until 8 months from now" and that crap end up being true...come on man. Don't be in denial.

Erm...yeah, there you go, Galan.

@carver: So if I broke your arm, and said, yeah, carver, that arm is going to be broken for a while, it'll be a long few months before you forget how angry I got....how is that me being in denial?
http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/topic.cfm?topic=a00584

There you go. I know how long broken forearm bones take to heal. 'Magically', a few months later, it heals. Guess I'm basically Zeus.

Edit: that site says 'Bones have a remarkable capacity to heal. Forearm bones typically take 3 to 6 months to fully heal'. So...yeah. DS is Zeus level.

Well that's a pretty ridiculous exaggeration, then. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
Btw, can someone post the scan of Zeus saying exactly how long it would take for Hulk to heal? Don't remember ever seeing that.

Hopefully you're not referring to this:

...Because that certainly isn't the implication.

Why not? If Zeus beat me up I'd think I'd never forget his wrath. Months seems kinda specific to me.

Hulk wasn't lying in bed till he was "back", he was fighting in the next issue he appeared just reduced in overall power