Superman Prime vs Sodam Yat (ion)

Started by Bransolute18 pages

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Im saying Odin is the strongest SF in marvel
The top skyfather is a hair below abstract
Odin is more then a hair below abstract. ALot more
Ergo go Odin is not the top skyfather
I don't know about you, but high-end usually means almost the top of the class...
Which would make him a little more than a hair below Abstract.

Also, the class completely fails if we don't follow Odin being the top...

And yours doesn't even make sense.

Originally posted by Bransolute
In Marvel, Odin is the highest.
If Odin is the highest Skyfather in Marvel, and we use the term on KMC, then by all rights, Odin=limits.

Same as anyone around Surfer level, is herald level (since Surfer hasn't exactly been the most powerful at all times).

Just because we don't have a class for above Skyfather (except, 'above Skyfather'😉, doesn't mean they are abstract.

Also, according to you, Odin is high-end Skyfather, however, Odin is nowhere near any abstracts, so how does that logic even work?

The class for above skyfather and below Abstract has been used in comics for many years. They are usually classified as Entities. Entity lvl. which i have used many times here.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
There are lower abstracts. like Love and hate. And even lower concepts. That odin could simply erase within his wrealm.
Love and Hate really don't have any feats to justify what you just said.

Also, who are these Abstracts that Odin could erase?

Plus, what Odin does within, or out of his realm makes no difference. He's not Mephisto.
His power is always steady, except when he amps himself.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The class for above skyfather and below Abstract has been used in comics for many years. They are usually classified as Entities. Entity lvl. which i have used many times here.

o rly?

Then i drop my arguement and adopt entity into my classification system

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The class for above skyfather and below Abstract has been used in comics for many years. They are usually classified as Entities. Entity lvl. which i have used many times here.
Which makes them a whole level difference in power.

Which, negates what Gecko says.

And I've never heard "Entities" being used...

Originally posted by Bransolute
Love and Hate really don't have any feats to justify what you just said.

Also, who are these Abstracts that Odin could erase?

Plus, what Odin does within, or out of his realm makes no difference. He's not Mephisto.
His power is always steady, except when he amps himself.


An abstract is a representation of something. Wasn't mangog that very definition of an abstract. Who created him? Odin correct? Didn't odin erase him as well?

😛 posted before you

Originally posted by Bransolute

And I've never heard "Entities" being used...

And I have also never heard it used

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
An abstract is a representation of something. Wasn't mangog that very definition of an abstract. Who created him? Odin correct? Didn't odin erase him as well?

He was a lesser abstract.

Originally posted by Bransolute
Which makes them a whole level difference in power.

Which, negates what Gecko says.

And I've never heard "Entities" being used...

I've stated many times that Entity lvl thing. I've suggested. No one ever listened. But There are many beings in comics described as such and such entinty. the Unimaginable Entity. For example. above skyfather, below full blown abstract.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
An abstract is a representation of something. Wasn't mangog that very definition of an abstract. Who created him? Odin correct? Didn't odin erase him as well?
Umm... what. the. fuck?
Umm...
Mangog was fueled by Hate. We have an Abstract for Hate already... in fact, her name is 'Hate'.

Originally posted by Bransolute
Umm... what. the. f[b]uck?
Umm...
Mangog was fueled by Hate. We have an Abstract for Hate already... in fact, her name is 'Hate'. [/B]

"His" name is Hate

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
"His" name is Hate
Don't care.

Originally posted by Bransolute
Umm... what. the. f[b]uck?
Umm...
Mangog was fueled by Hate. We have an Abstract for Hate already... in fact, her name is 'Hate'. [/B]

What was mangog? he was the manifestation of hate of entire people. Thus a lessor abstract. to which odin merged/formed.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What was mangog? he was the manifestation of hate of entire people. Thus a lessor abstract. to which odin merged/formed.

By abstract everybody knows you mean Chaos/ order/ eternity etc

Mangog was pretty ,much the only lesser abstract created and thus should have his own classification

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
By abstract everybody knows you mean Chaos/ order/ eternity etc

Mangog was pretty ,much the only lesser abstract created and thus should have his own classification


nah. Walker was a lessor abstract. The black racer is a lessor abstract. The black flash is a lessor abstract. Stayne, Takion, are lessor abstracts. Or entities. depending on your view. Hell, Wanda even made herself one. That Mutant thingy. The collective.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What was mangog? he was the manifestation of hate of entire people. Thus a lessor abstract. to which odin merged/formed.
He was a being made up of billions of souls.

Hardly equals an Abstract, or even close.

Surfer represents Galactus's rage (in Annhilation)! zOMG ABSTRacts!!

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Walker was a lessor abstract.

Walker was a more powerful Death then Death herself

That screams Greater abstract to me

Originally posted by Bransolute
He was a being made up of billions of souls.

Hardly equals an Abstract, or even close.

Surfer represents Galactus's rage! zOMG ABSTRacts!!

sufer is a being. and galactus's rage is hardly abstract worthy. now if surfer were the avatar of RAGE itself. Then that would be something. And I think walker was an abstract being. being made up of billions of souls is serious business. That is beyond skyfather. he at the very least would be entity lvl.

wasnt mangog the HATE of billions of people and not billions of people in hiself (like the stranger)

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
sufer is a being. and galactus's rage is hardly abstract worthy. now if surfer were the avatar of RAGE itself. Then that would be something. And I think walker was an abstract being. being made up of billions of souls is serious business. That is beyond skyfather. he at the very least would be entity lvl.
You know, putting your twisted spin on things, almost everyone is a lessor abstract.

Plus, Galactus sure as tootin'>>>the hate from a billion(s) beings.

I also don't know if you're still talking about Mangog...

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
wasnt mangog the HATE of billions of people and not billions of people in hiself (like the stranger)
He represents an entire extinct race.
He gets his power from the hate of those beings.