Flash with A GL ring vs. Surfer With Thor's Hammer

Both have two weeks time to learn how to use thier weapon.

How would this fight go?

Flash will be using the ring and his speed force powers, and surfer will be worthy of lifting the hammer.

It would go the same way as Flash vs. Surfer.

Cause the Flash probably wouldn't be able to do much with the ring, and Surfer would never be considered worthy to lift the hammer.

based on his abilities, Flash should certainly win this....with his speed, he can learn in one minute a lifetime's training with the ring.

Originally posted by Soljer
Surfer would never be considered worthy to lift the hammer.

What would be the difference between Surfer with or without the hammer?

Flash would win, only because of his speed

Surfer with Thor's hammer would win, imo.

He already has the superior firepower needed to take down GL Flash. Surfer alone w/o Mjolnir can defend against Flash's super speed. Besides, I don't think Flash would make a very adept GL as far as willpower goes... Surfer w/Mjolnir wins 7.5/10 imo

Originally posted by Evolve
Surfer with Thor's hammer would win, imo.

He already has the superior firepower needed to take down GL Flash. Surfer alone w/o Mjolnir can defend against Flash's super speed. Besides, I don't think Flash would make a very adept GL as far as willpower goes... Surfer w/Mjolnir wins 7.5/10 imo

So fighting thru death, out running the black flash, pushing beyond the SF to come back, leeching a world of speed to beat teleportation dont' give one will power?

Surfer cannot deal with Flash's speed....Surfer can travel at light speeds but he doesn't fight at lightspeeds

Originally posted by Bransolute
Wait... it might be possible that Surfer could lift it...

Even if hes not were assuming he can for the purposes of this thread.

Surfer wins

Originally posted by Priest
I agree, Surfer is one of the most noble heros in Marvel, and Odin does take a liking to him.

Nobility doesn't mean much. You have to have a warriors spirit, something that the Surfer most certainly lacks.

Originally posted by Soljer
Nobility doesn't mean much. You have to have a warriors spirit, something that the Surfer most certainly lacks.

I don't think he lacks it. I also don't think he is really a pacifist. He is extremely arrogant. He kills more easily than most Marvel heroes. He is prepared to put people to death in his recent mini where he dies he kills millions to stop a war. If anyone acts like a god and puts himself above mortals in comics it's the Surfer. It's also why I can't stand him.

Originally posted by Dexter_Morgan
I don't think he lacks it. I also don't think he is really a pacifist. He is extremely arrogant. He kills more easily than most Marvel heroes. He is prepared to put people to death in his recent mini where he dies he kills millions to stop a war. If anyone acts like a god and puts himself above mortals in comics it's the Surfer. It's also why I can't stand him.

Flash uses prep to

harvest Darkseids work on The ALE [half a second ring hacks speedforce to speed data capture]

crack the ale Ring and Flash travell through dimensions to the afterlife bathe in the source etcetera etcetera [week one]

Week two Ring uploads the ALE into Flash imprinting it into his Genetic code. and practice its use in combat situations

Flash and Ring spend the last two days honing impenetrable shields against high levell threats like Darkseids OE Beams etc [this will help against Surfer

FIGHT STARTS
Flash thinks oblivion within a pecosecond

a week later Flash visits Doctor Midnite... something about a vague mentall image of a surfer dude brandishing a hammer meaning to entrap Flash within a pocket dimension

Doc Cross prescribes a vial of Testesterone to be taken every half hour and a weekly subscription to superchix haermm2

I dont see what advantages Mjolnir brings to Surfers powerset. He already has most of the abilities that Mjolnir would give him. Except maybe control of the weather, but in a fight like this weather won't be much of a factor.

Most of the things Mjolnir lets you do, the surfer is already capable of.

Only thing the hammer really brings to the battle for Surfer which he doesn't have already is the odin force.

I dont know Wizard magazine is an athority on comics but they said Surfer is FASTER then the Flash

Originally posted by nimbus006
I dont see what advantages Mjolnir brings to Surfers powerset. He already has most of the abilities that Mjolnir would give him. Except maybe control of the weather, but in a fight like this weather won't be much of a factor.