Do not conflate sexual orientation with sex.
Sex takes place between the legs, but sexual orientation, i.e. an enduring emotional, physical, psychological attraction to members of a particular sex; takes place between the ears.
Like secondary sexual characteristics, sexual orientation is an immutable characteristic that is in place before birth, and discovered during adolescence.
Originally posted by Robtard
Every "being gay is a choice" ranting asshat in here.
I didn't read all of the posts....too much to read.
Yeah...it is both. It is both a choice and you are born with it. It can be one or the other as well...there is not generalization that fits all.
In other words, not all are born gay...not all "turn gay" they were to begin with. In fact, I bet there are some that think they are gay who are not gay...they are just confused about their sexuality..I would say the same for some straight people....it is really really too variable to make a blanket statement.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I didn't read all of the posts....too much to read.Yeah...it is both. It is both a choice and you are born with it. It can be one or the other as well...there is not generalization that fits all.
In other words, not all are born gay...not all "turn gay" they were to begin with. In fact, I bet there are some that think they are gay who are not gay...they are just confused about their sexuality..I would say the same for some straight people....it is really really too variable to make a blanket statement.
Of cource there are the rare exceptions of people, but I disagree. As A general rule, I think people can/do choose who they have sex with, but people don't choose who they want (attracted to) to have sex with.
Originally posted by Robtard
Of cource there are the rare exceptions of people, but I disagree. As A general rule, I think people can/do choose who they have sex with, but people don't choose who they want (attracted to) to have sex with.
I thought that Adam Poe, who is I think is a great guy, was saying that regardless, everyone is either born gay or straight.
I was disagreeing and saying that it varies from person to person.
Generally, though, I would say at the very least, a slim majority of homosexuals are born homosexuals...at the very least.
So yeah, I agree with your statement.
I think gay and straight are artificial constructs.
My interest would be to see what affect there is of living in a society that views sexuality as a 0/1 type dualistic entity versus living in one that supposes that sexual behaviour exists on a continuum.
My personal views are a little less easy to articulate, but I'd say even a continuum is not really expressive enough. I'd say that each individual has a "schema" containing important qualities of the individuals they are attracted to... but now I'm rambling.
People are attracted to things 🙂
Originally posted by dadudemon
I thought that Adam Poe, who is I think is a great guy, was saying that regardless, everyone is either born gay or straight.I was disagreeing and saying that it varies from person to person.
Generally, though, I would say at the very least, a slim majority of homosexuals are born homosexuals...at the very least.
So yeah, I agree with your statement.
I'm saying that the vast majority of homosexuals, were born homosexual, ie born with the predisposition to be attracted to members of the same sex.
There's a good chance there are certain "gays" out there who were 'turned" gay by life events, especially during childhood and vice-versa with "straights", but I don't think that is a considerable percentage.
I don't think you choose physical & emotional attractions to people. I like women with bigger asses, I prefer brunettes over blondes and green eyes totally do it for me... I didn't choose these attractions, they just are.
Originally posted by inimalist
I think gay and straight are artificial constructs.My interest would be to see what affect there is of living in a society that views sexuality as a 0/1 type dualistic entity versus living in one that supposes that sexual behaviour exists on a continuum.
My personal views are a little less easy to articulate, but I'd say even a continuum is not really expressive enough. I'd say that each individual has a "schema" containing important qualities of the individuals they are attracted to... but now I'm rambling.People are attracted to things 🙂
yeah...WTF does that shit mean? Explain that to the little man.
Originally posted by Kevy2007
To the anti Italy spoofers in the first page. You are a bunch of stupid Yank/brit c unts. Y'know that.I see you didn't say anything about Inter Milan or the Vatican too. Savage asshats
I take it you have that generic club kid look about you then.
Oh, and it's pretty gay to use words like Spoofers and Yanks.
Originally posted by Kevy2007
At least I go to nite clubs while u stay here on the computer 24/7 in your parents basement. Sad wanker
I don't go to nightclubs, because I'm 34 and I did that shit 10-15 years ago, it got old... so blow your little whistle while twirling your glow in the dark bracelets around, clubber-boy. *play generic club beats*
Originally posted by dadudemon
yeah...WTF does that shit mean? Explain that to the little man.
lol
first off, i messed up the wording. Dualistic should be "bi-polar", which im sure explains everything 😉
A bi-polar system is one where things can either be on or off. Binary code is bi-polar, somethins is either a 1 or a 0. The even more technical term, I believe, is "Boolean". So, with regards to the topic, I am saying that even conceptualizing sexuality as a 0/1 type system, where people are either this or that, may affect the way that people develop sexually. Basically, as we grow up, we feel that it is important to fall into one of the two categories, and thus, we do.
The second part refers to the idea, which as far as I know was first put forward by Kinsey, that sexuality, with regards to hetero or homosexuality, is a continuum. This means that there are infinite places along an axis, with 100% hetero at one end and 100% homo at the other, where people can fall. A conceptualization of sexuality in this way might influence people to not have such a static preconcieved notion of what their sexuality is; this ambiguity being determined by their culture.
Of course this is entirely suppositional. I have seen no evidence at all that would really support my thoughts. The existance of "bi-sexuality" somewhat affects my criticism of modern society as "boolean" with regard to sexuality. I am also supposing that people are naturally not either homo or hetero. Blah, I don't know how much to write, since I'm not sure how much you are interested in my personal sexual philosophy.
Haha, my biggest problem with this whole conversation is that, were you to ask me about my sexuality, there are many more important characteristics I could give you rather than whether I want my partner to have a penis or a vagina. That seems like such an irrelevant distinction, although it is the most important consideration when determining your own sexuality...
Originally posted by Robtard
I don't go to nightclubs, because I'm 34 and I did that shit 10-15 years ago, it got old... so blow your little whistle while twirling your glow in the dark bracelets around, clubber-boy. *play generic club beats*
boy....you really got him....
So I guess that means that you are in your mom's basement right now with no plans for the weekend?