Sephiroth vs Link with a twist

Started by Violent2Dope6 pages
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Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Good job ignoring any points I've made, as well, as everyone else agreeing with me. When AC Sephiroth isn't even trying he slashes with enough force to cause where he slashes to burst into flames, no substance can stop his sword. Ganon's soft flesh would be even easier for Sephiroth to cut through.

I called you a fanboy because you never acknowledge non LoZ characters being stronger than LoZ characters.

Since when fanboy? I acknowledged you're single actual point of Seph killing Link before fight started(which is fvckin ridiculous). I will get to the smart debaters points after this, don't worry. Ganon's soft flesh? The same soft flesh that while near death survived his castle collapsing on him, and took a fire blast from a dragon, while having his fortress fall on him? Seph on the other hand gets cut by swords when they don't even have any materia by people who are normal humans(Cloud at Nibelheim).

I have admitted Ganon would lose btw, and I don't even like Link. He's a f@ggot.

ESB -1138 Sonic Speed
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Cloud is a f@ggot.

Fixed

Violent2Dope Restricted

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Invulnerable? Light based attacks seem more then able to injure Ganondorf (Light/Silver Arrows, Master Sword, Four Swords, and so on and so forth). We have seen the Silver Arrows kill Ganon twice now (NES and LttP) and the Master Sword kill Ganondorf (TP; though the fate of Ganondorf is vague). If I recall correctly Pale Horse and Heartless Angel are both Light based attacks used by Sephiroth
Ganonj in Four Swords didn't even have the Triforce of Power just so you know, and was the first Ganon. Light Arrows and Silver Arrows are pretty much the same thing. I still say Classic Ganon is weaker, and in TP, Ganon didn't die. It is literally only those two weapons which can kill Ganon. They are not the only light weapons in Zelda, and neither of them can kill him now.

SHM Senior Member

Why are we talking about Ganon?

Anyway, ignoring all Seph's god-powers he is still much faster than Link. Speedblitz FTW.

ESB -1138 Sonic Speed

Okay last sentence through me off:

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
They are not the only light weapons in Zelda, and neither of them can kill him now.

But everyelse I can debate against:

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Ganon in Four Swords didn't even have the Triforce of Power just so you know, and was the first Ganon.

According the grand creator, Myamoto, Ganondorf in OoT was.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Light Arrows and Silver Arrows are pretty much the same thing. I still say Classic Ganon is weaker, and in TP, Ganon didn't die.

Still no evidence to back up the claims other then the fact that the NES and SNES was more limited to what it could do then the GC or Wii. And again TP Ganondorf's fate remained vague although it strongly implies that he dies. Pupils fade, breathing stops, and we see Zant's neck snaps to (maybe) show that the force that kept Zant alive was killed.

Violent2Dope Restricted

Originally posted by ESB -1138
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That is also true. Both are losers who win because of their jobber auras. To SHM< agreed, we shouldn't talk about Ganon. Also, faster does not equal victory. Nayru's Love can be done to give Link time to recuperate, and Link could boost his speed with Pegasus Seeds, drink any of the various potions to increase physical strength(Tho TP Link is still stronger than Seph), and if he does die, he has fairies and plenty of bottles to keep them in.

ESB -1138 Sonic Speed
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
That is also true. Both are losers who win because of their jobber auras.

I was referring to the fact Cloud had a chance to get Tifa, Aerith, and Yuffie at once but instead all he dreamt about was finding Sephiroth. Link you know at least gets some from Zelda.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
To SHM< agreed, we shouldn't talk about Ganon. Also, faster does not equal victory. Nayru's Love can be done to give Link time to recuperate, and Link could boost his speed with Pegasus Seeds, drink any of the various potions to increase physical strength(Tho TP Link is still stronger than Seph), and if he does die, he has fairies and plenty of bottles to keep them in.

Only like 4. Even then the Pegasus Shoes only allows him to run straight, Sephiroth with every swing of his sword cut off more and more of the Sister Ray (and that was Crisis Core Sephiroth), able to cause the top of the Shin-RA building to crumble just with his mind, and even with Nayru's Love Link would still get thrown back by the force of Sephiroth throws at him.

Not to mention if this is TP Link he fought Ganondorf in a sword fight after taking over Zelda's body, fight Link (and Midna) as Dark Beast Ganon, fighting Midna with the Fused Shadows, and getting blasted by Light Arrows and slashed at with the Master Sword on horseback. Ganondorf went through a lot before the two clashed blades.

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Tingle is a f@ggot.

Fixed better.

Violent2Dope Restricted

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Okay last sentence through me off:

But everyelse I can debate against:

According the grand creator, Myamoto, Ganondorf in OoT was.

Still no evidence to back up the claims other then the fact that the NES and SNES was more limited to what it could do then the GC or Wii. And again TP Ganondorf's fate remained vague although it strongly implies that he dies. Pupils fade, breathing stops, and we see Zant's neck snaps to (maybe) show that the force that kept Zant alive was killed.

1. Then said grand creater contradicted himself. He does it alot.

2. They can die for one. Also, Ganon in OoT ruled all of Hyrule, and was the only one to do so.

3. Zant's neck snapping severed Ganon's link to the physical world, that is all Zant was. Also, if you remember, he was standing and talking, acting normal, with MS in chest, then after that, Ganon did those signs of dying. MS didn't kill him.

ESB -1138 Sonic Speed

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Then said grand creater contradicted himself. He does it alot.

2. They can die for one. Also, Ganon in OoT ruled all of Hyrule, and was the only one to do so.

3. Zant's neck snapping severed Ganon's link to the physical world, that is all Zant was. Also, if you remember, he was standing and talking, acting normal, with MS in chest, then after that, Ganon did those signs of dying. MS didn't kill him.

1.) Show me where it says Ganon from Four Swords Adventure was the first considering throughout the game you hear in the desert area the same story you hear in OoT about Ganondorf's transformation into Ganon.

2.) Ganon had all of Hyrule conquered in the NES and had the Sacred Realm conquered in LttP; the same Sacred Realm that kept Ganon in OoT a prisoner.

3.) We see actual living people living moments after they are stabbed or shot. Zant was already destroyed from the physical world by Midna and Ganondorf was keeping Zant alive not the other way around. Ganondorf had already used Zant to escape the Twilight Realm.

Violent2Dope Restricted

Originally posted by ESB -1138
I was referring to the fact Cloud had a chance to get Tifa, Aerith, and Yuffie at once but instead all he dreamt about was finding Sephiroth. Link you know at least gets some from Zelda.

Only like 4. Even then the Pegasus Shoes only allows him to run straight, Sephiroth with every swing of his sword cut off more and more of the Sister Ray (and that was Crisis Core Sephiroth), able to cause the top of the Shin-RA building to crumble just with his mind, and even with Nayru's Love Link would still get thrown back by the force of Sephiroth throws at him.

Not to mention if this is TP Link he fought Ganondorf in a sword fight after taking over Zelda's body, fight Link (and Midna) as Dark Beast Ganon, fighting Midna with the Fused Shadows, and getting blasted by Light Arrows and slashed at with the Master Sword on horseback. Ganondorf went through a lot before the two clashed blades.

1. Lol, true.

2. I was talking about the Pegasus seeds, which Link eats to run fast in any direction. Also, Seph probably had materia to do the beam slashes. There is no real proof the top of the Shinra building collapsed by his mind. True, he would be sent back by the force of Seph, but this is all Links meshed into one, TP Link is physically strong so much it is ridiculous.

3. ...So NOW you agree with me? Or do you like mentioning the fact that Link could overpower Ganon in that swordlock to piss me off? Meh...anyway, there is no denying that TP Link was indeed the strongest Link physical wise, but was stunted magically.

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Originally posted by ESB -1138
1.) Show me where it says Ganon from Four Swords Adventure was the first considering throughout the game you hear in the desert area the same story you hear in OoT about Ganondorf's transformation into Ganon.

2.) Ganon had all of Hyrule conquered in the NES and had the Sacred Realm conquered in LttP; the same Sacred Realm that kept Ganon in OoT a prisoner.

3.) We see actual living people living moments after they are stabbed or shot. Zant was already destroyed from the physical world by Midna and Ganondorf was keeping Zant alive not the other way around. Ganondorf had already used Zant to escape the Twilight Realm.

1. I'll find it.

2. Tou che. Ganon in TP and WW show superior speed as well, and remember, Classic Ganon is beaten in one on one combat by Link, Ganon in the 3D games was NEVER simply bested by Link without some kinda gay PIS bullshit help.

Csdabest Senior Member

You saw materia when sephiroth used his beam slashes?

shin_gear Restricted

Link gets destroyed in a matter of milliseconds. 😐

Violent2Dope Restricted

Originally posted by shin_gear
Link gets destroyed in a matter of milliseconds. 😐
Too bad Seph isn't that fast. And to Csdabest, Materia doesn't always have to be in your weapon.

fascistcrusader Restricted

That is not a materia he used to slice up the canon, it is simply an ability of Sephiroth's. It is also confirmed that it wasd his mind he destroyed the ShinRa HQ with.

ESB -1138 Sonic Speed
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
2. I was talking about the Pegasus seeds, which Link eats to run fast in any direction. Also, Seph probably had materia to do the beam slashes. There is no real proof the top of the Shinra building collapsed by his mind. True, he would be sent back by the force of Seph, but this is all Links meshed into one, TP Link is physically strong so much it is ridiculous.

He just said all items not all Link fused into one. And whether or not Sephiroth had Materia is debatable but still Sephiroth is much faster then the Pegasus Seeds increase and he also has the power of flight which gives him more of an advantage. Cloud wasn't able to keep track on where Sephiroth was.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
3. ...So NOW you agree with me? Or do you like mentioning the fact that Link could overpower Ganon in that swordlock to piss me off? Meh...anyway, there is no denying that TP Link was indeed the strongest Link physical wise, but was stunted magically.

That was just to piss you off-fafa. Link is powerful but Sephiroth hit Cloud so hard he sent him flying through a cement wall.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. I'll find it.

Looking forward to it.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
2. Tou che. Ganon in TP and WW show superior speed as well, and remember, Classic Ganon is beaten in one on one combat by Link, Ganon in the 3D games was NEVER simply bested by Link without some kinda gay PIS bullshit help.

Ganondorf in TP and WW couldn't teleport either like Ganon did in NES and LttP. Also Ganon (beast form) in OoT moved as slow as Ganon did in NES and LttP but lacked the magical abilities he had in NES and LttP such as teleporting, turning invisible, summoning those fire bats, and shooting orbs of power.

And if I recall correctly Link defeated Ganondorf in OoT all by his loathsome self. Heck Zelda came in after Ganon was already down and out.

shin_gear Restricted

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Too bad Seph isn't that fast. And to Csdabest, Materia doesn't always have to be in your weapon.
He went pretty much at the speed of sound in when he flew in the air and charged Genesis. Link is ultimately screwed nonetheless.

Violent2Dope Restricted

Originally posted by ESB -1138
He just said all items not all Link fused into one. And whether or not Sephiroth had Materia is debatable but still Sephiroth is much faster then the Pegasus Seeds increase and he also has the power of flight which gives him more of an advantage. Cloud wasn't able to keep track on where Sephiroth was.

That was just to piss you off-fafa. Link is powerful but Sephiroth hit Cloud so hard he sent him flying through a cement wall.

Looking forward to it.

Ganondorf in TP and WW couldn't teleport either like Ganon did in NES and LttP. Also Ganon (beast form) in OoT moved as slow as Ganon did in NES and LttP but lacked the magical abilities he had in NES and LttP such as teleporting, turning invisible, summoning those fire bats, and shooting orbs of power.

And if I recall correctly Link defeated Ganondorf in OoT all by his loathsome self. Heck Zelda came in after Ganon was already down and out.

1. True, but it would help. Link is like the Medieval Batman. He can beat anyone in the right situation. batdur

2. Link tossed a 10(at least) ton Goron(He was at least 20 feet tall, made of stone, and had steel) armor like a rag doll.

3. I'll find it...when I get around to it...lol

4. Ganon in TP could turn intangible for one, and could possess people in that form, and both WW and TP were faster. Ganon's base(human) form actually impresses me more than his beast form to be honest.

5. Nope, first fight with Ganondorf, he was clearly not giving his all to Link. Then when he went beast, he had to be weakened for Zelda to hold Ganon down with her magic, and she supercharged the MS, giving Link the power to weaken him some more, then all the Sages combined their powers to seal him.

shin_gear Restricted

I like how after the first few posts this became a discussion about Sephiroth and Ganon.

Anyway, Link ftl. This has been made like...three times.