Originally posted by Creshosk
How many serial killers have killed again after being executed? 0%
How many have after being locked up? at least one. and mathmatically speaking 1 is an infinite times greater than 0.Life imprisonment is not as effective as death.
lol Yes lets all grasp at straws to make arguments.
Originally posted by Creshosk
It's only hypocritical to the foolishly naive. I thought that my exageration of your veiws demonstrated that?
You don't find killing to stop killing to be hypocritical or ironic?
Originally posted by Creshosk
All murderers are equal? all criminals are equal? AS all crimes are equal?
Never said they were. I said that killing people is funny reaction to people being killed.
Originally posted by Creshosk
The only ones comicallyu hypocritical around here are those claiming the moral high ground by justifying the killers actions indirectly with their woeful ignorance.
I don't claim the moral highground you're the one who seems to be doing that. I just don't think that killing people is a good way to deal with killers no matter how you may try to justify it.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Case in point.
An iron maiden? Mad man!
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaosbecause obviously its as effective. I mean I could bring up other people who have escaped prison to kill again... but I'm still up on you until you can provide me with one person who killed from beyond the grave.
Usually imprisonment is effective in preventing them from killing again.
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosYEs, because the soriety house down in florida was a prison full of criminals... I wonder what crime that 12 year old commited? obviously she was in prison and a criminal. Because who cares about her right?
And if they do kill while in prison what do you care just gets rid of another criminal.
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosUh... you've never studied serial killer cases have you?
Nope. But studying them does give us information that can be used to reduce chances of people becoming serial killers later on as well as in catching the ones that are born.
What does a well to do promising lawyer have in common with a masochistic old man with a martyr-complex?
They're both serial killers.
How about we compare Bundy, Fish and Mary Bell? What traits do we have in common between them?
They killed multiple people, other than theat the 10 year old girl has nothing in common with Bundy. And only a commonality of the victims being kids with fish.
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosIt gave more data in the case of Gacy. his brain was 100% healthy with no abnormalities in it.
Killing them sorta removes that data.
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosIt is insane. and its not radical in the slightest.
Or we could do something insane and radical where we don't kill people . . .
And I noticed you dodged giving an alternate solution that's as effective...
Still waiting for the miricle.
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosYou don't find killing to stop killing to be hypocritical or ironic?
yes, because killing a proven guilty serial murderer is no different from murdering an innocent person.
you prob won't use a gun against someone who is attacking your loved one because you don't want to be a hypocrite.
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosWell that does seem to be your specialty mr "Lets see what the serial killer s have in common" as a means of giving value to their lives so as to not justify killing them/
lol Yes lets all grasp at straws to make arguments.
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosNope, because I'm not making an equivocation fallacy. I can see the diferences as I'm not foolishly naive.
You don't find killing to stop killing to be hypocritical or ironic?
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosYEah, equivocation fallacies are quite amusing aren't they?
Never said they were. I said that killing people is funny reaction to people being killed.
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosOh really? Could have fooled me.
I don't claim the moral highground you're the one who seems to be doing that.
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosWell I'm not foolishly naive so I can't see things from your point of veiw.
I just don't think that killing people is a good way to deal with killers no matter how you may try to justify it.
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosWhat was that about straw grasping and hypocricy?
An iron maiden? Mad man!
Originally posted by Master-BorgSo your willing to believe something and say something but are unwilling to actually go through with because you are afraid to?
no, but I am not willing to make the sacrifice of being jailed myself
In that case I hope you hate yourself for allowing all those murders to happen everyday.
Originally posted by Master-Borg
yes, because killing a proven guilty serial murderer is no different from murdering an innocent person.you prob won't use a gun against someone who is attacking your loved one because you don't want to be a hypocrite.
I wouldn't use a gun because I don't happen to have one.
If I did I probably would use it. That doesn't make it less hypocritical though.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Well that does seem to be your specialty mr "Lets see what the serial killer s have in common" as a means of giving value to their lives so as to not justify killing them/Nope, because I'm not making an equivocation fallacy. I can see the diferences as I'm not foolishly naive.
YEah, equivocation fallacies are quite amusing aren't they?
Oh really? Could have fooled me.
Well I'm not foolishly naive so I can't see things from your point of veiw.
Oh oh, I love this style let me counter.
Strawman 🙂
Originally posted by Creshosk
What was that about straw grasping and hypocricy?
Aren't you the one that likes to talk about reading comprehension?
Originally posted by Master-BorgI'm willing to let myself get beat the crap out of because I'm a pacifist and don't like to hurt people unless they are trying to hurt people other than myself.
I am not willing to be jailed permanently to save innocent lives, I'm quite selfish in that regard.
I've been put in the hospital because of this yet people are wanting to try and call me a hypocrite.
Originally posted by Newjaki never called you a hypocrite...you're just too nice.
I'm willing to let myself get beat the crap out of because I'm a pacifist and don't like to hurt people unless they are trying to hurt people other than myself.I've been put in the hospital because of this yet people are wanting to try and call me a hypocrite.
Originally posted by NewjakSure, pull the other one. I might believe it the second time you try.
First of all I never said anything about you being a psychopathAnd I never claimed the moral highground.
Originally posted by NewjakOh, I guess not, still don't believe your denials
And I never pointed a finger oddly enough.
Originally posted by NewjakLike not judign another person's beliefs? Oh yeah.. not.
Although I will say this if you want to talk about being a hypocrite. I live by what I believe every day
Originally posted by NewjakThat'd be you still.
I do not take the life of another human being but as you so sarcastically have shown is that you don't go around eliminating those people you have deemed unworthy to live. So in reality who is a hypocrite.
Originally posted by NewjakYou know what the fantastic thing about your argument is? It falls short based on assumptions.
Those who do what they believe in or those who do not.
Originally posted by NewjakSee? Probably not. alot of people refuse to see even when the obvious is pointed out to them.
But let's get to the beef of this and what is your subjective nature.
Originally posted by Newjakborderline equivocation based off of another assumption...
You claim my being naive because I chose not to take life whether it be a someone who hasn't committed a crime or those who have.
Originally posted by NewjakYeah.. that's exactly my motivation shall we go back to the killing anyone who breaks the law scenerio again?
You have already deemed such a person inferior and undeserving of living and that you by all reason have all the right to take their life.
Originally posted by NewjakBecause being in a position to do something is exactly the same as not being in a position to. What a wonderful non-equivocation you have going for you...
So let's really look at this./[quote] Yeah I'm curious to see how you'll spin this.[QUOTE=9730163]Originally posted by Newjak
As I have already pointed out by your own logic every time you do not kill someone you know is a murderer then you yourself are in fact responsible for any and all lives they could take in the future once again going by what you say.
Originally posted by NewjakGee something about not being in a position to and how it relates to the times that superheros can kill their villians?
So then why is it you don't go and kill them?
Just a thought...
Originally posted by NewjakWhy is it the victims are allowed to die on yours?
Why is it that these inferior people are allowed to live on your watch?
Originally posted by Newjak"damn that pesky common sense and logic. So annoying I think I'll discard it."
These are questions I would like to have answered from you because you can say all this tough stuff about I would kill someone who killed someone yet you haven't and there has to be a reason why you don't.
Originally posted by NewjakSomehting about being in a position to do so. Dunno.. common sense should have told you that one.
So let's hear it. You want to criticize me fine I understand that but when you live your life exactly as I live it everyday[/b[]/quote] I'll answer as soon as that becomes true.[QUOTE=9730163]Originally posted by Newjak
[B]not killing those who you deem to be unworthy of life but say you would do something what is the reason you don't do what you say?
Originally posted by NewjakYeah whay a hypocrite right? HE should just judge others beleifs and then get offended when ours are judged right Newjak?
So your willing to believe something and say something but are unwilling to actually go through with because you are afraid to?
Originally posted by NewjakYeah because lord knows that you hate yourself for judging other people's beliefs.
In that case I hope you hate yourself for allowing all those murders to happen everyday.